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Stupak: I have votes to defeat health bill
The Hill's blog briefing room ^ | 11/17/09 | Eric Zimmermann

Posted on 11/17/2009 8:10:27 PM PST by Mount Athos

Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) pledged on Tuesday morning to defeat healthcare reform legislation if his abortion amendment is taken out, saying 10 to 20 anti-abortion-rights Democrats would vote against a bill with weaker language.

"They’re not going to take it out," Stupak said on "Fox and Friends," referring to Senate Democrats. "If they do, healthcare will not move forward."

Stupak's amendment prohibits any insurance plan on a potential healthcare exchange from accepting federal subsidies if it covers abortion. Pro-abortion-rights lawmakers say that language is too broad and would drastically reduce access to abortion.

White House senior adviser David Axelrod said over the weekend that he expected Stupak's language to be "adjusted."

Stupak disagreed.

"We won fair and square," Stupak said of the House vote. "[T]hat is why Mr. Axelrod is not a legislator — he doesn’t really know what he is talking about."

The Michigan Democrat said he has enough votes to take down the whole bill if his amendment is replaced with a weaker version.

"If they strip our language … they keep the Capps amendment. At least 10 to 15 to 20 of us will not vote for it," he said, referring to an amendment offered by pro-choice Rep. Lois Capps (D-Calif.).

The healthcare bill passed the House by five votes. Stupak's 10 to 20 votes would be enough to defeat the bill, unless some Democrats who originally voted "no" changed position.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; bartstupak; healthcarereform; stupakpitts
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1 posted on 11/17/2009 8:10:27 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

We The People will clean this sewer in 2010 and 2012 so help us God.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXAcHtdU3nY


2 posted on 11/17/2009 8:16:31 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead (clean the sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: Mount Athos

He did use VERY strong words, but I simply don’t trust middle-aged men (or women) with gray hair. He’ll sell out by the time this is over.


3 posted on 11/17/2009 8:17:17 PM PST by BobL (Real Men don't use Tag Lines)
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To: Mount Athos

Normally, I wouldn’t trust a Democrat on such an issue. I heard Stupack get interviewed by Raymond Arroyo nd I have to admit that I was impressed with him.


4 posted on 11/17/2009 8:18:42 PM PST by incredulous joe ("Live Free or Fight")
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To: Mount Athos

it takes 40 votes but I would like nothing better than to see these baby killers from hell drop to their knees in horror that the murder of babies cost them the bill of the century and that history would have to report that but for their desire to slaughter innocent little babies, the health care for millions would have passed.


5 posted on 11/17/2009 8:19:46 PM PST by londonfog
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To: Mount Athos

The dems will compromise and pass it with the amendment, then revisit it later, and ‘compromise’ it right back out when they have the votes.


6 posted on 11/17/2009 8:19:47 PM PST by Spirochete (Texas is an anagram for Taxes)
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To: Mount Athos

I’m sure Pelosi et al will keep the Stupak amendment in. I mean this bill is about getting good healthcare to all Americans. It’s not about abortion, is it? IS IT?


7 posted on 11/17/2009 8:21:36 PM PST by Rennes Templar (All Hail the Community Organizer -in -Chief)
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To: Rennes Templar

Its not about health care or abortion, its about control, socialism, and the egomaniacal political goals of leftist twits. .


8 posted on 11/17/2009 8:24:25 PM PST by HerrBlucher
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To: Mount Athos
Stupack and his amendment are running a distraction tactic. This bill needs to die...period. With or without abortion coverage it is still going to destroy private health care and jobs.

what the Dems have accomplished is a redirection of the focus from the whole bill to one aspect of it.

9 posted on 11/17/2009 8:27:11 PM PST by JrsyJack (a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
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If we're going to have government health care in this country... I don't want taxpayer-financed abortion. The liberals can take it or they can give up their dream. Either way suits me just fine!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

10 posted on 11/17/2009 8:33:17 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: incredulous joe
I heard Stupack get interviewed by Raymond Arroyo nd I have to admit that I was impressed with him.

How do you think he got elected? By sounding good, that's how.

When the chips are down, he, or at least enough of his cronies, will vote for the compromise which will include abortion.

11 posted on 11/17/2009 8:36:03 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction;, one of the five top worries of the American farmer.)
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To: Mount Athos; All
Stupak and any other so-called pro-life Democrats are obviously ignorant of Hussein and his ways.

HUSSEIN WILL DO WHAT HE WANTS TO DO ONCE THIS LEGISLATION IS PASSED.

Look at what he did with TARP: he used it to bail out auto companies. Hussein didn't give a DAMN about what the money was supposed to be used for...

HUSSEIN WILL ALSO WORK WITH THE JUDICIARY TO GET THE 'ABORTION' CLAUSE STRICKEN FROM THE LEGISLATION!

This has been the modus operandi of liberals who have abortion as a sacrament for YEARS. They cannot get what they want via the legislature, so they nullify the will of legislatures THROUGH THE COURTS.

Anyone of any party who says they are pro-life MUST STOP THE BILL ENTRIELY!

12 posted on 11/17/2009 8:36:10 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Mount Athos
"Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) pledged on Tuesday morning to defeat healthcare reform legislation if his abortion amendment is taken out, saying 10 to 20 anti-abortion-rights Democrats would vote against a bill with weaker language."

This sounds like something I have heard before:


13 posted on 11/17/2009 8:37:50 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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To: BobL

stupak himself won’t, but maybe some of the 10-20 he’s counting on will


14 posted on 11/17/2009 8:40:06 PM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: BobL
He's ALREADY a sell out! We don't need this stinkin' health care bill - abortion funding included or not.

We are facing much more than a single issue problem here.

15 posted on 11/17/2009 8:42:39 PM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Mount Athos

He does. They do not want to lose the “Health Care” issue. They will if they pass this ridiculous bill.


16 posted on 11/17/2009 8:44:34 PM PST by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: Mount Athos
It's still evil without the paid for abortions.

What Soviet health cares teaches us.

18 posted on 11/17/2009 8:49:55 PM PST by Nateman (If liberals aren't screaming you're doing it wrong.)
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To: incredulous joe
Anyone with balls to say this:
"[T]hat is why Mr. Axelrod is not a legislator — he doesn’t really know what he is talking about."

Earns my respect instantly.
19 posted on 11/17/2009 8:59:14 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: Mount Athos

Stupak is a stooge. The entire bill must be killed.


20 posted on 11/17/2009 9:02:11 PM PST by Rosemont
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