Again, he stipulated elective abortions. Fine, you do not believe he believes this. You do not believe the man has any convictions. Believe me when I say I do have convictions. Strong ones on this subject. After our day long conversation, I would hope you would at least believe that. We can disagree about Stupak. He voted for healthcare...I cannot defend him on that except like Rodriquez and Cuellar here in San Antonio, they truly believe this is the best for their country and their constituents were overwhelmingly for it..and they are the ones who will vote for them come time for them to be re elected. It is how politicians vote..the way it get them re elected. This is not my ..or your...first time at that rodeo.
And no, I don't give you any benefit of the doubt after your “I don't understand” “I do understand” folly. I think you are going to say whatever you think you need to say to try to maintain the fiction that the Stupak amendment was ever anything but a fig leaf to attempt to make palatable what was unpalatable, and to give supposedly Pro-life Democrats like Stupak cover.
I don't buy that this was ever anything but what it was, a false flag, a fig leaf, a spoonful of sugar to help the medicine go down; but they didn't even supply that at the last second. I don't see where anybody with an IQ above room temperature would think that this ever was anything but what it was, an exercise in allowing Pro-life democrats to vote for a bill that provided federal funds for abortion while saying “I never did!”.