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by HANS ZATZKA
"Christ on the Mount of Olives "
Posted on 08/19/2021 6:20:41 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6
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Ch. 26 Then Jesus went with his disciples to a place called Gethsemane, and he said to them, "Sit here while I go over there and pray." He took Peter and the two sons of Zebedee along with him, and he began to be sorrowful and troubled. Then he said to them, "My soul is overwhelmed with sorrow to the point of death. Stay here and keep watch with me." Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, "My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will." Then he returned to his disciples and found them sleeping. "Could you men not keep watch with me for one hour?" he asked Peter. "Watch and pray so that you will not fall into temptation. The spirit is willing, but the body is weak." He went away a second time and prayed, "My Father, if it is not possible for this cup to be taken away unless I drink it, may your will be done." When he came back, he again found them sleeping, because their eyes were heavy. So he left them and went away once more and prayed the third time, saying the same thing. Then he returned to the disciples and said to them, "Are you still sleeping and resting? Look, the hour is near, and the Son of Man is betrayed into the hands of sinners. Rise, let us go! Here comes my betrayer!" | Ch. 14 They went to a place called Gethsemane, and Jesus said to his disciples, "Sit here while I pray." He took Peter, James and John along with him, and he began to be deeply distressed and troubled. "My soul is overwhelmed with sorrow to the point of death," he said to them. "Stay here and keep watch." Going a little farther, he fell to the ground and prayed that if possible the hour might pass from him. "Abba, Father," he said, "everything is possible for you. Take this cup from me. Yet not what I will, but what you will." Then he returned to his disciples and found them sleeping. "Simon," he said to Peter, "are you asleep? Could you not keep watch for one hour? Watch and pray so that you will not fall into temptation. The spirit is willing, but the body is weak." Once more he went away and prayed the same thing. When he came back, he again found them sleeping, because their eyes were heavy. They did not know what to say to him. Returning the third time, he said to them, "Are you still sleeping and resting? Enough! The hour has come. Look, the Son of Man is betrayed into the hands of sinners. Rise! Let us go! Here comes my betrayer!" | Ch. 22 Jesus went out as usual to the Mount of Olives, and his disciples followed him. On reaching the place, he said to them, "Pray that you will not fall into temptation." He withdrew about a stone's throw beyond them, knelt down and prayed, "Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done." An angel from heaven appeared to him and strengthened him. And being in anguish, he prayed more earnestly, and his sweat was like drops of blood falling to the ground. When he rose from prayer and went back to the disciples, he found them asleep, exhausted from sorrow. "Why are you sleeping?" he asked them. "Get up and pray so that you will not fall into temptation." |
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10 year old me asked preacher:
If the apostles were all asleep, how did they know what Jesus prayed?...................
“Gethsemane” means “Olive press”.
Olive presses crushed the olives with huge weight until every last drop of oil was squeezed out.
It is impossible for an artist to convey the whole experience of gethsemane, but they try.
What was his answer?
Every last drop of blood was squeezed from Jesus. It began oozing out in Gethsemane.
The ‘Holy Spirit’ .....................
Did his answer satisfy you at that time? How about now?
Yeah, it makes sense, even today...................
I agree fully.
That oughta do it....
That is the one AT Gethsemane. The trees there are over a thousand years old, but I think the Olive Press is a reproduction made of much older stones...so it could be of modern manufacture of ancient parts.
Trying to understand: appears to be about seven woven reusable flats, each containing olives.
27 says “Agony” pretty well
13 is very Interesting take on the scene
And 9 is interesting too. Are the figures floating around Representative of angels? or souls about to be freed?
45 is a right creepy painting. Unseen principalities depicted. It is said that when babylon is rebuilt, that demons Wil. Roam around the worked city streets in full brew of everyone, and the place Wil. Be so,wicked that folks won’t bat an eyelash over it. (Dr David Jeremiah preached a sermon. On it. Sadam actually began rebuilding Babylon, be,eiving himself to be a reincarnated nebuchadnezzar. He even had bricks made to rebuild with with the likeness of the king and himself on them. It was a fascinating sermon)
If I can get around to it, I’ll upload my attempt at st Philip today. I’m not quite done with it, but close. Having trouble with hands (I’m just not good at drawing hands even when using a grid to get general position right. )
Keep in mind also that I could only go by, and sample from, the colors in the painting that you posted awhile back, which I imagine were quite faded, and not as bright and vibrant as when it was first painted. But I am liking how it has come out so far (the cross is far from finished- ignore the color of it for now, that is the base color which I Wil. Overlay more ‘correct wood color onto, a.low8jg some of the more vibrant undercolor to show through in spots, hopefully giving it. More depth and ‘inner glow’ so to speak)
It’ll likely be either tonight I. This thread, or your next thread. I’ll try to get it uploaded to my site to ight though, so that,it’s ready to post
The crow/raven in the tree- the harbinger of death, and the tree seems to be almost half up-rooted in #18, and in #19 it is clearly split. Is that a dead dove near the up-rooted trunk?
I’ve read…you can see it in the ‘muscular’ rocks in both paintings, that Mantegna took what is called a ‘sculptural’ approach to painting. It’s very “solid” and actually quite dramatic imo, as are the cherubs and angel. I really like the angel-out-of-clouds in #19.
Now the rabbits, more numerical in #18 (even near Jesus), but one crossing a footbridge in #19…what do they symbolize? Normally I’d think fecundity…but that seems out of place in this particular agonizing/sweating blood scene…is Mantegna suggesting ‘life goes on’?
Re; sweating blood…#9, Ssali, and #27, Swindle, only ‘suggest it’, imo. I would be surprised if you couldn’t find plenty of artists who would highlight that dramatic event.
#30, Ricci, is beautiful and dramatic! #22, Bellini is very similar to Mantegna imo...eta, please answer the red courtesy phone :))
I don’t know the answer on #9. I’ve seen literally hundreds of her paintings, and this is the rare one I could even use—but actually understanding it is beyond me.
Babylon is receding rapidly in my rear-view mirror.
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