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Bush's Job Growth WORST in 50 Years (Roll out the red carpet for this “staunch Bush supporter.”)
bopnews ^ | Hale Stewart

Posted on 01/03/2006 8:29:33 AM PST by intruder alert

Bush’s giant Right Wing Noise Machine (RWNM) loves to preach about the Bush economic miracle. In fact, the RWNM’s current thinking is Bush doesn’t spend enough time talking about his economic triumphs. If only he did, then everyone would fall in line and believe in the great Bush economic miracle. There is one problem with this argument: it’s a lie. Any way you look at the Bush economy, it comes up short. Today, I want to compare Bush’s job creation record with other economic recoveries. As usual, Bush comes up way short.

The national Bureau of Economic Research has identified 8 recessions since May 1954. For comparison purposed, I only used 5 of these periods because they are longer than the current expansion. Next, I used the total nonfarm employment numbers from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS). I measured the jobs created from the trough (lowest point) to the next identified highest economic point. (The NBER states a “peak marks the end of an expansion and the beginning of a recession.”) I compared the total number jobs created for the entire expansion as well as the total number of jobs created 49 months into the expansion (According to the NBER, the lowest point of the last trough was in November 2001, making December 2005 the 49th month of this expansion). Here’s how the numbers (in millions) compare.

The expansion of 2/61 – 12/69 created 17,684 total jobs and 6,244 at 49 months.

The expansion of 3/75 – 7/80 created 13,183 total jobs and 12,831 at 49 months.

The expansion of 11/82 – 7/90 created 21,003 total jobs and 11,510 at 49 months.

The expansion of 3/91 – 3/01 created 23,969 total jobs and 8,266 at 49 months.

The current expansion which started in November 2001 has created a total of 3,410 jobs.

In other words, at 49 months into an expansion, Bush’s job creation record is last. While we don’t know when this expansion will end, the Bush economy would have to triple the total number of jobs created in order to get to 4th place on this list.

What’s going on here? The basic problem is some areas of the economy are creating jobs. The BLS tracks 13 different job sectors. 7 (a little over half) have created jobs since November 2001 – natural resources/mining (37,000), construction (539,000), financial (550,000), professional services (238,000), education/health (2.1 million), leisure/hospitality (803,000) and governmental employees (1 million). Of all the jobs created three areas – government, education/health account for 57% of job growth. Of the jobs created outside of education, health and governmental employees (2,167,000), construction, professional services and financial services account for about 60% of the jobs created. Real estate is obviously related to all of these areas. Construction is obviously related to real estate, as are financial services (mortgage lending etc…) and professional services (real estate agents, appraisers etc…) So, real estate, governmental employees and health/education jobs are doing just fine.

6 areas – a little under half of the sectors the BLS tracks – have had a net loss in number of jobs: manufacturing (-2,800,000), information (-565,000), trade/transport/utilities (-353), whole sales trade (-107), retail (-157), and transportation/warehousing (67,000). Manufacturing and information are obviously the two biggest areas of job losses. Some of the information service jobs are the result of natural attrition from Y2K. However, I somehow doubt that is the only reason for the losses. While there is no information regarding outsourcing losses (because the government does not keep any statistics on the subject), I fell safe in assuming outsourcing is a big factor involved in the losses.

In summation, sum people are doing well. They can find jobs and are probably financially somewhat secure. However, others have seen their jobs literally disappear overnight and are hurting to find new jobs that pay commensurate levels. These people are hurting from the current “expansion”. Of course, Bush and the RWNM has forgotten about them.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
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To: NonLinear
Even worse, in my city, they seem to be DYING IN ALPHEBETICAL ORDER! Seriesly! I didn't believe it either, but I just checked the obits and it's TRUE!!

This is HUGH!

Oh my GOD! It's a plot it is happening here too!!! It's series!

221 posted on 01/03/2006 10:44:18 AM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: MNJohnnie

Hysteric leftist.

I love it. You're so very eloguent. I'm more conservative than you'll ever be. Bush is not a conservative.


222 posted on 01/03/2006 10:45:16 AM PST by dljordan
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To: intruder alert; Mikey_1962; CharlesWayneCT; MNJohnnie; VRWCmember

And post # 94 and 3 112 and # 119 (not #127) and # 146 and #166 and # 178.


You get my point?


223 posted on 01/03/2006 10:45:25 AM PST by airborne (If being a Christian was a crime, would there be enough evidence to convict you?)
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To: intruder alert
Today, I want to compare Bush’s job creation record with other economic recoveries. As usual, Bush comes up way short.

Each of the periods listed covers parts of two administrations.
1961 - 1969 Presidents Kennedy & Johnson
1975 - 1980 Presidents Ford & Carter
1982 - 1990 Presidents Reagan & Bush
1991 - 2001 Presidents Bush & Clinton

Why aren’t we comparing President Bush, one on one to the other Presidents?

Why aren’t we taking into account the historical problems President Bush has faced?

1. The recession President Bush inherited.

2. The Enron fraud that prospered during the Clinton administration and was uncovered and prosecuted by the Bush administration.

3. The Sept 11th attacks on America’s seats of commerce, military and government (the intended destination of flight 93).

4. The Iraq war, which has been fought and led second to none, still has been very costly.

Each President works in a unique time and set of circumstances which needs to be viewed in a larger national and world picture, it’s not as easy as cherry picking a few statistics and proving a President “comes up way short”.

224 posted on 01/03/2006 10:45:28 AM PST by RJL
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To: intruder alert

Wow, not zotted, yet.

IB4Z


225 posted on 01/03/2006 10:45:33 AM PST by Sensei Ern (Now, IB4Z! http://www.myspace.com/reconcomedy/ "Cowards cut and run. Heroes never do!")
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To: dljordan
You do NOT criticize the president here. This is not allowed.

Are you kidding? The president is criticized here all the time....but to criticize him on this issue is just someone looking to criticize for the sake of it. It's ridiculous and typical liberal BS.

226 posted on 01/03/2006 10:45:59 AM PST by jennyjenny
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To: rlmorel

That's just wrong!

I mean, c'mon, Hillary in a skirt?


227 posted on 01/03/2006 10:47:22 AM PST by confederacy of dunces (Don't forget the cheese!)
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To: dljordan
You do NOT criticize the president here. This is not allowed.

Oh please, two long time members have gone so far as to make comments worthy of USSC visits because they hate the President so much. Then others refer to him as "BuSHIT" and plan to campaign for Democrats in 2006 in order to "impeach BuSHIT".

228 posted on 01/03/2006 10:47:29 AM PST by COEXERJ145 (Those Who Want to Impeach President Bush Are the Party of Treason.)
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To: dljordan
You do NOT criticize the president here. This is not allowed.

You've been here long enough to know that's just not true!

Have anything relevent to add to the thread?

229 posted on 01/03/2006 10:48:26 AM PST by airborne (If being a Christian was a crime, would there be enough evidence to convict you?)
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To: intruder alert

IBTZ!!!


230 posted on 01/03/2006 10:50:10 AM PST by wireman
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

He is a troll, he's just looking for trouble.


231 posted on 01/03/2006 10:50:25 AM PST by darkangel82
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Um...am I the only one here who thinks the 'zotted' person in question is actually looking for answers?

It looks that way, and technically speaking we haven't unleashed the zot yet. So, feel free to engage in intelligent discourse with the poster for a little while longer. In the meantime, conditions are ripe for heavy thunderstorm activity.

232 posted on 01/03/2006 10:56:38 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: intruder alert

The nature of the employment sector has changed rapidly ovr the past seven years.

All of the older mainframe technology and software is being replaced by PC based servers and network systems.

Many are being forced to 'reeducate' themselves to try and find work in the same section of the economy.

The MSM is cutting losses and laying off workers.

Hollywood itself is failing, and employs less.

None of these are the fault nor can be fixed by the President.


233 posted on 01/03/2006 10:57:11 AM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: LS; generally; intruder alert
That's why there is a big, big gap between the "jobs" survey and the employment/unemployment numbers. People are working---it's just that a lot are not working for someone else.

Right-o. There is a "Household Survey" by the gov't that captures the self-employed data, and which shows a historically strong surge in gainful employment. Here is one reference to it:

http://www.nationalreview.com/nrof_buzzcharts/buzzcharts200408240832.asp

Kery-ites have a blind spot to the self-employed. They confuse an entrepreneur whose business earns more than $200,000 a year with the "idle rich" (which is what HE is). They must think the chap has all his income lying about as cash in the vault and not re-invested in his business.
234 posted on 01/03/2006 10:57:14 AM PST by kenavi ("Remember, your fathers sacrificed themselves without need of a messianic complex." Ariel Sharon)
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To: dljordan
I know, I was being facetious.

Oh I am sorry. That is EXACTLY the kind of response you get when you debate a Leftist only THEY are serious!!! You do an excellent Leftist impression.

235 posted on 01/03/2006 10:57:17 AM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: intruder alert

Zot!

236 posted on 01/03/2006 10:58:12 AM PST by Paul_Denton (The U.S. should adopt the policy of Oom Shmoom: Israeli policy where no one gives a sh*t about U.N.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Read the article. This is a flaming slander NOT an attempt to get answers. This person basically just thru out every Democrat Talking point with NO regard at all for reality or fact.


237 posted on 01/03/2006 10:58:51 AM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: Admin Moderator
In the meantime, conditions are ripe for heavy thunderstorm activity.

LOL!

*puts on his raincoat and boots*

238 posted on 01/03/2006 10:59:38 AM PST by darkangel82
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To: intruder alert
The expansion of 3/75 – 7/80 created 13,183 total jobs and 12,831 at 49 months.

I suspect the numbers are bogus. If we added 13 million jobs during the Carter years I must have been dreaming about how hard it was to find a decent job!

239 posted on 01/03/2006 11:00:30 AM PST by 6ppc
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To: intruder alert
As a staunch Bush supporter,

Are you one of these guys that calls Rush and says, I am a Republican, B-U-T.....?

240 posted on 01/03/2006 11:03:18 AM PST by Mark17
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