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Communism and human nature (Bolshie Mod sez, Arise ye kittens of the earth!)
Bolshie Mod Manifesto ^

Posted on 04/05/2005 10:50:57 AM PDT by Sammy sam

Many argue that communism will never be possible because of "human nature". The essence of this false argument is the belief that a communist society would consist of an all-powerful central government that would tell everybody what to do--and would therefore undermine the creative initiative of individuals and the search for happiness.

• This argument is based on two false assumptions:

(1) It assumes that a communist society will look like the former Soviet Union, or the current China, North Korea, etc (ie: corrupt police states with a feudal-style ruling class) (2) It assumes that people will only work in order to own bigger and bigger piles of commodities.

• The truth is that: (1) There will be no government in communist society--people will do what they want without being pushed around by anyone. The development of a corrupt police state or a new ruling class will be prevented by the struggles of the masses who will be armed with the weapon of transparency. (2) In a world of abundance for all no one will have to struggle (or even work) for the necessities of life (which will be a birthright--just like the air we all breathe). People will work on projects of their own choosing because (a) they find the work fun and interesting; (b) they enjoy the work relationships with talented and dedicated co-workers; (c) they want to make the world a better place; or (d) they want social status and recognition. A world of abundance for all where work is fun (and voluntary) will be made possible by a much higher productivity of human labor.

• An example of communist work relationships is provided by the Linux computer operating system--the core of which was created by many thousands of people--all working for free. A 2nd example is the "work" involved when people post to this forum. No one gets paid to post here--but people do so--because it is an expression of their principles and convictions.

• Who is in control? Under capitalism (and previous economic systems such as feudalism and slavery) only a small fraction of the population has control over their conditions of work--and the life of society as a whole. Only under genuine communism will the masses control their conditions of work--and the culture, economy and politics of society.


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To: dighton

Wow. Been a while since I looked at THAT post... LOL.


101 posted on 04/05/2005 1:01:30 PM PDT by b4its2late (Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot.)
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To: Mrs.Nooseman

OK. I thought you were talking about the "dead troll" thread.


102 posted on 04/05/2005 1:05:24 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (TV News and the MSM - - - ROTFLMAO)
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To: Sammy sam
Drat, missed the ZOT again! I have to pay better attn next time! The Freeper Arty BN will get the next one. Freeper Inf. BN can fix bayonets to get them!
103 posted on 04/05/2005 1:07:24 PM PDT by TMSuchman (2nd Generation U.S. MARINE and PROUD OF IT!)
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To: Sammy sam
Humans are corruptable. Ergo, never put a human in a position of authority over another human. Ever. It is just a really bad idea from the get go...

Especially dumsh*ts like you.

104 posted on 04/05/2005 1:07:35 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Sooner or later, you have to stand your ground. Whether anyone else does or not. - Michael Badnarik)
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To: Arrowhead1952

LOL.

It's quite alright!


105 posted on 04/05/2005 1:07:52 PM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman
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To: The_Victor
You need to go back and retake Logic 101.

Not to mention Economics 101.

106 posted on 04/05/2005 1:17:13 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: Sammy sam
JohnonBreak.jpg (112082 bytes)

From www.drugabuse.gov

Q: What are the short-term effects of marijuana use?

A: The short-term effects of marijuana include:

These effects are even greater when other drugs are mixed with the marijuana; and users do not always know what drugs are given to them.


Q: Does marijuana affect school, sports, or other activities?

A: It can. Marijuana affects memory, judgment and perception (11). The drug can make you mess up in school, in sports or clubs, or with your friends. If you’re high on marijuana, you are more likely to make stupid mistakes that could embarrass or even hurt you. If you use marijuana a lot, you could start to lose interest in how you look and how you’re getting along at school or work.

Athletes could find their performance is off; timing, movements, and coordination are all affected by THC. Also, since marijuana can affect judgment and decisionmaking, its use can lead to risky sexual behavior, resulting in exposure to sexually transmitted diseases like HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.

 

 

107 posted on 04/05/2005 1:45:51 PM PDT by SolidRedState (E Pluribus Funk --- (Latin taglines are sooooo cool! Don't ya think?))
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To: MeekOneGOP

You could tell just by looking at him that he wasn't going to make it. Troll Nation must be running low on literate kamikazes.


108 posted on 04/05/2005 1:45:58 PM PDT by Lady Jag (I dreamed I surfed all day in my monthly donor wonder bra [https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate])
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To: Arrowhead1952

That be the one.


109 posted on 04/05/2005 1:49:06 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Tag line is being held in protective custody.)
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To: Lady Jag
:)

110 posted on 04/05/2005 2:07:25 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: MeekOneGOP
There is 1,919 keywords.

A NEW FREEPER WORLD RECORD!

111 posted on 04/05/2005 3:02:13 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Sundog; terjegirl

</font color="ffooff">~*keyword overload PING*~</font>


112 posted on 04/05/2005 3:08:05 PM PDT by Skylus (One shy FReeper who openly admits she cannot word or say things as correctly as she wishes to...)
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To: Thunder90
Wow. Dat's a lot!

What was the old record?


113 posted on 04/05/2005 3:09:53 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Sundog; terjegirl
wow...that didn't quite work...so sorry:

~*keyword overload PING*~
114 posted on 04/05/2005 3:10:11 PM PDT by Skylus (One shy FReeper who openly admits she cannot word or say things as correctly as she wishes to...)
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To: Sammy sam; dighton; aculeus; general_re; L,TOWM; Constitution Day; hellinahandcart; Poohbah; ...
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115 posted on 04/05/2005 3:12:32 PM PDT by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsënspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmändø (EMØØK))
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To: Sammy sam

Thanks, Sammy. You've obviously never been to a communist country, so I won't bother you with facts. But I have to clue you on a couple of sad illusions: there is no Never-never Land, no Utopia, no Erewhon, and no perfect communist society. And all for the same reason - they were fictional. The difference is that the authors of the first three knew they were fictional. The author of the fourth didn't.


116 posted on 04/05/2005 3:22:54 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Sammy sam
What a moron! Now can we get back to the important stuff... has anyone seen my fur?


117 posted on 04/05/2005 3:56:08 PM PDT by Shadrak ("Errors of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Thunder90
There is 1,919 keywords.
1,985 now. 2,000 anyone??

-Eric

118 posted on 04/05/2005 3:57:09 PM PDT by E Rocc (WPPFF, 2000 revision.)
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To: Sammy sam

"People will work on projects of their own choosing because (a) they find the work fun and interesting; (b) they enjoy the work relationships with talented and dedicated co-workers; (c) they want to make the world a better place; or (d) they want social status and recognition."


Lucky this wasn't posted yesterday, when I was too tired to think. Or maybe that's when I should have read it.

I will point out one (among many) of the absurdities written here. It's nice to have a job that is rewarding both financially and emotionally. However, real life ain't that way. I work to live. Period. Some of us have to do the grunt work. Wish I could sit all day & post threads to FR. Too bad.

As far as "helping the world" -- I sometimes do things as an act of charity for the religious community I live with. A doctor there, for example, might treat a poor person for free, or reduced charge. It is a way of contributing, and we reap spiritual rewards. You might say, all of us living there share a common belief.

However, BECAUSE I DON'T GET PAID, I can only do this occasionally, and on the side. Most of the volunteer work I do, anyway, is not what I'm normally paid & trained to do. Because if I did give of myself that way, even the most pious people there would think me the biggest chump on the planet.

Which, I think, is anyone who believes your post.


119 posted on 04/05/2005 4:06:54 PM PDT by MoochPooch (A righteous person worries about his or her behavior, an extremist about everyone else's.)
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To: Sammy sam

. No one gets paid to post here--

YOU'RE NOT GETTING PAID ???

Guppy, there's one born every minute.

I've retired on my earnings from posting here.

Now my FrDividend checks are direct deposited to my
account in Aruba.

AH yes communisim, "It hasn't worked any where else in
the world, but WE can make it work HERE!"

Try and remember THIS little phrase from the soviet union,

"They pretend to pay us, we pretend to work."

And another hint, never NEVER join a shock worker brigade.


120 posted on 04/05/2005 4:16:11 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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