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Communism and human nature (Bolshie Mod sez, Arise ye kittens of the earth!)
Bolshie Mod Manifesto ^
Posted on 04/05/2005 10:50:57 AM PDT by Sammy sam
Many argue that communism will never be possible because of "human nature". The essence of this false argument is the belief that a communist society would consist of an all-powerful central government that would tell everybody what to do--and would therefore undermine the creative initiative of individuals and the search for happiness.
This argument is based on two false assumptions:
(1) It assumes that a communist society will look like the former Soviet Union, or the current China, North Korea, etc (ie: corrupt police states with a feudal-style ruling class) (2) It assumes that people will only work in order to own bigger and bigger piles of commodities.
The truth is that: (1) There will be no government in communist society--people will do what they want without being pushed around by anyone. The development of a corrupt police state or a new ruling class will be prevented by the struggles of the masses who will be armed with the weapon of transparency. (2) In a world of abundance for all no one will have to struggle (or even work) for the necessities of life (which will be a birthright--just like the air we all breathe). People will work on projects of their own choosing because (a) they find the work fun and interesting; (b) they enjoy the work relationships with talented and dedicated co-workers; (c) they want to make the world a better place; or (d) they want social status and recognition. A world of abundance for all where work is fun (and voluntary) will be made possible by a much higher productivity of human labor.
An example of communist work relationships is provided by the Linux computer operating system--the core of which was created by many thousands of people--all working for free. A 2nd example is the "work" involved when people post to this forum. No one gets paid to post here--but people do so--because it is an expression of their principles and convictions.
Who is in control? Under capitalism (and previous economic systems such as feudalism and slavery) only a small fraction of the population has control over their conditions of work--and the life of society as a whole. Only under genuine communism will the masses control their conditions of work--and the culture, economy and politics of society.
TOPICS: Philosophy
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To: dighton
Wow. Been a while since I looked at THAT post... LOL.
101
posted on
04/05/2005 1:01:30 PM PDT
by
b4its2late
(Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot.)
To: Mrs.Nooseman
OK. I thought you were talking about the "dead troll" thread.
102
posted on
04/05/2005 1:05:24 PM PDT
by
Arrowhead1952
(TV News and the MSM - - - ROTFLMAO)
To: Sammy sam
Drat, missed the ZOT again! I have to pay better attn next time! The Freeper Arty BN will get the next one. Freeper Inf. BN can fix bayonets to get them!
103
posted on
04/05/2005 1:07:24 PM PDT
by
TMSuchman
(2nd Generation U.S. MARINE and PROUD OF IT!)
To: Sammy sam
Humans are corruptable. Ergo, never put a human in a position of authority over another human. Ever. It is just a really bad idea from the get go...
Especially dumsh*ts like you.
104
posted on
04/05/2005 1:07:35 PM PDT
by
Dead Corpse
(Sooner or later, you have to stand your ground. Whether anyone else does or not. - Michael Badnarik)
To: Arrowhead1952
To: The_Victor
You need to go back and retake Logic 101. Not to mention Economics 101.
To: Sammy sam
From www.drugabuse.gov
Q: What are the short-term effects of marijuana use?
A: The short-term effects of marijuana include:
- problems with memory and learning (11);
- distorted perception (sights, sounds, time, touch) (6);
- trouble with thinking and problemsolving (5);
- loss of motor coordination; and
- increased heart rate.
These effects are even greater when other drugs are mixed with the marijuana; and users do not always know what drugs are given to them.
Q: Does marijuana affect school, sports, or other activities?
A: It can. Marijuana affects memory, judgment and perception (11). The drug can make you mess up in school, in sports or clubs, or with your friends. If youre high on marijuana, you are more likely to make stupid mistakes that could embarrass or even hurt you. If you use marijuana a lot, you could start to lose interest in how you look and how youre getting along at school or work.
Athletes could find their performance is off; timing, movements, and coordination are all affected by THC. Also, since marijuana can affect judgment and decisionmaking, its use can lead to risky sexual behavior, resulting in exposure to sexually transmitted diseases like HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.
107
posted on
04/05/2005 1:45:51 PM PDT
by
SolidRedState
(E Pluribus Funk --- (Latin taglines are sooooo cool! Don't ya think?))
To: MeekOneGOP
You could tell just by looking at him that he wasn't going to make it. Troll Nation must be running low on literate kamikazes.
108
posted on
04/05/2005 1:45:58 PM PDT
by
Lady Jag
(I dreamed I surfed all day in my monthly donor wonder bra [https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate])
To: Arrowhead1952
109
posted on
04/05/2005 1:49:06 PM PDT
by
Conspiracy Guy
(Tag line is being held in protective custody.)
To: Lady Jag
110
posted on
04/05/2005 2:07:25 PM PDT
by
MeekOneGOP
(There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
To: MeekOneGOP
There is 1,919 keywords.
A NEW FREEPER WORLD RECORD!
To: Sundog; terjegirl
</font color="ffooff">~*keyword overload PING*~</font>
112
posted on
04/05/2005 3:08:05 PM PDT
by
Skylus
(One shy FReeper who openly admits she cannot word or say things as correctly as she wishes to...)
To: Thunder90
Wow. Dat's a lot! What was the old record?
113
posted on
04/05/2005 3:09:53 PM PDT
by
MeekOneGOP
(There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
To: Sundog; terjegirl
wow...that didn't quite work...so sorry:
~*keyword overload PING*~
114
posted on
04/05/2005 3:10:11 PM PDT
by
Skylus
(One shy FReeper who openly admits she cannot word or say things as correctly as she wishes to...)
To: Sammy sam; dighton; aculeus; general_re; L,TOWM; Constitution Day; hellinahandcart; Poohbah; ...
115
posted on
04/05/2005 3:12:32 PM PDT
by
BlueLancer
(Der Elite Møøsënspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmändø (EMØØK))
To: Sammy sam
Thanks, Sammy. You've obviously never been to a communist country, so I won't bother you with facts. But I have to clue you on a couple of sad illusions: there is no Never-never Land, no Utopia, no Erewhon, and no perfect communist society. And all for the same reason - they were fictional. The difference is that the authors of the first three knew they were fictional. The author of the fourth didn't.
To: Sammy sam
What a moron! Now can we get back to the important stuff... has anyone seen my fur?
117
posted on
04/05/2005 3:56:08 PM PDT
by
Shadrak
("Errors of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it." Thomas Jefferson)
To: Thunder90
There is 1,919 keywords.
1,985 now. 2,000 anyone??
-Eric
118
posted on
04/05/2005 3:57:09 PM PDT
by
E Rocc
(WPPFF, 2000 revision.)
To: Sammy sam
"People will work on projects of their own choosing because (a) they find the work fun and interesting; (b) they enjoy the work relationships with talented and dedicated co-workers; (c) they want to make the world a better place; or (d) they want social status and recognition."
Lucky this wasn't posted yesterday, when I was too tired to think. Or maybe that's when I should have read it.
I will point out one (among many) of the absurdities written here. It's nice to have a job that is rewarding both financially and emotionally. However, real life ain't that way. I work to live. Period. Some of us have to do the grunt work. Wish I could sit all day & post threads to FR. Too bad.
As far as "helping the world" -- I sometimes do things as an act of charity for the religious community I live with. A doctor there, for example, might treat a poor person for free, or reduced charge. It is a way of contributing, and we reap spiritual rewards. You might say, all of us living there share a common belief.
However, BECAUSE I DON'T GET PAID, I can only do this occasionally, and on the side. Most of the volunteer work I do, anyway, is not what I'm normally paid & trained to do. Because if I did give of myself that way, even the most pious people there would think me the biggest chump on the planet.
Which, I think, is anyone who believes your post.
119
posted on
04/05/2005 4:06:54 PM PDT
by
MoochPooch
(A righteous person worries about his or her behavior, an extremist about everyone else's.)
To: Sammy sam
. No one gets paid to post here--
YOU'RE NOT GETTING PAID ???
Guppy, there's one born every minute.
I've retired on my earnings from posting here.
Now my FrDividend checks are direct deposited to my
account in Aruba.
AH yes communisim, "It hasn't worked any where else in
the world, but WE can make it work HERE!"
Try and remember THIS little phrase from the soviet union,
"They pretend to pay us, we pretend to work."
And another hint, never NEVER join a shock worker brigade.
120
posted on
04/05/2005 4:16:11 PM PDT
by
tet68
( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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