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Stupak: It’s Not Just Abortion
wsj.com ^ | March 1, 2010, 5:35 PM ET | Janet Adamy

Posted on 03/01/2010 4:34:58 PM PST by RedMDer

In an interview today, Stupak said abortion isn’t the only issue that will keep him from voting for the Senate bill if Speaker Nancy Pelosi brings it to the House floor... A big concern among House members, Stupak said, is that they will be forced to vote on the Senate bill with no assurance the package of changes aimed at appeasing House members will ever get approved.

“You’re going to make members vote for a bill that’s going to be hung around your neck come Election Day,” he said. “After sending so much legislation to the Senate, we just don’t trust that they’re going to do it.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; abortion; bhoabortion; bhohealthcare; catholic; elections; obama; obamacare; politics; stupak

1 posted on 03/01/2010 4:34:58 PM PST by RedMDer
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To: RedMDer

It’s the deficits ... Wasn’t the basic premise of health care reform to make it cheaper and better. Seems like we have lost sight of that, haven’t we.


2 posted on 03/01/2010 4:36:17 PM PST by Tarpon ( ...Rude crude socialist Obama depends on ignorance to force his will on people)
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To: Tarpon

“It’s the deficits ... Wasn’t the basic premise of health care reform to make it cheaper and better. Seems like we have lost sight of that, haven’t we.”

What keeps getting ‘lost’ in all of this is that it’s a flat-out naked grab for power by the ‘Rats. They want to control every aspect of our lives from the cradle to the grave.

What better way to do so, than to co-opt 1/6 of our economy!

Nope. We’re dealing with socialists here. It’s all about destroying a free America and making us ALL dependent upon Mother Government.


3 posted on 03/01/2010 4:39:16 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.)
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To: RedMDer

Evil, or just Stupid?

October/November 2009, Health Care was stalled in the House, and the main sticking point was government funded abortions. There were enough Dems opposed to abortion who refused to vote for the HC bill if it contained any abortion language.

Representative Stupak (D) introduced his amendment that prohibited any government money from the HC bill being used to fund abortions. This essentially would end all abortions, as no medical procedures outside the Government HC System can be done. No going to a doctor and paying him directly for anything. Thus, with his amendment, ALL abortions would be illegal.

This amendment, if passed, would give the above ‘Pro-Life’ Democrats a green light to vote for the HC bill.

Not enough Democrats supported the Stupak Amendment for it to pass. Many Democrats were vociferously opposed to it. It could only pass with Republican votes.

National Right to Life favored the Stupak Amendment, and insisted that Republicans vote for it. Further, they threatened any Republican who didn’t vote for it with their active opposition to that Republican during this falls election.

The Republicans caved, even those who could see the eventual outcome, right down to the last man. One hundred percent voted for the Stupak Amendment, along with a bunch of Dems who were opposed to abortions. Stupak handily passed.

Nobody believed the Amendment would stick; eventually it would/will be overridden in some fashion. Abortion is the Prime Sacrament of the Left, and will not be denied government funding, let alone be made illegal.

With a green light, the ’Pro-Life’ Dems could vote for HC, and although many hard-line Leftists were angry, enough of them also could see the end game, and agreed to vote pass HC.

A couple days later HC passed the House.

Everyone knew how this would play out, and it did. Rush spoke about it on his show.

I am of the opinion even National Right to Life knew it would play out this way. I’m not aware of anyone who thought otherwise. That leaves us with two opinions of their leadership;

1. They are so locked into their ‘stop abortion at all costs’ viewpoint that they can’t operate with a strategy that goes beyond 24 hours. They Left likes to say that ‘conservatives are stupid and easily lead’, this situation is circumstantial proof that Leftists are right from time to time. I have called it the NRTL Stupid Strategy.

OR

2. They have been in cahoots with the Pro-Abort crowd on this, and were complicit in getting HC passed, HC which will include a monthly premium from all of us to fund abortions. I call it the Evil Strategy.

Either way, too stupid, or just evil, they are unfit to lead the movement to reduce/end abortions. Their thuggish actions have brought us to the brink of the enslavement of 300 million Americans, ending of the most advanced medical care in the entire history of the world, and will lead, ironically, to Chinese style government mandated and government funded abortions.

I am unaware of any other organization that played such a pivotal role against Americans in this HC fight.


4 posted on 03/01/2010 4:39:24 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

They need to take care of one little detail before they open the gulags ...


5 posted on 03/01/2010 4:40:52 PM PST by Tarpon ( ...Rude crude socialist Obama depends on ignorance to force his will on people)
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To: RedMDer

DeMint alone could probably add 3 months to this bill coming to a vote; what with all the delaying tricks availbale like reading the bill in its entirety several times along the way.


6 posted on 03/01/2010 4:46:29 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: All

It is a raw power grab and abortion is just part of the plan to control the population along with oppressive taxes.


7 posted on 03/01/2010 4:46:58 PM PST by RedMDer (Recycle Congress in 2010, 2012... Forward with Confidence! Forward!)
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To: Tarpon

True. I don’t plan on participating. Unless it’s against my will. Which could happen!


8 posted on 03/01/2010 4:48:15 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Except it cuts both ways; after having wasted a year of his Presidency on this Okenyan still isnt much closer to the light. ...Stupid like a fox, maybe.


9 posted on 03/01/2010 4:49:33 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: Nonstatist

‘DeMint alone could probably add 3 months to this bill coming to a vote’

Let’s hope the rest of the GOP in the Senate follow the lead of any senator that delays this POS.


10 posted on 03/01/2010 4:56:47 PM PST by RedMDer (Recycle Congress in 2010, 2012... Forward with Confidence! Forward!)
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To: RedMDer
BRING IT ON. Go ahead and vote for the jam down - WREKCONCILLIATION in the Senate will assure the GOP rout on Nov 2 2010.
11 posted on 03/01/2010 5:00:49 PM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“What keeps getting ‘lost’ in all of this is that it’s a flat-out naked grab for power by the ‘Rats. They want to control every aspect of our lives from the cradle to the grave.”

It would sure help if ONE REPUBLICAN SAID THIS ON TV!!


12 posted on 03/01/2010 5:04:01 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Why they won’t is beyond me. *Rolleyes*


13 posted on 03/01/2010 5:05:32 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Diana in Wisconsin

“What keeps getting ‘lost’ in all of this is that it’s a flat-out naked grab for power by the ‘Rats. They want to control every aspect of our lives from the cradle to the grave.”

It would sure help if ONE REPUBLICAN SAID THIS ON TV!!

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It’s time for regular Americans to run. This is going to be a very interesting primary season.


14 posted on 03/01/2010 6:30:30 PM PST by RedMDer (Recycle Congress in 2010, 2012... Forward with Confidence! Forward!)
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To: RedMDer; wagglebee; All

There was an AP story that 10 reps said they will vote for Obamacare, who originally voted no. Keep calling your politicians, PLEASE!


15 posted on 03/01/2010 7:57:36 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Sun

Will call, fax, email the whole drill. Per you tagline yes we are praying also. KILL THIS!


16 posted on 03/01/2010 8:01:05 PM PST by RedMDer (Recycle Congress in 2010, 2012... Forward with Confidence! Forward!)
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To: RedMDer

“Will call, fax, email the whole drill. Per you tagline yes we are praying also. KILL THIS!”

Thank you and God bless!


17 posted on 03/01/2010 8:08:05 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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