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Communism and human nature (Bolshie Mod sez, Arise ye kittens of the earth!)
Bolshie Mod Manifesto ^
Posted on 04/05/2005 10:50:57 AM PDT by Sammy sam
Many argue that communism will never be possible because of "human nature". The essence of this false argument is the belief that a communist society would consist of an all-powerful central government that would tell everybody what to do--and would therefore undermine the creative initiative of individuals and the search for happiness.
This argument is based on two false assumptions:
(1) It assumes that a communist society will look like the former Soviet Union, or the current China, North Korea, etc (ie: corrupt police states with a feudal-style ruling class) (2) It assumes that people will only work in order to own bigger and bigger piles of commodities.
The truth is that: (1) There will be no government in communist society--people will do what they want without being pushed around by anyone. The development of a corrupt police state or a new ruling class will be prevented by the struggles of the masses who will be armed with the weapon of transparency. (2) In a world of abundance for all no one will have to struggle (or even work) for the necessities of life (which will be a birthright--just like the air we all breathe). People will work on projects of their own choosing because (a) they find the work fun and interesting; (b) they enjoy the work relationships with talented and dedicated co-workers; (c) they want to make the world a better place; or (d) they want social status and recognition. A world of abundance for all where work is fun (and voluntary) will be made possible by a much higher productivity of human labor.
An example of communist work relationships is provided by the Linux computer operating system--the core of which was created by many thousands of people--all working for free. A 2nd example is the "work" involved when people post to this forum. No one gets paid to post here--but people do so--because it is an expression of their principles and convictions.
Who is in control? Under capitalism (and previous economic systems such as feudalism and slavery) only a small fraction of the population has control over their conditions of work--and the life of society as a whole. Only under genuine communism will the masses control their conditions of work--and the culture, economy and politics of society.
TOPICS: Philosophy
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posted on
04/05/2005 10:50:57 AM PDT
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Sammy sam
To: Sammy sam
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posted on
04/05/2005 10:51:56 AM PDT
by
Kenton
("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid" - Damon Runyon)
To: Sammy sam
Blah, no government. Everyone living off the land. Sure.
A non-communist state will run over the commune as soon as there's no central power.
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posted on
04/05/2005 10:52:17 AM PDT
by
G32
To: Sammy sam
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posted on
04/05/2005 10:53:18 AM PDT
by
Constitution Day
(Standing athwart FR, yelling 'Stop!')
To: Sammy sam
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posted on
04/05/2005 10:53:42 AM PDT
by
scan58
To: Sammy sam
"The truth is that: (1) There will be no government in communist society--people will do what they want without being pushed around by anyone.Over 100 million innocent human beings were murdered by communist governments in the 20th century chasing your insane delusions.
6
posted on
04/05/2005 10:54:18 AM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: Sammy sam
The pure communism you ask for is a modified anarchist system, left and right meeting and annihilating.
It cannot work. People will always work for their own good.
7
posted on
04/05/2005 10:54:46 AM PDT
by
Crazieman
(Islam. Religion of peace, and they'll kill you to prove it.)
To: Sammy sam
Wow, this should be interesting
To: Sammy sam
You should have posted this on April 1st.
9
posted on
04/05/2005 10:55:15 AM PDT
by
EternalHope
(Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
To: Sammy sam
...who will be armed with the weapon of transparencyThe "weapon of transparency"...like The Invisible Man? You're dreamin', bud.
10
posted on
04/05/2005 10:56:28 AM PDT
by
scan58
To: Sammy sam
The most impressive aspect of this essay is the lack of spelling errors and use of punctuation. Sammy must have excellent supervision at the home...
11
posted on
04/05/2005 10:58:09 AM PDT
by
Spok
To: Sammy sam; MEG33; dubyaismypresident; 4mycountry; Pan_Yans Wife; Charlie OK; E Rocc; dirtboy; ...
Another
12
posted on
04/05/2005 10:59:45 AM PDT
by
Arrowhead1952
(TV News and the MSM - - - ROTFLMAO)
To: Sammy sam
Only under genuine communism will the masses control their conditions of work--and the culture, economy and politics of society.See, that's why it won't work. Humans need leaders. I suppose the intentions were good, at first, in the Soviet Union, China, Cuba, et al, but it all rolls around to the same old garbage government control.
There is and never will be such a thing as "genuine communism". Besides, I like my stuff and I don't want to share it with anyone else.
13
posted on
04/05/2005 11:01:07 AM PDT
by
scan58
To: Sammy sam
We Love Bolshie Mod!
"Arise Ye Russian People!"
Za Nushu Chestnyu...
14
posted on
04/05/2005 11:01:13 AM PDT
by
Darksheare
("I'll tell you once more before I get off the floor, don't bring me clowns." -misheard lyrics)
To: Darksheare
To: Cincinatus' Wife; scan59
16
posted on
04/05/2005 11:02:42 AM PDT
by
scan58
To: Sammy sam
Right, and some animals are more equal than other animals
17
posted on
04/05/2005 11:04:52 AM PDT
by
Godzilla
(What on earth are you here for?)
To: Sammy sam
18
posted on
04/05/2005 11:05:54 AM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: Sammy sam
LOL! thanks for the humor break.
19
posted on
04/05/2005 11:07:07 AM PDT
by
talleyman
(A mind is a terrible thing...)
To: Sammy sam
Hey a**hole, how did you ever manage to chew through the leather straps? First, the land of freedom, abundance, fun, blah, blah, blah described in your diatribe already exist - it's called the United States of America. Second, your idiotic claim that capitalism is a system in which the society at large is "controlled" by a select few is delusional. Everyone is free to move about the country and work (or not) as they please. You obviously have a low opinion of all people if you think they can be YOUR equals.
20
posted on
04/05/2005 11:07:26 AM PDT
by
Jaysun
(I must warn you, I am a black belt in bullshitsu)
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