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Could Issue of Abortion Derail Health Care Bill ? ....(deep divide among Democrats)
ABC News ^ | March 4, 2010 | HUMA KHAN

Posted on 03/04/2010 5:24:50 AM PST by IrishMike

Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich., today said he and 11 other House members will not vote for the health care bill unless it includes more stringent language to prevent federal funding from going toward abortion services.

"We're not going to vote for this bill with that kind of language," Stupak said on "Good Morning America" today, referring to the Senate health care bill, which includes less restrictive language than what the Democratic lawmaker proposed in the House.

Stupak said he is willing to take the criticism that will be hurled at him if he blocks the bill because of the abortion language, but that he won't back down on his principles.

"I want to see health care pass. I agree... people are being priced out of the market. We must have health care but, boy, there are some principles and beliefs that some of us are not going to pass," he said. "We're prepared to take the responsibility. I mean, I've been catching it ever since last fall. Let's face it, I want to see health care. But we're not going to bypass some principles and beliefs that we feel strongly about."

The abortion debate threatens to stall the health care bill and reflects the deep divide among Democrats.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; congress; democrats; elections; healthcare; reconciliation; stupak
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1 posted on 03/04/2010 5:24:50 AM PST by IrishMike
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To: IrishMike

Red herring.

Don’t let them occupy us arguing the objectionable nature of components of the bill.

Destroy the entire concept of socialist medicine.


2 posted on 03/04/2010 5:27:04 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: IrishMike

So these 11 Democrats are so concerned about killing babies but they are all onboard when it comes to killing Americans?


3 posted on 03/04/2010 5:27:44 AM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

Since not a word of the senate bill can be changed, Mr. Stupak has no choice but to vote aye or nay on the current abortion language. He may get a promise that it will be changed, but would you trust those people?


4 posted on 03/04/2010 5:30:54 AM PST by pnut22
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To: pnut22

The sad part is, these “representatives” are NEVER supposed to be voting on a bill in front of them based on a promise of some future action.

They are supposed to read and understand each bill on its own and then vote for it or against it based upon whether they believe it will benefit or harm their direct constituents primarily, the nation secondarily.

We have been indoctrinated that the role of the senate is to weigh the impact primarily at the national level, but that is erroneous and has only come about because of the over-reaching of the federal government and their trampling of state sovereignty.


5 posted on 03/04/2010 5:36:07 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: IrishMike

Endangered Species: A Dem with a backbone, only 11 left in congress.


6 posted on 03/04/2010 5:36:32 AM PST by marstegreg
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To: marstegreg

You’re giving those 11 too much credit.


7 posted on 03/04/2010 5:38:26 AM PST by pnut22
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To: pnut22

Give Stupak a break. It is noteworthy that Stupak is not hiding from the media the day after BO announced his plan to amend the Senate bill.

He is fearlessly telling Pelosi to shove it. That takes some guts, and he is giving other moderates cover.

This is significant, and if we want to stop BOcare, we should gladly take any NO vote for any reason.


8 posted on 03/04/2010 5:38:30 AM PST by mwl8787
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To: mwl8787

I will give him credit if he and his fellow anti abortion congress critters hang tight and flush this piece of crap down the toilet.


9 posted on 03/04/2010 5:41:38 AM PST by pnut22
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To: IrishMike

I hope my Senator sticks to his guns and I appreciate that. But, make no mistake, if they change the health care package to leave out abortion, he’ll vote for it.


10 posted on 03/04/2010 5:47:05 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: IrishMike

These are just 11. I think they are way shorter than that of the votes.


11 posted on 03/04/2010 5:51:35 AM PST by GUNGAGALUNGA (Democratus Suckus Teatus is the Latin root for Democrat and it means to tax)
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To: IrishMike

This IS the issue which kill the Bill.


12 posted on 03/04/2010 5:51:50 AM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: caver

Have we considered the possibility of Government mandates for blood, cell & organ donations? First, of course there will be mandatory DNA registration.

Bet it’s in that bill somewhere!


13 posted on 03/04/2010 5:51:52 AM PST by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: pnut22

You’re giving those 11 too much credit.

Hey, I’ve seen way too many Republicans give in to these bozos. I gotta give credit where credit is due. They are standing their ground. I may change my mind later, but right now, they are the only dems that actually stand for something.


14 posted on 03/04/2010 5:52:09 AM PST by marstegreg
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To: IrishMike

More false hope. A Democrat is a Democrat is a Democrat.


15 posted on 03/04/2010 5:54:16 AM PST by kabar
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To: IrishMike

If the pro-abortionists were standing against the Bill, they would be lauded by the MSM as being principled.


16 posted on 03/04/2010 5:55:45 AM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: marstegreg

Nancy will count up the votes and if possible give him a pass to vote nay. I’m sorry but I have no faith in any, and I mean any, elected official doing the right thing solely because it’s the right thing to do.


17 posted on 03/04/2010 5:57:34 AM PST by pnut22
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To: MsLady

They can’t change it. They can only promise to change it. Will he vote for a promise?


18 posted on 03/04/2010 6:00:14 AM PST by rushmom (l)
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To: IrishMike

right, they won’t vote for it ‘with that kind of language’....so why does Pelosi keep claiming abortions are not covered????

Because the funds don’t say they will be used for abortions...they will be used for ‘clinics’.

That perform abortions........


19 posted on 03/04/2010 6:09:35 AM PST by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: IrishMike

Stupak says he and 11 others won’t vote for it.....however, in the last round 40 Democrats voted against it. It sounds to me that Stupak is about 30 votes short of being able to stop the bill. Am I misunderstanding?


20 posted on 03/04/2010 6:20:58 AM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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