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N.C High Schools to Remove Pre-1877 U.S. History?
FoxNews.com ^ | February 3, 2010 | Molly Henneberg

Posted on 02/03/2010 7:09:53 PM PST by phi11yguy19

He may be the president who governed during the Civil War, freeing the slaves, but under a new curriculum proposal for North Carolina high schools, U.S. history would begin years after President Lincoln, with the presidency of Rutherford B. Hayes in 1877.

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To: phi11yguy19

Thank you for posting this article. I heard Glenn Beck speaking about this topic earlier today on radio, but I missed most of what he was referring to.

I am currently a student, and I attend a community college near Greensboro, NC. Last semester, I took two history classes: one an American History I course (up to 1877), and the other a Civil War class. In both classes, my instructor, a self-professed pacifist, Buddist, admirer of Howard Zinn and Fidel Castro, used his position to propagate leftist dogma, much of which had no relevance to our course subject matter. Whether it was bashing Sarah Palin, Karl Rove (and anything else related to Bush 43), Fox News, the Alaska oil industry, and anything else he saw as a threat to his “progressive” way of thinking, my teacher took full advantage of his chance to indoctrinate “young minds full of mush.”

At the time, I was unsure of my major and my future career path, but after last semester’s brainwashing sessions, I have decided to enter the education field as a history teacher. I plan to offer our future high school and college students a traditional, patriotic alternative to the revisionist, anti-American propaganda being spewed by our leftist history professors in academia. After I earn my Bachelor’s Degree, I plan to teach in the N.C. public schools, and ultimately I hope to return to my current college to teach.

It is a given that liberal ideologues hold a monopoly at today’s universities across this nation. At one small college near Greensboro, however, the plans of one radical leftist to brainwash future generations with lies and distortions may have backfired, as he may be forced to share the lectern with an opposing point-of-view within the next decade.


101 posted on 02/04/2010 3:12:48 PM PST by waterguard06
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To: boxlunch

easy solution

go on vacation to a place with history, I’ve took my kids to most of the major battle sites during the war of southern independence.
Got to Williamsburg, St Augustine FL our nations oldest city, Plymouth MA, the north end in MA etc etc etc

the family gets a vacation and a history lesson.

I’ve been studying history for nearly 30 years and even on TV when watching a movie I point the faults out of the movie and tell them what really happened.

Get movies like Gods and generals, Gettysburg and then ask the kids things like imagine how they feel just before they did the Picketts charge.

History needs to be taught because you can damn well know that most teachers to day do not teach factual history.

My oldest at 12 has corrected teachers with his knowledge and there was only one sub teacher who scoffed at him and believe me she was reported to as many people as I could report too.

teachers say they want parents help but when parents do get involved the teachers do not like it.
What teachers really mean is that they want parents help in raising money for the schools or on field trips etc but they hate parents to know what the teachers say to the kids.

For some public school might be the only option so then get as many parents as you know and talk to each other,
Back each other up over a teacher incident, go as a group to the school the next day and demand to see that teacher.
if more parents get involved the schools will have to listen


102 posted on 02/04/2010 3:18:49 PM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: ForGod'sSake
To be sure but even so, it's my recollection when American history was taught in government schools, the "lesson" was that the north was compelled to chasten the South because of the South's adherence to slavery. Total bunk of course but to this day I'm sure similar rationales are taught.

Yup, that's what they taught us too.

103 posted on 02/04/2010 3:33:17 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: phi11yguy19

I’m one of the people who will have to teach this mess if it becomes the state curriculum. I think there is a way to get it stopped- if enough people complain. Here’s a link to the page where the NC Department of Public Instruction (NCDPI) is providing the documents and is soliciting feedback. Enough bad feedback would probably do the job. As it is, there is plenty of ammunition in it for criticism. Check it out at:
http://www.ncpublicschools.org/acre/standards/phase2/


104 posted on 02/04/2010 3:53:37 PM PST by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: waterguard06

god bless you man! we all try to get though our day-to-day here while thinking of ways to change things, but you nailed it on the head. more people need to self-educate and then get back into the schools and TEACH so the next generation is stronger than the previous several.


105 posted on 02/04/2010 5:45:44 PM PST by phi11yguy19
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To: combat_boots

Excellent points. It’s also noteworthy that the very ones who should be the most wary of being (re)enslaved are falling all over themselves to get at the front of the line. There’s probably a lesson there somewhere.


106 posted on 02/04/2010 7:35:31 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: manc

Well, I wasn’t really asking for myself. We homeschooled and my kids are now in a classical Christian school where they do actually learn history. I’m just talking about the millions of kids all over the country who are being indoctrinated. I wish I knew what we could do about that.


107 posted on 02/04/2010 7:55:04 PM PST by boxlunch
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To: phi11yguy19
Fox has changed the headline a bit ...

North Carolina Schools May Cut Chunk Out of U.S. History Lessons

bttt

108 posted on 02/04/2010 7:57:29 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Liberty Valance

Ah, the wondrous stuff of enrichment class and special reports.

Think of all the people running around wondering how to stifle a discussion about....Billy the Kid & the Old West. Or how a person could homestead land.


109 posted on 02/04/2010 8:32:20 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

His Response?

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“Wow, you are exactly right....I have never heard it put that way before.”

I don’t know how anyone could have argued with it...totally logical point to me....


110 posted on 02/04/2010 8:41:35 PM PST by DrewsMum (Looking for the bumper sticker that says "My Child is an Honor Student, but my President is a Moron")
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To: phi11yguy19

Thanks for the encouragement, phillyguy19. I was lucky enough to have a conservative, traditionalist history teacher for three years in high school who taught me a thorough curriculum of American history without the revisionist non-sense. Plus, my advisor at college leans rights himself, so that too is a major advantage in our left-wing enclave. It is difficult being in the vast minority on campus with my viewpoint being the subject of ridicule and suppression. I choose for now not to make a big deal about the liberal bias at my school as I do have to consider retribution against my GPA by other instrutors, but I plan to lay low and get my “revenge” after I get my degree and after I gain employment with the state school system.


111 posted on 02/05/2010 4:05:22 AM PST by waterguard06
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To: phi11yguy19
I told my wife about this last night; she went prompt critical and through the roof! She's a historic program developer at Colonial Williamsburg, and feels just as strongly as I do about quoting Santayana on failing to learn from history.

The interesting part is, she's as far to the left politically as I am to the right. :-)

112 posted on 02/05/2010 4:20:17 AM PST by Jonah Hex ("Never underestimate the hungover side of the Force.")
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113 posted on 02/05/2010 4:56:37 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: phi11yguy19

Schools don’t teach students analytical thinking and healthy skepticism! No doubt malleability is more convenient for administrative purposes, as a result, they aren’t paying as much attention -oh well, is it summer yet?

Of course, an engineering degree is a good solution to that above.


114 posted on 02/05/2010 10:58:30 PM PST by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: boxlunch

. I wish I knew what we could do about that.


thought I has just told you what I thought we could do

go on vacations where history is.
talk about the movies you watch and tell kids how inaccurate or accurate they are.
Give them reading books.
go to places near where one lives and show them historical places and read signs.
talk about history.


115 posted on 02/06/2010 8:29:45 AM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: phi11yguy19
Che would approve.


116 posted on 02/07/2010 9:57:48 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (I support Checkbook Conservatives!)
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To: chopperman

I took US history 4 times, never got past World War I. But it’s the early part through the civil war which seems most important to me. To start in 1877 is ridiculous. The 20th century and current events need to be given more class time.


117 posted on 02/07/2010 10:03:24 AM PST by votemout
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To: chopperman

In 12 years of public education, I don’t think I ever had a day of history class.


118 posted on 02/07/2010 10:05:06 AM PST by gitmo (FR vs DU: n4mage vs DUmage)
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To: gitmo

I went to catholic schools in the 50s and 60s. Had US history in elementary, middle, and high school. Then for good measure a year in college. Had to learn about the World Wars and later on the history channel and from books.


119 posted on 02/07/2010 10:10:12 AM PST by votemout
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To: phi11yguy19

It makes sense in a very cynical way. The modern federal government was in place by then, and by not teaching our history up to that point the children will not know to ask how it happened.


120 posted on 02/10/2010 8:45:31 PM PST by willo
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