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Randy Neugebauer: I yelled 'baby killer'
Politico ^ | 03/22/10 | JAKE SHERMAN

Posted on 03/22/2010 11:18:33 AM PDT by OldDeckHand

Texas Republican Rep. Randy Neugebauer was the mysterious lawmaker that shouted “baby killer” during Rep. Bart Stupak’s (D-Mich.) floor speech Sunday night, his office said Monday.

Rumors that Neugebauer was the yeller began swirling Sunday night, after several lawmaker surmised that the scream was tinted with a southern accent.

“Last night was the climax of weeks and months of debate on a health care bill that my constituents fear and do not support,” Neugebauer said in a news release. “In the heat and emotion of the debate, I exclaimed the phrase ‘it’s a baby killer’ in reference to the agreement reached by the Democratic leadership. While I remain heartbroken over the passage of this bill and the tragic consequences it will have for the unborn, I deeply regret that my actions were mistakenly interpreted as a direct reference to Congressman Stupak himself.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 111th; abortion; babykiller; bhohealthcare; michigan; neugebauer; randyneugebauer; stupak; texas
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To: allmendream

Your stats on “elective” abortions and those necessary are wrong as much as you and others do not want to hear it. If Stupak was duped...and if I was...it does not reduce his good intentions or lessen his having the courage of his convictions. I am giving him that which is more than you are doing with me. And I still have not insulted you.


121 posted on 03/22/2010 4:29:04 PM PDT by DallasSun (i believe in separation of church and hate.)
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To: DallasSun
Courage of his convictions?

The louse said he was going to not support the bill if it supplied funds for abortions.

It does.

He voted for it anyway.

It does, and will provide funds for abortions.

Good intentions? ‘Oh, don't judge me by the actual outcome of my actions, the outcome that as soon as I began my actions you all said was counterproductive to my stated goal, my intentions were good.’ Please.

We all knew that the Stupak amendment was a fig leaf. We told him it was. He said he would only support the bill if the language was preserved. It was stripped from the bill and he voted for it anyway.

His intentions were never honorable. His courage was always doubtful. His convictions were nowhere to be seen.

122 posted on 03/22/2010 4:35:22 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: allmendream

Again, he stipulated elective abortions. Fine, you do not believe he believes this. You do not believe the man has any convictions. Believe me when I say I do have convictions. Strong ones on this subject. After our day long conversation, I would hope you would at least believe that. We can disagree about Stupak. He voted for healthcare...I cannot defend him on that except like Rodriquez and Cuellar here in San Antonio, they truly believe this is the best for their country and their constituents were overwhelmingly for it..and they are the ones who will vote for them come time for them to be re elected. It is how politicians vote..the way it get them re elected. This is not my ..or your...first time at that rodeo.


123 posted on 03/22/2010 4:39:41 PM PDT by DallasSun (i believe in separation of church and hate.)
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To: Williams

“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” -George Orwell

...could not be more accurate in this case.


124 posted on 03/22/2010 4:47:06 PM PDT by RDAardvark (it's always darkest before the dawn, but it just keeps getting darker around here...)
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To: DallasSun
Oh, unlike the majority of the rest of the nation Michigan actually supports health-care socialization? Got a citation for that?

And no, I don't give you any benefit of the doubt after your “I don't understand” “I do understand” folly. I think you are going to say whatever you think you need to say to try to maintain the fiction that the Stupak amendment was ever anything but a fig leaf to attempt to make palatable what was unpalatable, and to give supposedly Pro-life Democrats like Stupak cover.

I don't buy that this was ever anything but what it was, a false flag, a fig leaf, a spoonful of sugar to help the medicine go down; but they didn't even supply that at the last second. I don't see where anybody with an IQ above room temperature would think that this ever was anything but what it was, an exercise in allowing Pro-life democrats to vote for a bill that provided federal funds for abortion while saying “I never did!”.

125 posted on 03/22/2010 4:51:09 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: allmendream

okay


126 posted on 03/22/2010 4:52:23 PM PDT by DallasSun (i believe in separation of church and hate.)
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To: OldDeckHand

No problem here.


127 posted on 03/22/2010 4:52:45 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: texasredhead8712; TexKat; ValerieTexas; grellis; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; ...

128 posted on 03/22/2010 5:29:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://themagicnegro.com/)
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keywords "stupak" and "bartstupak" chrono sort, duplicates removed:
129 posted on 03/22/2010 5:31:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://themagicnegro.com/)
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To: DallasSun

Luckily, I suppose, for now the district in which I reside is pretty “safe” for a conservative candidate. I’m in the lower part of the Pennsylvania “T” where Republicans have a much easier time of it. Most people here are fiscally conservative as well as socially conservative. On another thread, a poster mentioned something Serpenthead said about PA. Philadelphia and Pittsburgh bracket an Alabama type area within the state of PA. Still, I have no illusions where Democrats are concerned. For better or for worse, I consider their party the equivalent of a malignant cancer and al-Queda.


130 posted on 03/22/2010 6:02:55 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: DallasSun
Why either? For heavens sakes.....Why either one?????

Surely you jest. Liberty and Socialism can not coexist, they are mutually exclusive, if you don't understand that then, there is no explanation that would suffice.

Notice how well Islam and Christianity coexist in Iran, Saudi Arabia......

Ignorance and Vice

"It is high Time for the people of this country to declare, whether they will be freemen or slaves? It is an important question which ought to be decided. It concerns us more that anything in this life. The Salvation of our souls is interested in this event. For wherever tyranny is established immorality of every kind comes in like a torrent. It is in the interest of tyrants to reduce the people to ignorance and vice. For they cannot live in a country where virtue and knowledge prevail. The religion and public liberty of a people are intimately connected; their interests are interwoven, they cannot subsist separately; therefore they rise and fall together. For this reason, it is always observable, that those who are combined to destroy the people's liberties, practice every art to poison their morals. How greatly then does it concern us, at all events, to put a stop to the progress of tyranny." --

Samuel Adams


131 posted on 03/22/2010 6:38:03 PM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: MrB
I don’t know about you, but I don’t tend to like to hang out with people who actively work for the prince of this world.

MrB, like you, I know in Whom I have believed. I read all your posts when we meet on a thread.

132 posted on 03/22/2010 6:41:44 PM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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