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Abortion Deal Falls Apart! Stupak says in Rules Committee at 12.02am

Posted on 11/06/2009 9:05:41 PM PST by preamble

"We are back to where we were in July." Stupak 12.04am 11/7.

Pelosicare is almost dead. Let's kill it!

Stupak puts forth Hyde Amendment language Amendment to Rules Committee.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhoabortion; bhohealthcare; stupak
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1 posted on 11/06/2009 9:05:41 PM PST by preamble
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To: preamble

More?


2 posted on 11/06/2009 9:08:19 PM PST by Rembrandt
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To: preamble

Kill the bill!


3 posted on 11/06/2009 9:11:00 PM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Freedom's Fortress")
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To: preamble

Got a link or something?

Basically, they’ve been in the same place since July the whole time. They just bluffed at certain times to claim they had votes that they didn’t. But if Bart Stupak has some more news for us, please do enlighten. :)


4 posted on 11/06/2009 9:12:02 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: preamble

Hey—if you are posting a new thread include a link or source! This is not sound byte central here at FR.


5 posted on 11/06/2009 9:12:57 PM PST by tflabo
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Yeah yeah yeah. I heard this all before when they said the public option is dead. I dont trust anything these people say anymore.

Probably just another Democrat trick so we let our guards down!!!


6 posted on 11/06/2009 9:14:22 PM PST by neverbluffer (But,)
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To: preamble

Threatening the “blue dogs” with primary opposition didn’t work? Maybe they’ll try bribing them again, with tax dollars of course.


7 posted on 11/06/2009 9:14:43 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: preamble

I guess that is a twitter from Stupak.

What is the interpretation? Why should we feel Pelosicare is almost dead?

Just checked CSPAN2—the Rules Committee is in session. Chris Smith of NJ speaking.


8 posted on 11/06/2009 9:14:53 PM PST by exit82 (Sarah Palin is President No. 45. Get behind her, GOP, or get out of the way.)
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To: tflabo
Hey—if you are posting a new thread include a link or source! This is not sound byte central here at FR.

Appropriate comment from a "rules committee" member of Free Republic. Yes by all means we must follow the rules. And so must these Congresscritters. But you are wrong about one thing - this is indeed soundbyte central.

9 posted on 11/06/2009 9:15:31 PM PST by plain talk
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To: preamble

Stupak is quite liberal on most issues, but he is staunchly, staunchly pro-life. Perfect 100% rating. from the National Right to Life Council, perfect 0% rating from NARAL. Opposes embryonic stem-cell research, supports a ban on partial-birth abortion, very much in favor of rights for the fetus.


10 posted on 11/06/2009 9:15:35 PM PST by DemforBush (Now officially 100% ex-Democrat.)
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To: preamble
Great! Keep the calls and faxes coming, folks. These holdout dems just need some persuading.

Kill this monstrosity!

11 posted on 11/06/2009 9:17:27 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: DemforBush

With “Pro-Life” credentials like those, I find it very surprised that Pelosi even lets him in the building.


12 posted on 11/06/2009 9:17:34 PM PST by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON and moderates make me PUKE!!!")
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To: Rembrandt

There are approximately 40 Reps who are with Stupak. Stupak has
been threatening Pelosi he has 40 votes. Stupak is a Democrat
but pro-life.
They don’t want taxpayers to subsidize or pay for abortions.
They want at least a vote on their Stupak Amendment.

There was some compromise, the Ellsworth Amendment,
which was going to try to get some of these people to sign on.

If all 40 Reps object, they don’t have the votes.

They are going to have to let them offer an amendment on the Stupak/Hyde language on the floor. No taxpayer funded abortion.

Since the President said that no abortions will be funded in Sept. in
this Joint Session of Congress speech, this would be a political
hot potato. The Amendment would have to be voted on by
every member.

I think Pelosi wanted no amendments to be able to be offered
on the floor.


13 posted on 11/06/2009 9:18:10 PM PST by preamble
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Like that means something today! Still no trust here...


14 posted on 11/06/2009 9:18:26 PM PST by neverbluffer (But,)
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To: preamble

The vote is coming tomorrow. It is passing. Obama and the RATs will claim victory. Deal with it. We lost at the voting booth in November 2008.


15 posted on 11/06/2009 9:18:57 PM PST by CatOwner
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Someone seriesly wants to keep his job!

16 posted on 11/06/2009 9:21:23 PM PST by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: preamble

Democrats clear impasse blocking health care vote (12:13 AM EST 11/07)


17 posted on 11/06/2009 9:24:27 PM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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Boston Globe reporting that RATS still dont have enough votes to pass it. At least one RAT will vote no because it’s not radical enough for him.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2009/11/07/health_care_headache_for_house_democrats/


18 posted on 11/06/2009 9:24:32 PM PST by freespirited (Liberals are only liberal about sex & drugs. Otherwise, they want to control your life. --DHorowitz)
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To: truthandlife

I don’t believe the AP story is correct.

Rep Jim McGovern who is temporarily chairing the Rules Committee and just
said “If this (Stupak) Amendment is allowed on the floor” I will vote against it.
Stupak Amendment is Hyde language (pro-life) language (no taxpayer
or subsidized abortion.)

So, I don’t believe they (Stupak group) have any deal with Pelosi.
There are 40 votes out there that Pelosi doesn’t have.


19 posted on 11/06/2009 9:34:01 PM PST by preamble
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To: truthandlife

I don’t believe the AP story is correct.

Rep Jim McGovern who is temporarily chairing the Rules Committee and just
said “If this (Stupak) Amendment is allowed on the floor” I will vote against it.
Stupak Amendment is Hyde language (pro-life) language (no taxpayer
or subsidized abortion.)

So, I don’t believe they (Stupak group) have any deal with Pelosi.
There are 40 votes out there that Pelosi doesn’t have.


20 posted on 11/06/2009 9:34:02 PM PST by preamble
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