Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

Gods, Graves, Glyphs ^ | 7/17/2004 | various

[SunkenCiv]

• 14 Warring States (464-222BC) Tombs Discovered In Sichuan  ^ 6 posted on 07/15/2004 7:20:44 PM PDT by FairOpinion [#6]
• Achaemenid, Worldís First Empire to Respect Cultural Diversity  ^ 3 posted on 07/05/2004 6:45:53 PM PDT by FairOpinion [#3]
• Ancient European Remains Discovered In Qinghai (China)  ^ 27 posted on 07/06/2004 7:23:57 PM PDT by FairOpinion [#27]
• Archaeologists Dig Up World War II Plane  ^ 21 posted on 05/31/2004 9:46:55 AM PDT by farmfriend [#21]
• Archaeologists Reveal Utah Canyon Filled With Ancient Settlements  ^ 22 posted on 07/01/2004 9:37:46 PM PDT by FairOpinion [#22]
• Archaeologists Startled To Discover Neolithic Ritual Site (Scotland)  ^ 3 posted on 05/29/2004 5:41:16 PM PDT by farmfriend [#3]
• Archaeologists tackle China mystery  ^ 3 posted on 07/05/2004 6:43:37 PM PDT by FairOpinion [#3]
• Archeologists discover ancient graffiti on China's Great Wall  ^ 16 posted on 07/11/2004 7:44:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv [#16]
• Archeologists discover ancient graffiti on China's Great Wall  ^ 2 posted on 07/11/2004 4:19:46 PM PDT by FairOpinion [#2]
• Battlements Found At Egypt's Ancient East Gateway  ^ 5 posted on 07/01/2004 9:07:00 PM PDT by FairOpinion [#5]
• Bird's-Eye View Of The Amazon (Airborne Archaeologist Challenges The Myth Of A Pristine Wilderness)  ^ 32 posted on 05/31/2004 9:45:45 AM PDT by farmfriend [#32]
• Books, Magazines, Movies, Music  ^ 17 posted on 07/14/2004 12:02:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv [#17]
• Books, Magazines, Movies, Music  ^ 11 posted on 07/11/2004 9:53:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv [#11]
• Buddha's New Birthplace Discovered  ^ 24 posted on 05/26/2004 9:32:54 AM PDT by farmfriend [#24]
• Catapult-Makers Were Once Ye Olde Celebrities  ^ 4 posted on 07/05/2004 3:22:48 PM PDT by FairOpinion [#4]
• Caves Hold Clue To The Riddle Of The Three Hares  ^ 25 posted on 07/03/2004 4:45:03 PM PDT by FairOpinion [#25]
• China Publishes Research Results On Korguryo Kingdom Ruins  ^ 8 posted on 07/02/2004 6:40:49 PM PDT by FairOpinion [#8]
• China: Cemetery dig yields clues 3000 years ago(more on Western Zhou Dynasty)  ^ 9 posted on 05/28/2004 9:10:43 AM PDT by farmfriend [#9]
• Cooks' Crew Hid First Antarctica Painting  ^ 5 posted on 07/09/2004 7:14:36 PM PDT by FairOpinion [#5]
• Dig Under Manezh Yields Suprises  ^ 6 posted on 06/02/2004 2:46:35 PM PDT by farmfriend [#6]
• Drilling Finds Crater Beneath Va. Bay  ^ 16 posted on 06/01/2004 5:11:52 PM PDT by farmfriend [#16]
• Forgotten culture  ^ 21 posted on 07/04/2004 12:32:15 PM PDT by FairOpinion [#21]
• Fossil Findings Blur Picture Of Art's Birth (Neanderthals?)  ^ 18 posted on 07/09/2004 7:18:51 PM PDT by FairOpinion [#18]
• Georgian Archaeologists Discover Basilica Of Middle Ages  ^ 8 posted on 07/07/2004 9:03:00 PM PDT by FairOpinion [#8]
• Halls of Ancient Alexandria's Ivy Found  ^ 22 posted on 05/31/2004 9:47:50 AM PDT by farmfriend [#22]
• Humanity's Strange Face  ^ 19 posted on 05/25/2004 8:32:58 AM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.) [#19]
• Keeping Up With The Empire (Romans In Netherlands)  ^ 4 posted on 05/26/2004 9:28:27 AM PDT by farmfriend [#4]
• Macbeth's Castle Unearthed In Inverness Garden?  ^ 6 posted on 05/28/2004 1:08:34 PM PDT by farmfriend [#6]
• Major Excavation To Open Viking Graves  ^ 16 posted on 06/01/2004 5:17:35 PM PDT by farmfriend [#16]
• Medici's Secret Crypt Unearthed  ^ 4 posted on 07/11/2004 12:29:59 PM PDT by FairOpinion [#4]
• New Plan to Renovate Iran's Historical Cyrus Mausoleum  ^ 4 posted on 07/11/2004 4:11:14 PM PDT by FairOpinion [#4]
• New Twist On Out-Of-Africa Theory  ^ 64 posted on 07/14/2004 10:51:36 PM PDT by FairOpinion [#64]
• The Oldest Americans May Prove Even Older  ^ 3 posted on 06/29/2004 4:24:38 PM PDT by NukeMan [#3]
• Persepolis 3d [Virtual 3d tour Capital of Persian Empire]  ^ 5 posted on 07/11/2004 10:11:25 AM PDT by FairOpinion [#5]
• Pompeii Find Shows Secrets Of The Samnites  ^ 3 posted on 07/04/2004 5:49:47 PM PDT by FairOpinion [#3]
• The Poop On Ancient Man  ^ 4 posted on 07/02/2004 7:51:18 PM PDT by FairOpinion [#4]
• Quarries Providing Stone for Persepolis Discovered  ^ 3 posted on 07/11/2004 10:13:03 AM PDT by FairOpinion [#3]
• Rare Artifacts Shed New Light On Spanish Outpost On (Florida) Panhandle  ^ 4 posted on 07/11/2004 12:54:46 PM PDT by FairOpinion [#4]
• Rat DNA Clues To Sea Migration  ^ 5 posted on 06/08/2004 2:09:28 PM PDT by farmfriend [#5]
• Remains Of Colonial Teen Pose A 'History Mystery'  ^ 35 posted on 07/14/2004 10:53:24 PM PDT by FairOpinion [#35]
• Replica Of Roman Murder Victim (1,700 Years Old)  ^ 9 posted on 05/26/2004 10:37:34 PM PDT by farmfriend [#9]
• Scientist: DNA Disputes Russian Tsar Remains  ^ 4 posted on 07/14/2004 10:49:15 PM PDT by FairOpinion [#4]
• Signs of 8,000-year-old culture found near Bedford  ^ 34 posted on 06/08/2004 12:36:40 PM PDT by farmfriend [#34]
• Silk painting, brassiere unearthed from ancient tombs in N. China(1,000 year-old golden brassiere)  ^ 27 posted on 06/08/2004 12:18:58 PM PDT by farmfriend [#27]
• Sistine Chapel of the ice age revealed  ^ 15 posted on 07/14/2004 11:09:19 PM PDT by FairOpinion [#15]
• Star Chart In Ancient Nara Tomb To Under Go Restoration (Japan)  ^ 5 posted on 07/14/2004 10:45:25 PM PDT by FairOpinion [#5]
• Study: Dinosaurs Died Within Hours After Asteroid Hit  ^ 154 posted on 07/09/2004 7:21:14 PM PDT by FairOpinion [#154]
• Study: Dinosaurs Died Within Hours After Asteroid Hit  ^ 163 posted on 07/09/2004 11:08:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv [#163]
• Syria - Archaeological Finding (80K Year Old Human Sites)  ^ 3 posted on 05/29/2004 5:47:24 PM PDT by farmfriend [#3]
• Teeth Show How Society Was Shaped By Old Age  ^ 4 posted on 07/05/2004 6:40:46 PM PDT by FairOpinion [#4]

[SunkenCiv]

Gods, Graves, Glyphs -- Weekly Digest #10
PreColumbian, Clovis, PreClovis
Camisea Pipeline Unearths Ancient Peru Relics
	Posted by SunkenCiv On General/Chat 09/20/2004 11:03:24 PM PDT · 5 replies · 84+ views Reuters | Wed Sep 15, 2004 04:50 PM ET | Marco Aquino The construction of the 454-mile pipeline through the jungle and over the Andes to the coast has unearthed some 1,000 archeological sites from a range of civilizations across Peru that trace 9,000 years of history, archeologists say. The artifacts, which total 72 tons in weight, include mummies, textiles, jewelry, ceramics and weaponry that time and even the humidity of the jungle have been unable to destroy... One of the most exciting finds are the relics of the little-known Echarate culture, which lived some 3,300 years ago in today's Cuzco province
Dating Early Man in the Americas
	Posted by SunkenCiv On General/Chat 09/24/2004 7:40:14 PM PDT · 13 replies · 80+ views ASA Online (via the Web Archive) | March 2000 (ASA Bulletin, v22, i2&3 and v23,i1) | Roy J. Shlemon By 1997, some 80 earth-science specialists visited Monte Verde, many participated in the excavations, and still others collected samples and conducted laboratory analyses. The results are remarkable: now documented are 70 species of plants collected by Early Man, the remnants of mastodon meat, the remains of wooden canoes, mortars, and hundreds of stone artifacts including projectile points and cutting and scraping tools. Additionally, some 30 radiocarbon dates were obtained from abundant charcoal, wood and ivory found within the artifact-bearing strata. These dates indicate that Monte Verde was occupied about 12.5 ka ago, a full thousand years before Clovis (Meltzer, 1997).
First Americans - Homo Erectus in America
	Posted by SunkenCiv On General/Chat 09/24/2004 7:54:26 PM PDT · 9 replies · 83+ views home.pacbell.net | January 01, 1999 | Tom Baldwin (apparently) While the author of this webpage does not believe that Homo Erectus is responsible for the surface lithics found in the Calico Mountains of California, he does believe the presence of these lithics is quite important in establishing the fact that man was on this continent eons before those of the Clovis school are willing to admit. Once the door is thrown open to an earlier arrival date for man on this continent, then serious study will hopefully begin on the many early man sites to be found in both North and South America, but currently ignored because of their...
First Mariners
	Posted by SunkenCiv On General/Chat 09/25/2004 12:44:19 AM PDT · 2 replies · 33+ views Archaeology | Volume 51 Number 3 May/June 1998 | Mark Rose Mata Menge, however, produced a small number of stone tools, including some made of nonlocal chert, as well as remains of large stegodon, crocodile, giant rat, freshwater molluscs, and plants... Morwood dated the sites using a technique that analyzes individual zircon crystals from volcanic deposits. A sample from Tangi Talo, taken near a pygmy stegodon tusk and giant tortoise shell fragments, yielded a date of about 900,000 years ago. At Mata Menge, a sample from just beneath the artifact-bearing level dated to about 880,000 years ago, while another, taken above in situ artifacts, gave a date of about 800,000... Tools...
Pre-Inca Ruins Emerrging From Peru's Cloud Forests (Chapapoyas)
	Posted by blam On News/Activism 09/23/2004 8:09:38 PM PDT · 26 replies · 569+ views National Geographic | 9-16-2004 | John Roach Pre-Inca Ruins Emerging From Peru's Cloud Forests John Roach for National Geographic News September 16, 2004 On the eastern slope of the Andes mountains in northern Peru, forests cloak the ruins of a pre-Inca civilization, the size and scope of which explorers and archaeologists are only now beginning to understand. Known as the Chachapoya, the civilization covered an estimated 25,000 square miles (65,000 square kilometers). The Chachapoya, distinguished by fair skin and great height, lived primarily on ridges and mountaintops in circular stone houses. Sean Savoy, leader of the Gran Saposoa-El Dorado IV Expedition (July-August 2004), points out a stone...
Signs of an earlier American
	Posted by zide56 On News/Activism 09/24/2004 9:18:58 AM PDT · 30 replies · 539+ views The Christian Science Monitor | September 23, 2004 | Peter N. Spotts South Carolina dig could move habitation date back another 12,000 years.
The Solutrean Solution--Did Some Ancient Americans Come from Europe?
	Posted by SunkenCiv On General/Chat 09/24/2004 7:31:55 PM PDT · 1 reply · 43+ views Clovis and Beyond | 1999 | Dennis Stanford and Bruce Bradley Years of research in eastern Asia and Alaska have produced little evidence of any historical or technological connection between the Asian Paleolithic (Stone Age) and Clovis peoples. Also, the southeastern United States has produced more Clovis sites than the West, and a few radiocarbon dates suggest some of them may predate those in the western states. If correct, that hardly fits the notion that Clovis technology originated in northeast Asia or Alaska. Over the years, various scholars have noted similarities between Clovis projectile points and "Solutrean" points, the product of a Paleolithic culture on the north coast of Spain between...
Canyon Holds Ancient Civilization Secrets
	Posted by ckilmer On News/Activism 09/20/2004 11:16:15 AM PDT · 18 replies · 648+ views yahoo/AP | Mon Sep 20, 7:41 AM ET | PAUL FOY, Canyon Holds Ancient Civilization Secrets Mon Sep 20, 7:41 AM ET Add Science - AP to My Yahoo! By PAUL FOY, Associated Press Writer RANGE CREEK CANYON, Utah - The newly discovered ruins of an ancient civilization in this remote eastern Utah canyon could reveal secrets about the descendants of the continent's original Paleo-Indians who showed up before the time of Christ to settle much of present-day Utah. AP Photo Archaeologists estimate as many as 250 households occupied this canyon over a span of centuries ending about 750 years ago. They left half-buried stone-and-mortar houses and granary caches, and painted...
Utah Canyon Holds Secrets of Ancient Civilization
	Posted by Gucho On General/Chat 09/20/2004 1:44:35 AM PDT · 2 replies · 103+ views TBO.com Utah Canyon Holds Secrets of Ancient Civilization By Paul Foy Associated Press Writer Published: Sep 20, 2004 RANGE CREEK CANYON, Utah (AP) - The newly discovered ruins of an ancient civilization in this remote eastern Utah canyon could reveal secrets about the descendants of the continent's original Paleo-Indians who showed up before the time of Christ to settle much of present-day Utah. Archaeologists estimate as many as 250 households occupied this canyon over a span of centuries ending about 750 years ago. They left half-buried stone-and-mortar houses and granary caches, and painted colorful trapezoidal figures on canyon walls. "It's like...
China and Japan
2,000 Year Old Wine Found In Communist China
	Posted by bruinbirdman On News/Activism 06/22/2003 2:02:25 AM PDT · 13 replies · 94+ views BBC | June 22, 2003 | Jannat Jalil There is a saying that fine wine improves with age. But does this apply to a wine that is 2,000 years old. Well, archaeologists in China may soon be able to tell us. State media said that when Chinese archaeologists unearthed a large bronze jar in the Western city of Xi'an they discovered about five litres of light green rice wine inside. The jar shaped like a phoenix head was found in a tomb. One archaeologist was quoted as saying that the high purity of the wine indicated the owner was a nobleman. It is thought to date back to...
Clue Found To Uncover Mystery Of Gunpowder Invention
	Posted by blam On News/Activism 12/11/2003 1:18:43 PM PST · 18 replies · 196+ views Peoples Daily | 12-11-2003 Clue found to uncover mystery of gunpowder invention Chinese archeologists have found a large ancient saltpeter manufacturing base which they believe was used to manufacture gunpowder over 1,000 years ago. A team of archaeologists discovered last month a network of caves at the Laojun Mountain in southwestern China's Sichuan Province. Xu Xiangdong, leader of the expedition and former president of the Beijing Ancient Building Museum, said the caves were used to manufacture saltpeter, one of the major ingredients of gunpowder. In two caves, the remains of workshops and storage pits were discovered, while in another cave the team found four...
Japanese Shipwreck Adds To Evidence Of Great Cascadia Earthquake In 1700
	Posted by blam On News/Activism 11/03/2003 5:58:56 AM PST · 7 replies · 50+ views Science Daily | 10-31-2003 | U/W Source: University Of Washington Date: 2003-10-31 Japanese Shipwreck Adds To Evidence Of Great Cascadia Earthquake In 1700 Evidence has mounted for nearly 20 years that a great earthquake ripped the seafloor off the Washington coast in 1700, long before there were any written records in the region. Now, a newly authenticated record of a fatal shipwreck in Japan has added an intriguing clue. Written records collected from villages along a 500-mile stretch of the main Japanese island of Honshu show the coast was hit by a series of waves, collectively called a tsunami, on Jan. 28, 1700. Because no Japanese...
Epigraphy and Language
LATIN 1: THE EASY WAY
	Posted by SunkenCiv On General/Chat 09/25/2004 12:02:15 AM PDT · 6 replies · 88+ views Cherryh website | 1999 | C.J. Cherryh I used to teach this subject. I use a method that's a little different than the standard, a method aimed at results, not tradition, and no need to learn grammar at the outset, when you've got enough new things to learn. If you learned by the traditional method you may find this radically different; but trust me.
Ancient Egypt
Mummy Hair Reveals Drinking Habits
	Posted by blam On News/Activism 09/23/2004 7:24:12 PM PDT · 39 replies · 858+ views Discovery News | 9-23-2004 | Rossella Lorenzi Mummy Hair Reveals Drinking Habits By Rossella Lorenzi, Discovery News Sept. 23, 2004 Mummy hair has revealed the first direct evidence of alcohol consumption in ancient populations, according to new forensic research.The study, still in its preliminary stage, examined hair samples from spontaneously mummified remains discovered in one of the most arid regions of the world, the Atacama Desert of northern Chile and southern Peru. The research was presented at the 5th World Congress on Mummy Studies in Turin, Italy, this month. ì In modern human hair the levels would generally be in the ranges of social drinking, but we...
Ancient and Medieval Europe
In The Neanderthal Mind
	Posted by blam On News/Activism 09/22/2004 5:32:57 PM PDT · 32 replies · 510+ views Science News | 9-18-2004 | Bruce Bower Week of Sept. 18, 2004; Vol. 166, No. 12 , p. 183 In the Neandertal Mind Our evolutionary comrades celebrated vaunted intellects before meeting a memorable demise Bruce Bower Call a person a Neandertal, and no one within earshot will mistake the statement for a compliment. It's a common, convenient way to cast someone as a stupid, brutish lout. From an evolutionary perspective, the invective has no basis in truth, say archaeologist Thomas Wynn and psychologist Frederick L. Coolidge. This interdisciplinary duo, based at the University of Colorado in Colorado Springs, has drawn on a range of scientific research and prehistoric...
Malta's Magnificent Hypogeum
	Posted by SunkenCiv On General/Chat 09/21/2004 11:07:49 PM PDT · 2 replies · 78+ views The Cultured Traveler | May 2001 | Patrick Totty 5,600 years ago, patient Stone Age laborers gouged emptiness from solid living rock, fashioning a complex three-level interior that contains astounding textural detail. Covering a total of about 5,400 square feet, with its levels extending down about 35 feet, the Hypogeum was discovered by accident in 1902 near the center of the town of Paola... For about a 1,000-year span, the Hypogeum served as a necropolis, a city of the dead that eventually housed the remains of about 7,000 people. It was one of many megalithic structures strewn across Malta, built by a complex Neolithic culture that mysteriously disappeared around...
Viking burial ground dispels myth of longship marauders
	Posted by SunkenCiv On General/Chat 09/20/2004 11:11:40 PM PDT · 11 replies · 156+ views The Guardian | Tuesday September 7, 2004 | Lee Glendinning and Maev Kennedy The Vikings were buried within 10 metres (30ft) of each other. In the 1940s at Ingleby in Derbyshire a burial ground was found, but it held cremated ashes buried in earthenware pots, with few artefacts. The only other group of bodies found was a battlefield cemetery at nearby Repton. The Cumbria burials were completely different. These were clearly not the longship pirates of legend, but a settled, wealthy, peaceful community. Sir Neil added that the find provided rare evidence of Vikings as settlers who integrated into English life.
Columbus
The Egg Island theory (Where Did Columbus Make Landfall?)
	Posted by SunkenCiv On General/Chat 09/19/2004 12:21:10 PM PDT · 41 replies · 382+ views Amerion Internet Services | last updated: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 | Keith A. Pickering Egg island is a flyspeck of land (0.2 square miles) at the end of a string of small islands extenting west from the northern end of Eleuthera Island in the Bahamas. Along with its near neighbor Royal Island, Egg was proposed as the landfall in 1981 by Arne B. Molander, a retired civil engineer. Molander has been a tireless advocate for his theory since, although his efforts so far have failed to convince anyone that the idea has merit.
State Plays Orwellian with Columbus
	Posted by wagglebee On News/Activism 08/28/2004 3:13:16 PM PDT · 10 replies · 331+ views FrontPage Magazine | 8/26/04 | Robert Spencer George Orwell knew that if you can control a people's past, you can control its present; that's why in 1984 he has a whole government department ó the Ministry of Truth ó devoted to rewriting history. Now, twenty years beyond Orwell's nightmare year, we call the Ministry of Truth the State Department: in a press release issued Monday, ìIslamic Influence Runs Deep in American Culture,î Phyllis McIntosh of State's Washington File burbles that ìIslamic influences may date back to the very beginning of American history. It is likely that Christopher Columbus, who discovered America in 1492, charted his way across...
Catastrophism
A World Ruled By Fungi
	Posted by vannrox On News/Activism 03/30/2004 6:51:35 PM PST · 19 replies · 52+ views Science Daily | 2004-03-08 | Swedish Research Council The catastrophe that extinguished the dinosaurs and other animal species, 65 million years ago also brought dramatic changes to the vegetation. In a study presented in latest issue of the journal Science, the paleontologists Vivi Vajda from the University of Lund, Sweden and Stephen McLoughlin from the Queensland University of Technology, Australia have described what happened to the vegetation month by month. They depict a world in darkness where the fungi had taken over. It¥s known that an asteroid hit the Yucatan peninsula in Mexico at the end of the Cretaceous Period. It left a 180 km wide crater and...
Modern History
Did injured brain betray Red Baron?
	Posted by bad company On General/Chat 09/21/2004 6:24:41 AM PDT · 4 replies · 116+ views K.C.Star | Tue, Sep. 21, 2004 | ALAN BAVLEY Posted on Tue, Sep. 21, 2004 Did injured brain betray Red Baron? Trauma from earlier wound likely caused lack of judgment on fatal flight, psychologists say By ALAN BAVLEY The Kansas City Star The Associated Press An undated photo circa 1917 of the Red Baron, Manfred von Richthofen It's never been clear why the World War I German flying ace dubbed the Red Baron took the chances that got him killed one spring day in 1918. Now two retired U.S. Air Force psychologists think they have an answer: The Red Baron, Manfred von Richthofen, had suffered so traumatic a...
Red Baron brought down by a shot fired the previous year
	Posted by Land_of_Lincoln_John On General/Chat 09/21/2004 7:24:44 PM PDT · 5 replies · 115+ views Telegraph | September 22, 2004 | Roger Highfield A head wound suffered by the Red Baron the year before his death was the underlying reason he was eventually shot down, according to a study by neuroscientists. There has been endless speculation over who killed the 25-year-old First World War flying ace but the new study suggests that more credit is due to the British airman who grazed his skull in 1917 than to the Australian gunner who eventually brought him down in 1918. The killing machine feared by the Allies and revered by his countrymen suffered significant brain damage to his frontal lobes when a machinegun round fired...
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Gods, Graves, Glyphs -- Weekly Digest #11
PreColumbian, Clovis, PreClovis
Data: Columbus Might Be Buried in Spain ^
	Posted by wagglebee On General/Chat ^ 10/02/2004 12:33:39 PM PDT · 4 replies · 26+ views My Way News | 10/01/04 | DANIEL WOOLLS/AP MADRID, Spain (AP) - Researchers studying DNA from 500-year-old bone slivers said Friday that preliminary data suggests Christopher Columbus might be buried in Spain, rather than in a rival tomb in the Dominican Republic - but for now they cannot be sure. The team insisted it had reached no conclusion and more research was needed. But it said some DNA samples taken from bones that Spain says are the explorer's matched DNA from a body widely believed to be that of his brother, Diego. Both were unearthed in Seville over the past two years as part of a pioneering experiment...
Measure could block Kennewick Man study ^
	Posted by Bernard Marx On News/Activism ^ 10/01/2004 7:12:56 PM PDT · 55 replies · 511+ views Seattle Post Intelligencer via AP | October 1, 2004 | Matthew Daly WASHINGTON -- Scientists hoping to study the ancient skeleton known as Kennewick Man are protesting a bill by Colorado Sen. Ben Nighthorse Campbell that they say could block their efforts. A two-word amendment would change an Indian graves-protection law to allow federally recognized tribes to claim ancient remains even if they cannot prove a link to a current tribe. Scientists say the bill, if enacted, could have the effect of overturning a federal appeals court ruling that allowed them to study the 9,300-year- old bones.
Ancient Middle East
Flame of the Ancient Faith Still Flickers in Iran ^
	Posted by freedom44 On News/Activism ^ 07/15/2004 10:58:24 PM PDT · 17 replies · 275+ views Yahoo! | 7/15/04 | Christian Oliver CHAK CHAK, Iran (Reuters) - Zoroastrians say the sacred spring at Chak Chak, a shrine perched beneath a towering cliff face in the searing desert of central Iran, has lost none of its miraculous healing powers. "A 32-year-old Muslim came here as a last resort when he was dying from leukemia. I was not sure we should let a Muslim in but he insisted and spent the night here," said Goshtasb Belivani, a priest of Iran's ancient pre-Islamic religion. "During the night he was visited by a beautiful woman dressed in green who gave him sherbet to drink," he continued....
High-tech review confirms pedigree of early Bible source ^
	Posted by PetroniusMaximus On Religion ^ 09/28/2004 11:22:59 PM PDT · 21 replies · 278+ views The Denver Post | September 28, 2004 | John Noble Wilford High-tech review confirms pedigree of early Bible source.The words are among the most familiar and ecumenical in the liturgies of Judaism and Christianity. At the close of a worship service, the rabbi, priest or pastor delivers, with o!=nly slight variations, the comforting and fortifying benediction: "May the Lord bless you and keep you; may the Lord cause his face to shine upon you and be gracious to you; may the Lord lift up his countenance upon you and grant you peace."An archaeological discovery in 1979 revealed that the Priestly Benediction, as the verse from Numbers 6:24-26 is called, appeared to...
Solving a Riddle Written in Silver ^
	Posted by 68skylark On News/Activism ^ 09/27/2004 9:26:45 PM PDT · 23 replies · 757+ views New York Times | September 28, 2004 | JOHN NOBLE WILFORD The words are among the most familiar and ecumenical in the liturgies of Judaism and Christianity. At the close of a worship service, the rabbi, priest or pastor delivers, with only slight variations, the comforting and fortifying benediction: "May the Lord bless you and keep you; may the Lord cause his face to shine upon you and be gracious to you; may the Lord lift up his countenance upon you and grant you peace." An archaeological discovery in 1979 revealed that the Priestly Benediction, as the verse from Numbers 6:24-26 is called, appeared to be the earliest biblical passage ever...
Catastrophism and Astronomy
Explosions in the Sky: Supernovae Imminent? ^
	Posted by cogitator On News/Activism ^ 10/01/2004 12:59:05 PM PDT · 133 replies · 3,607+ views SpaceRef | 09/30/2004 | NASA After a Trio of Explosions Scientists say Supernova is ImminentThree powerful recent blasts from three wholly different regions in space have left scientists scrambling. The blasts, which lasted only a few seconds, might be early alert systems for star explosions called supernovae, which could start appearing any day. The first two blasts, called X-ray flashes, occurred on September 12 and 16. These were followed by a more powerful burst on September 24. The burst seems to be on the cusp between an X-ray flash and a full-fledged gamma ray burst, a discovery interesting in its own right. If these signals...
Recently Discovered Near-Earth Asteroid Makes Record-breaking Approach to Earth ^
	Posted by BenLurkin On General/Chat ^ 03/17/2004 10:05:44 PM PST · 15 replies · 144+ views NASA's Near Earth Object Program Office | Wednesday, March 17, 2004 | Steven R. Chesley A small near-Earth asteroid (NEA), discovered Monday night by the NASA-funded LINEAR asteroid survey, will make the closest approach to Earth ever recorded. There is no danger of a collision with the Earth during this encounter. The object, designated 2004 FH, is roughly 30 meters (100 feet) in diameter and will pass just 43,000 km (26,500 miles, or about 3.4 Earth diameters) above the Earth's surface on March 18th at 5:08 PM EST (2:08 PM PST, 22:08 UTC). (Close approach details here). On average, objects about the size of 2004 FH pass within this distance roughly once every two years,...
Modern History
Lucky Break: Study Finds Lewis and Clark Could Have Met Dire Weather ^
	Posted by shotokan On General/Chat ^ 09/30/2004 1:30:58 PM PDT · 18 replies · 128+ views ABC News | Sept. 29, 2004 | Lee Dye Sept. 29, 2004 ó If Meriwether Lewis and William Clark had set off on their historic expedition across what is now the northwestern United States a few years earlier, or a couple of years later, the dream of then-President Thomas Jefferson might have turned into a nightmare. The success of that venture contributed to the expansion of the West, based largely on glowing reports of lush, fertile regions where wildlife was abundant. But according to new research, Lewis and Clark were extraordinarily lucky. Unbeknownst to them, they had hit a narrow "window of opportunity" which created favorable images of the...
Epigraphy and Language
Phyrrus ^
	Posted by Jason Kauppinen On General/Chat ^ 09/26/2004 1:59:53 AM PDT · 6 replies · 117+ views Phyrrus of Epirus, Phyrric How does one pronounce Phyrrus and Phyrric is it PIE-rus, PYRE-rus, FEAR-rus...???
Origins and Prehistory
Human populations are tightly interwoven ^
	Posted by AZLiberty On General/Chat ^ 09/30/2004 11:17:34 AM PDT · 19 replies · 157+ views Nature | September 29, 2004 | Michael Hopkin The most recent common ancestor of all humanity lived just a few thousand years ago, according to a computer model of our family tree. Researchers have calculated that the mystery person, from whom everyone alive today is directly descended, probably lived around 1,500 BC in eastern Asia. Douglas Rohde of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in Cambridge and his colleagues devised the computer program to simulate the migration and breeding of humans across the world. By estimating how different groups intermingle, the researchers built up a picture of how tightly the world's ancestral lines are linked. The figure of 1,500...
Retracing the footprints of time ^
	Posted by SunkenCiv On General/Chat ^ 09/30/2004 7:56:25 AM PDT · 4 replies · 75+ views Alberta Report (via Web Archive) | September 9, 1996 | Steve Sandford In an otherwise unremarkable gravel bluff on the banks of the Bow River in Calgary, University of Alberta researchers Jiri Chlachula and Alan Bryan believe they have unearthed the remains of what could be the oldest human artifacts in North America, the pair announced this month. If substantiated, the discovery pushes back the known date of human settlement in North America by several thousand years. Other earth scientists are sceptical about the find's authenticity: U of A geomorphologist Rob Young describes it as "based only on pure speculation." ...Comments Prof. Young: "Any dude could have put that rock there."
The Olympics
Ancient Games were pagan entertainment package ^
	Posted by presidio9 On News/Activism ^ 07/23/2004 6:33:12 AM PDT · 11 replies · 690+ views Reuters | Fri 23 July | Paul Majendie From spectacular chariot races to bloody wrestling bouts, the Ancient Olympics offered the ultimate pagan entertainment package. Competitors had to swear an oath on a slice of boar's meat that they had not used magic to boost their performances. Runners making a false start were thrashed by the official whip bearer. Wrestlers could tear out their opponent's intestines -- but eye-gouging was banned. Prostitutes made a year's wages in five days at the Greek spectacular. Married women were forbidden to attend the GamesA where all athletes performed naked. That gave writer Tony Perrottet the perfect title for his entertaining look...
Ancient Greeks' Olympics Didn't Start Out In The Nude ^
	Posted by harrycarey On News/Activism ^ 08/19/2004 8:16:49 AM PDT · 15 replies · 500+ views AP | 8/19/04 Ancient Greeks' Olympics Didn't Start Out In The Nude POSTED: 8:23 am EDT August 19, 2004 UPDATED: 11:10 am EDT August 19, 2004 ANCIENT OLYMPIA, Greece -- The ancient Greeks may have been famous for competing in the nude. But they apparently didn't start out that way. Historian Lamros Lambracos says the earliest runners wore little skirts. In one race, he says, a runner lost his skirt and won the race. That ushered in the era of naked Olympics, he said. Lambracos, who has taught at New York University and the University of Athens, worked as a volunteer at the...
In ancient Greece, nudity was Olympic Games' great equalizer ^
	Posted by MikalM On News/Activism ^ 07/30/2004 6:18:16 PM PDT · 26 replies · 2,668+ views San Francisco Chronicle | 7/30/04 | Charles Burress Imagine Plato, a noted fan of ancient Greek athletics, providing color commentary for the upcoming Olympic Games: "Why in Zeus' name are they wearing clothes?" he might ask. The Olympics are returning to their original home in Greece next month but not to their original dress code. "This may be the most obvious and striking difference between today's athletes and the ancient Greeks," UC Berkeley archaeologist Stephen Miller says in "Ancient Greek Athletics," his new book on the ancient games. So embedded was competing in the nude that our word gymnasium comes from the Greek gymnos for "naked," Miller notes...
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Ancient Egypt
Abydos Royal Enclosures
	Posted by SunkenCiv On Bloggers & Personal 10/04/2004 6:52:20 AM PDT · 1 reply · 74+ views Francesco Raffaele | March, 4-7, 2003 | Francesco Raffaele Another important discovery by David O'Connor was the fleet of 14 boats found out of the E side of the Shunet ez-Zebib (yet probably earlier in date than it). These were housed in mudbrick casing (white washed) and probably poles/ pennants were inserted in this casing; a boulder perhaps symbolized their anchors. The length of the structures varied from nearly 20 to 27m. In one of the boats seal impressions were found (no royal name, but Early First Dynasty in style) which haven't been published yet.
Quarry, Setting and Team Marks: The Carian Connection
	Posted by SunkenCiv On Bloggers & Personal 10/08/2004 3:20:42 PM PDT · 1 reply · 2+ views University of Leiden (Netherlands) | 1998 | (about) Sheldon Lee Gosline In this paper, the author proposes some specific attributions for signs deriving from the Carian or another West-Anatolian script found on in situ blocks from standing walls: quarry, block positioning, or team marks. The proposals are based on data from three distant yet related sites where such marks have been preserved, among which the Khnum temple terrace on Elephantine. In time, however, the quarry marks at Elephantine do not correspond with the other two sites. Therefore, the author proposes that the terrace was built several hundred years earlier than the Graeco-Roman Period to which the terrace is usually dated, or...
Rome and Italy
Emperor Aurelian (Lucius Domitius Aurelianus)
	Posted by SunkenCiv On Bloggers & Personal 10/08/2004 6:55:02 PM PDT · 2 replies · 38+ views Illustrated History of the Roman Empire | circa 2000 | various The Alemanni, Juthungi and Marcomanni invaded the empire in force, before even the Vandals had finished withdrawing. Once more northern Italy had to endure a force of barbarians descending upon it from the Alps... Aurelian rushed back to... Placentia. But the legions were no match for the barbarians this time and Aurelian suffered a severe defeat (AD 271)... If Aurelian had suffered a setback, he was still far from beaten. The barbarians now made one crucial mistake. In order to cover more ground - and so reap more plunder - they split up their huge army into several smaller forces....
PreColumbian, Clovis, PreClovis
Early (Ancient) Hair Sample Raises Questions
	Posted by blam On News/Activism 07/14/2004 8:21:37 PM PDT · 28 replies · 999+ views Indian Country | 726-2000 Early hair sample raises questions Posted: July 26, 2000 - 12:00am EST WOODBURN, Ore. (AP) - Under a small Woodburn city park may lie the answer to who are the earliest Oregonians yet discovered. Scientists have found an ancient strand of hair in Woodburn's Front Street Park - a human hair that may have been left behind before modern American Indians settled in North America a few thousand years ago. The hair, found in a core sample during a June 1999 dig, could be one of the oldest found in the Western United States, said Alison Stenger, director of the...
The Skeleton in Armor
	Posted by SunkenCiv On Bloggers & Personal 10/08/2004 2:29:01 PM PDT · 3 replies · 47+ views Fall River Police Department / Fall River History | 1883 | History of Bristol County In the American Monthly Magazine for January, 1836, is a short article on the skeleton, then in the Fall River Athenaeum, portions of which we shall extract, not because the description is faultless, but because it is the account of one J. Stark who examined the remains for the purpose of describing them to the public. With Mr. Stark's speculations accompanying his description we have little concern. More facts and greater reflection would probably have led him to very different conclusions. He describes the skeleton as " the remains of a human body, armed with a breastplate, a species of...
Central Asia
Archeologists Unearth Remains of Genghis Khan's Palace on Mongolian Steppe
	Posted by Pharmboy On News/Activism 10/06/2004 6:04:21 AM PDT · 54 replies · 1,220+ views Associated Press | Oct 6, 2004 | Audrey McAvoy TOKYO (AP) - Archaeologists have unearthed the site of Genghis Khan's palace and believe the long-sought grave of the 13th century Mongolian warrior is somewhere nearby, the head of the excavation team said Wednesday. A Japanese and Mongolian research team found the complex on a grassy steppe 150 miles east of the Mongolian capital of Ulan Bator, said Shinpei Kato, professor emeritus at Tokyo's Kokugakuin University. Genghis Khan (c. 1162-1227) united warring tribes to become leader of the Mongols in 1206. After his death, his descendants expanded his empire until it stretched from China to Hungary. Genghis Khan built the...
Origins and Prehistory
Caveful of Clues About Early Humans: Interbreeding With Neanderthals Among Theories Being Explored
	Posted by SunkenCiv On Bloggers & Personal 10/05/2004 11:59:56 PM PDT · 12 replies · 142+ views Washington Post | September 20, 2004 | Fredric Heeren For the seven-member team, the hazards of reaching the site, accessible only by diving through frigid underwater passages, were worth it. Their finds may help answer some of the most hotly debated questions about early humans: Did they make love or war with Neanderthals? Were Neanderthals intellectually inferior to our human ancestors? ...The team included a Portuguese shipwreck diver and archaeologist, a French Neanderthal specialist, a Romanian cave biologist, and the three Romanian adventurers who discovered the human fossils while exploring submerged caves... [T]he ceiling lowered until they were forced, first, to swim on their backs and, finally, don...
New Evidence for Multiregional Origins
	Posted by sarcasm On News/Activism 09/05/2001 5:05:20 PM PDT · 30 replies · 167+ views Anthropology | Alec Christensen Part 1: The debate Over recent years, there has been a loud debate within palaeoanthropology over the origins of anatomically modern humans, or AMH. Opinions have polarized into two camps: Multiregional Evolution, or MRE, and Out-of-Africa, or OOA. The former group of anthropologists, including Milford Wolpoff and Loring Brace, argue that ever since members of the genus Homo first spread out of Africa, probably before 1 million years ago (mya), we have all been members of one species. The many different populations of humans were all subject to natural selection, and gradually evolved along similar lines. These different populations may ...
Our Species Mated With Other Human Species, Study Says
	Posted by ValerieUSA On News/Activism 03/06/2002 7:38:41 PM PST · 252 replies · 1,239+ views National Geographic | March 6, 2002 | Hillary Mayell A new piece of evidenceóone sure to prove controversialóhas been flung into the human origins debate. A study published March 7 in Nature presents genetic evidence that humans left Africa in at least three waves of migration. It suggests that modern humans (Homo sapiens) interbred with archaic humans (Homo erectus and Neandertals) who had migrated earlier from Africa, rather than displacing them. Ancient Origins In the human origins debate, which has been highly charged for at least 15 years, there is a consensus among scientists that Homo erectus, the precursor to modern humans, originated in Africa and expanded to Eurasia ...
Ten Lost Tribes
Abraham's Chromosomes?
	Posted by yonif On News/Activism 10/03/2004 6:45:44 PM PDT · 49 replies · 1,466+ views AISH | Sept. 2004 | Rabbi Yaakov Kleiman According to the written and oral traditions of the three major religions of the Western world, Abraham was a real person who lived in the Middle East nearly 4,000 years ago. According to each respective tradition, he was the first of the Fathers of the Jewish people, fathered the Arab nations and Islam, and laid the conceptual basis for Christianity. Tradition relates that he may have influenced early Eastern religion, as well.Abraham is the first to be called a Hebrew - Ivri -- one who passes over from one side to the other. He received this title because he actually...
British Israelism - an expose
	Posted by Destro On Religion 08/16/2004 11:42:28 PM PDT · 109 replies · 798+ views David M. Williams' Theological Essays | David M. Williams British Israelism - an expose OVERVIEW Anglo-Israelism (also known as British Israelism) is the unscriptural theory that Britain and the United States constitutes the 10 lost tribes of Israel who were carried away as captives by the Assyrians in 722 B.C. It is held by the advocates of this view that the Kingdom of Israel (consisting of ten tribes after their separation from the two tribes of Judah and Benjamin in the days of Rehoboam - I Kings 12:21) never returned to Israel after Assyrian captivity as did Judah and Benjamin after their 70 years' captivity in Babylon. The ten...
Eclipse Brings Claim Of Medieval African Observatory
	Posted by blam On News/Activism 12/04/2002 5:22:25 AM PST · 16 replies · 79+ views New Scientist | 12-4-2002 | Stuart Clark Eclipse brings claim of medieval African observatory 12:53 04 December 02 NewScientist.com news service Great Zimbabwe is a controversial site thought to have been a royal residence (Image: Corbis) Viewers of the total solar eclipse in Southern Africa early on Wednesday have also had their eyes opened by second startling event - newly released evidence that a medieval African site was an astronomical observatory. Starting just before 0600 GMT, the shadow of the Moon took 30 minutes to cross Africa from west to east, before heading over the Indian Ocean to make landfall in western Australia around 0900 GMT. In...
India's 'lost Jews' wait in hope
	Posted by missyme On News/Activism 08/19/2004 7:11:00 PM PDT · 597 replies · 3,442+ views BBC News | August 18th, 2003 | Geeta Pandey A team of senior Israeli rabbis is due to rule soon on whether thousands of Indians who say they are members of one of the lost tribes of Israel can settle there. Only 5,000 of the Benei Menashes have converted to Judaism Shlomo Amar recently led a delegation of rabbis to the north-eastern Indian states of Manipur and Mizoram where members of the Benei Menashe tribe live and practise Judaism. At the Beith-el Synagogue in the Manipur capital, Imphal, nine men wearing knitted skull caps read silently from the Old Testament. Four others stand on a wooden platform in the...
The Lost Tribes -- Where Are They Today?
	Posted by yonif On News/Activism 09/04/2004 9:19:56 PM PDT · 105 replies · 1,699+ views OHR | 28 August 2004 | Rabbi Yirmiyahu Ullman Regarding your question as to where the Lost Tribes were exiled, we saw in the previous installment that according to our sources they were exiled south to Ethiopia, and East through Syria, Iraq, Iran, and as far as India. [This should not be confused with those Jews who settled these lands much later, after the Exile in Roman times]. In addition, while discussing whether the Tribes will be re-united with the Jewish people in the future (which will be brought in detail in the next installment), Tiferet Israel (Sanhedrin 10:3) mentions that there are remnants of the Tribes living in...
The Ten Lost Tribes: The Case for Afghanistan, Kashmir, and Pakistan
	Posted by xzins On News/Activism 09/24/2001 8:53:22 AM PDT · 89 replies · 1,006+ views Moshiach.com | current | moshiach.com What follows is initial evidence that links some people groups in Afghanistan, Kashmir, and Israel. It is thought provoking. HOWEVER, IN POSTING THIS, LET ME ENCOURAGE THE INTERESTED TO GO TO THE WEBSITE AND READ "OVERVIEW" IN WHICH THE CASE AGAINST THE TEN LOST TRIBES IS PRESENTED. Also, note that the "people of the book" as Mohammed called them (Christians or Jews), who converted to Islam, were considered by him to be totally Moslem and totally acceptable. The two sections below deal with Afghanistan and Kashmir. The Ten Lost Tribes: Afghanistan The Bible mentions the city of Medes as one ...
What the Bible Says About Persia and Persians
	Posted by freedom44 On General/Chat 02/28/2004 4:16:41 PM PST · 13 replies · 64+ views Farsinet | 2/28/04 | Farsinet "In the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, in order to fulfill the word of The Lord spoken by Jeremiah, The Lord moved the heart of Cyrus king of Persia to make a proclamation throughout his realm and to put it in writing: "This is what Cyrus king of Persia says: "The Lord, The God of heaven, has given me all the kingdoms of the earth and He has appointed me to build a Temple [see Temples] for Him at Jerusalem in Judah. Anyone of his people among you - may his God be with him, and let him...
The Middle Ages
The Kadakkarapally Boat: An Ancient Sailing Barge in India
	Posted by SunkenCiv On Bloggers & Personal 10/09/2004 1:35:55 AM PDT · 1 reply Institute of Nautical Archaeology | 2003 | Ralph K. Pedersen Two maststeps, one amidships, and one double-socketed in the bow, indicate that this was a sailing barge. Its hull is divided into sections by bulkheads that either served to separate cargo or to stablize it. The bulkheads were not watertight.
The Real History of the Crusades
	Posted by dennisw On News/Activism 11/22/2003 4:23:29 PM PST · 60 replies · 221+ views crisismagazine | April 1, 2002 | Thomas F. Madden The Real History of the Crusades By Thomas F. Madden With the possible exception of Umberto Eco, medieval scholars are not used to getting much media attention. We tend to be a quiet lot (except during the annual bacchanalia we call the International Congress on Medieval Studies in Kalamazoo, Michigan, of all places), poring over musty chronicles and writing dull yet meticulous studies that few will read. Imagine, then, my surprise when within days of the September 11 attacks, the Middle Ages suddenly became relevant. As a Crusade historian, I found the tranquil solitude of the ivory tower shattered by...
Catastrophism and Astronomy
When the Days Were Shorter
	Posted by SunkenCiv On General/Chat 10/04/2004 10:31:59 AM PDT · 10 replies · 116+ views Alaska Science Forum (Article #742) | November 11, 1985 | Larry Gedney Present-day nautilus shells almost invariably show thirty daily growth lines (give or take a couple) between the major partitions, or septa, in their shells. Paleontologists find fewer and fewer growth lines between septa in progressively older fossils. 420 million years ago, when the moon circled the earth once every nine days, the very first nautiloids show only nine growth lines between septa. The moon was closer to the earth and revolved about it faster, and the earth itself was rotating faster on its axis than it is now. The day had only twenty-one hours, and the moon loomed enormous in...
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I want to thank you for reminding me of this thread and learning about yours!

THE HISTORY OF HERODOTUS
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/987210/posts

Years ago when I was studying opera their were many fragments of history that would appear in the lebretto's

I could sing the language and knew little about the language only what I could gather on my search.

America is suppose to have a free press but many of our books or ones we get from Europe are revised editions. More on that later.

What I mean when I was a child in the 1950's I had a good memory but had (vision trouble & dyslexia I hate to always bring this up) but it to understand what I am about to say!

They taught more indept history even in the lower grades and even had an option for honor students to learn one of the other 3 languages French, German, and Spanish and maybe Latin.

In those days I am sure used books stores were abundance in old vol of history and records of old world histroy!

than as time march on the course changed and the door closed to learning about another lanuage or even in English about old world history!

We have big generation gaps of knowledge those in school after the 60's have not clue what is omited or edited out of their world of understanding.

And those prior the 60's on the most part continue to think knowledge is simular to what they aquired in school.

Reflecting back was it just "An old boys club" the ratical were ridding or our ablitiy to surrive as a people and not grow stupid with this new agenda in the schools.

America had one of the finest Educational systems in the world and if our people go abroad they learn a Humanist mind and the Creator's mind is eliminted.

In the generations before me we had this Univeral code which came from the Great Classic many of us on some degree had an understanding an if a reference was made to it we all understood. Today you speak that languae and there is dead silence are a stare of what hell are you talking about!

America been snookered and robbed of her history the same thing happen to Europe years ago.

If we do not preserve an inpart this know to future generations no matter what race we as humanity will die!

Fast forward in the 70 I was studying opera and everyonce in a while I would get a glimps of old world history but could not fill in the gaps!

There is an old saying "Hisrory repeats itself if you forget from wenc you came!"

This one example of Jules Massenet opera "Herodiade" is about the Prophet John the Baptist.

The music is beautiful and at time powerful to translate inspite of lost record of history where he obtain the know to write this! As I seached I could not back track his inspiration for the work and what someone notes on this was weird!

It is true music does transend but I still long to the source for the original inspirition!

What ever it is is does varie from the scriptures knowing this would unturn so many stones!

Wagners Ring, Aida so many still have fragments of knowledge of our pass!

Google catch
Great Books and Classics - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
... Letter to Herodotus (c. 306-270 BC) Letter to Menoeceus (c. 306-270 BC ... German/English
HTML (Single page, 694KB) at Bob's World of J. Massenet (Translation by ...
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PS
We must treasure our older generation before they leave the earth to gleam from their minds viral knowlege for the preservation of mankind

Here in NYC the NYPost is promoting 15 of the old children classic to be had at $6 dollard each yet I wonder if those books were revised or a digest!

[restornu]

I was raised in East Detroit not called East Pointe

[SunkenCiv]

I remember when the name changed. Brilliant PR, eh? :')

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Excuse me my dex is very bad today I just read my post ouch!

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Gods, Graves, Glyphs -- Weekly Digest #13
Whatever our shortcomings were in recent weeks, we've all more than made up for it. :')
Ancient Egypt
Chinese ancestors came from Red Sea area?
	Posted by FairOpinion On News/Activism  10/12/2004 11:39:53 PM PDT · 10 replies · 301+ views China Daily News | Oct. 13, 2004 | China Daily News Amateur historian Su San has created an enormous controversy with claims of Chinese ancestors were from the Red Sea area and human civilization began in the Middle East and North Africa. These two stunning conclusions have been put forward in two recently published books, and critics and readers have wasted no time in their attack. "They call my books nonsense," says 40-year-old Su, a Henan Province native. "They just can't bear to think there's a Western ancestor for Chinese." With a bachelor's degree on English literature and a master's degree on economics, Su previously worked for a foreign company and...
Asia
Archaeologists Find A Wreck Of The Kamikaze (Kublai Khan)
	Posted by blam On News/Activism  09/08/2002 6:28:46 PM PDT · 17 replies · 182+ views Canada.com | 9-7-2002 Archeologists find a wreck of the kamikaze Vancouver Sun Saturday, September 07, 2002 Two ancient invasions on Japan were thwarted by mysterious storms that wiped out Mongol fleets. This 1896 painting depicts samurai battling Mongols during the first invasion, which was in 1274. In what marine archeologists are calling one of the greatest finds of all time, the remains of a ship that sank in one of history's largest sea battles has been located off the southern coast of Japan. Since last fall, Japanese archeologists have quietly worked beneath the waters off Takashima Island to retrieve the remains of a...
Archaeologists Find Silk Road Equal
	Posted by blam On News/Activism  06/12/2002 3:30:44 PM PDT · 23 replies · 95+ views CNN.com | 6-12-2002 <p>Local Ababda nomads dig in one of the streets in Berenike, which holds an array of artifacts that scientists say reveals an "impressive" sea trade between the Roman Empire and India.</p> <p>LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Spices, gems and other exotic cargo excavated from an ancient port on Egypt's Red Sea show that the sea trade 2,000 years ago between the Roman Empire and India was more extensive than previously thought and even rivaled the legendary Silk Road, archaeologists say.</p>
Archaeologists Unearth Wooden Coffins
	Posted by blam On News/Activism  12/04/2002 10:58:36 AM PST · 12 replies · 64+ views Taipei Times | 12-04-2002 Archaeologists unearth wooden coffins FANTASTIC FIND: Archaelogists working at a dig site in the Tainan Science-based Industrial Park have discovered a 5,000-year-old coffin and the skeletons of a couple "Each of [the wooden coffins] was 40cm long and 10cm wide. They are made of hardwood and are dark brown in color. We need further examination to determine the exact type of wood." Chu Cheng-yi, research fellow with the Institute of History and Philology of Academia Sinica A wooden coffin believed to be nearly 5,000 years old has been unearthed at an archaeological site in the Tainan Science-based Industrial Park in...
Ancient Greece
THE HISTORY OF HERODOTUS
	Posted by restornu On Religion  09/22/2003 12:29:49 PM PDT · 9 replies · 23+ views Ancient History Page | 440 BC | by Herodotus trans. by George Rawlinson The First Book, Entitled CLIO THESE are the researches of Herodotus of Halicarnassus, which he publishes, in the hope of thereby preserving from decay the remembrance of what men have done, and of preventing the great and wonderful actions of the Greeks and the Barbarians from losing their due meed of glory; and withal to put on record what were their grounds of feuds. According to the Persians best informed in history, the Phoenicians began to quarrel. This people, who had formerly dwelt on the shores of the Erythraean Sea, having migrated to the Mediterranean and settled in the parts...
Who Killed Homer?
	Posted by cornelis On News/Activism  09/26/2002 7:34:04 PM PDT · 25 replies · 58+ views Stanford Magazine | 1998 | John Heath and Victor Davis Hanson † Who Killed Homer? They were supposed to keep the Greek and Roman flame burning. Instead, the authors argue, today's classicists have trashed their own field, squandering the legacy that shaped Western civilization and destroying a noble profession. by John Heath and Victor Davis Hanson Related Articles:Two professors defending HomerRelated Site: Classics on the web This winter, a new crop of PhD students in classics will troop off to academic conferences in search of teaching posts. These would-be professors of Greek and Latin have done exactly what they were told and read precisely what was assigned. Most of them...
Columbus
Clueless About Columbus
	Posted by Jakarta ex-pat On News/Activism  10/17/2003 8:29:33 AM PDT · 16 replies · 88+ views The Washington Dispatch | 17/10/03 | Michael P. Tremoglie Columbus Day was the product of the Italian population of New York City, which organized the first celebration of the discovery of America on October 12, 1866. In 1869, the Italian ñ American population of San Francisco celebrated October 12, as Columbus Day. It was not until 1905, that a state, Colorado, observed a Columbus Day and in 1937 FDR proclaimed October 12 Columbus Day. Today Columbus Day is disparaged by liberal multiculturalists who distort the history of Christopher Columbus and has been since 1992. An October 2, 2003 post to the Portland Independent Media Center addressed the issue of...
The true identity of "Christopher Columbus" - Salvador Zarco, portuguese with some jewish roots
	Posted by Truth666 On General/Chat  02/17/2004 6:10:23 PM PST · 7 replies · 83+ views dighton rock | January 6, 1989. | Manuel Luciano da Silva, M. D. The American scholars continue to be brainwashed by the false name Columbus! Columbus means ìpigeonî, but the navigator was no pigeonÖ In the United States there is an economic conspiracy to continue with the name Columbus because of the many printed books, videos and other paraphernalia worthy in sales many millions of dollars! Like in so many fields of endeavor the TRUTH will come to the surface and eventually will triumph!! CristÛv„o Colon was the trade name of the discoverer. His natural name was Salvador Fernandes Zarco, born in the southern Portuguese town of Cuba, son of Isabel Gonsalves Zarco...
Was Columbus from Chios, Greece?
	Posted by Destro On General/Chat  10/11/2004 10:12:25 AM PDT · 5 replies · 49+ views magicaljourneys.com Was Columbus from Chios? Read Matt Barrett's review of the Book by Ruth G. Durlacher-Wolper Christophoros Columbus: A Byzantine Prince from Chios, Greece Was Columbus a woolworker from Genoa or a Byzantine Prince and sailor from the island of Chios in what was then the Republic of Genoa? There has been more written about Christopher Columbus than about any person with the exception of Jesus Christ, and yet his past has been shrouded in mystery. We all have been told that he came from Genoa, a city in Italy and sailed for Isabella and Ferdinand, the king and queen of...
PreColumbian, Clovis, PreClovis
Archeological Mysteries: Connecticut "Boat" Cairn
	Posted by Hellmouth On News/Activism  04/14/2002 5:53:03 AM PDT · 2 replies · 41+ views Science Frontiers Online | Mar-April 1987 | William Corliss CONNECTICUT "BOAT" CAIRN An unusual, large stone cairn is located atop Rattlesnake Hill in Connecticut's Natchang State Forest. At an elevation of 640 feet, it commands an almost 360? view. Its long axis is aligned with the Pole Star. The cairn seems to have been constructed according to some plan rather than just being a deposit of cleared stones. One's first impression is that it resembles a boat. Could it be a Norse "ship burial" such as found in Europe? It is impossible to prove such a conjecture without tearing the cairn apart. (Whittall, James P., II; "The 'Boat"...
Archaeologists Split Hairs Over First Arrivals (Oregon, 12K Year Old Non-Indian Hair)
	Posted by blam On News/Activism  10/17/2002 8:11:29 AM PDT · 29 replies · 101+ views The Guardian (UK) | 10-17-2002 | Sanjida O'Connell Archaeologists split hairs over first arrivals A site in Oregon could shake America's view of history, says Sanjida O'Connell Thursday October 17, 2002 The Guardian Woodburn is a small agricultural town in the US state of Oregon. Next to the high school is Mammoth Park. It sounds cheesy, but Mammoth Park is a paleoarchaeological site whose findings could shake America's view of her history. In suitably prosaic fashion, the site was discovered in 1987, when local authorities tried to install a sewer line. At depths of 5m, workers found huge bones, but said nothing and took them home. Now, Mammoth...
Area Sites Used To Dispute Clovis/Extinction Link
	Posted by blam On News/Activism  03/29/2003 5:00:52 PM PST · 11 replies · 31+ views Billings Gazette | 3-29-2003 | Mike Stark Area sites used to dispute Clovis/extinction link By MIKE STARK Gazette Wyoming Bureau It's time to stop pointing an accusatory finger at some of the earliest people in North America, researchers say. For decades, the Clovis people have been blamed for exterminating as many as 35 types of animals more than 11,000 years ago, including mammoths, mastodons, saber-toothed cats, camels and other mammals that roamed the continent during the Pleistocene era. A study published this month in the Journal of World Prehistory says there's no evidence that the Clovis people hunted big-game animals into extinction. "There's just absolutely no support...
Evidence Aquits Clovis People Of Ancient Killings, Archaeologists Say
	Posted by blam On News/Activism  02/25/2003 4:46:54 PM PST · 89 replies · 110+ views University Of Washington | 2-25-2003 | Joel Schwartz Contact: Joel Schwarz joels@u.washington.edu 206-543-2580 University of Washington Evidence acquits Clovis people of ancient killings, archaeologists say Archaeologists have uncovered another piece of evidence that seems to exonerate some of the earliest humans in North America of charges of exterminating 35 genera of Pleistocene epoch mammals. The Clovis people, who roamed large portions of North America 10,800 to 11,500 years ago and left behind highly distinctive and deadly fluted spear points, have been implicated in the exterminations by some scientists. Now researchers from the University of Washington and Southern Methodist University who examined evidence from all suggested Clovis-age killing sites...
Judge: Group Should Get Skeleton (Kennewick Man)
	Posted by Pharmboy On News/Activism  09/03/2002 6:03:39 AM PDT · 31 replies · 75+ views AP | 8-31-02 | William McCall PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) - More than six years after the discovery of one of the oldest skeletons ever found in North America, a federal judge overturned a decision to give the bones to Indian tribes for reburial and ruled that scientists can keep them for more study. U.S. Magistrate John Jelderks said he reviewed 20,000 pages of documents before concluding that "nothing I have found in a careful examination of the administrative record" supported the government's decision to give the bones to the tribes. Scientific study of the ancient skeleton will benefit all people, including tribes, by offering clues to...
Kennewick Man is awarded to scientists
	Posted by sarcasm On News/Activism  08/31/2002 12:30:40 AM PDT · 48 replies · 48+ views Seattle Times | August 31, 2002 | Eran Karmon After almost 10,000 years buried in the muck of the Columbia River, followed by six years in lab and museum vaults, the skeletal remains of Kennewick Man should be given to scientists looking for clues about how people first migrated to North America, a federal judge in Portland ruled yesterday. The ruling by U.S. Magistrate John Jelderks is a victory for eight anthropologists who fought the federal government's attempts to turn the remains over to a coalition of five Northwest tribes who want to rebury the "Ancient One." "We hung in there because we think these ancient remains are very...
Mexico Discovery Fuels Debate About Man's Origins
	Posted by blam On News/Activism  10/11/2004 6:04:15 PM PDT · 29 replies · 1,229+ views Deseret Morning News/Associated Press | 10-3-2004 | John Rice Deseret Morning News, Sunday, October 03, 2004 Mexico discovery fuels debate about man's origins Archeologists are baffled by hominid bones By John Rice Associated Press MEXICO CITY ó For decades, Federico Solorzano has gathered old bones from the shores of Mexico's largest lake ó bones he found and bones he was brought, bones of beasts and bones of men. Mexican professor Federico Solorzano shows the supraorbital arch from the fossil of an early hominid. Guillermo Arias, Associated Press The longtime teacher of anthropology and paleontology was sifting through his collection one day when he noticed some that didn't seem to...
National Museum of the American Indian a stunning showcase of history and culture
	Posted by Willie Green On News/Activism  09/21/2004 12:14:18 PM PDT · 111 replies · 1,146+ views The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette | Tuesday, September 21, 2004 | Karen MacPherson WASHINGTON, D.C. -- The National Museum of the American Indian opens today, a spectacular symbol of the cultural and political renaissance of the nation's "first people." With its sinewy limestone facade and prime spot on the National Mall, the 254,000-square-foot museum is a visually stunning showcase of 10,000 years of American Indian art, history and culture. More than 500 years after Indians' first, often disastrous contacts with Europeans -- and just a half-century after Congress passed a law trying to "terminate" tribes -- the museum offers American Indians "a prominent place of honor on the nation's front lawn," said W....
Pre-Columbian Ruins Could Be A Pyramid
	Posted by blam On General/Chat  03/29/2002 6:46:05 AM PST · 7 replies · 22+ views The News Mexico | 3-29-2002 Pre-Columbian ruins could be a pyramid EFE - 3/29/2002 Mexico's National Institute of Anthropology and History (INAH) this week confirmed having uncovered pre-Columbian ruins in the central state of Morelos that might be a pyramid or palace from the late Mesoamerican post-classical period (1200-1521). The find was made in February, when the owner of a property in the town of Tepotzlan was preparing to lay the foundation for a snack bar he hoped to build alongside the road and unearthed the ruins, the newspaper Reforma reported. Residents in the area alerted local officials, who called in scientists to inspect the...
Tribes, Archaeologists At Odds Over Cemetery
	Posted by blam On News/Activism  07/28/2003 5:04:55 PM PDT · 17 replies · 21+ views Houston Chronicle | 7-28-2003 | John Gonzalez Tribes, archaeologists at odds over prehistoric cemetery By John W. Gonzalez HOUSTON CHRONICLE Monday, July 28, 2003 VICTORIA -- Prehistoric human remains and artifacts discovered in one of the continent's oldest known cemeteries will undergo extensive analysis, despite complaints of grave desecration from several American Indian tribes. Federal officials say they hope to minimize destructive tests on the human bones and promptly rebury them when studies are complete, but tribes say they are considering legal action to halt further analysis. "These are our ancestors," said Walter Celestine of the Alabama-Coushatta Tribe in East Texas. After more than 18 months of...
Biology and Cryptobiology
Editorial on wolves
	Posted by Delphinium On News/Activism  11/03/2002 8:06:41 PM PST · 34 replies · 85+ views Central Idaho Anti-Wolf Coalition | August 3/2002 | John Nelson Dear Editor: This is a response to a pro wolf advocate stating that there has never been an attack by a "HEALTHY" wolf in North America, July 8,002 15 By Joy York, It has been widely discussed whether a healthy wild wolf has ever attacked a human on this continent. In fact, many say such attacks have never occurred in North America. HISTORY STATES OTHERWISE! It depends on which century you want to research wolves attacking and killing humans,1800's, 1900's or 2000's. Noted naturalist documented wolf attacks on humans. John James Audubon, of whom the Audubon society is named, reported...
When People Fled Hyenas
	Posted by VadeRetro On News/Activism  11/20/2002 6:43:45 PM PST · 48 replies · 196+ views ABC News | By Lee Dye When People Fled Hyenas By Lee Dye Special to ABCNEWS.com Nov. 20 ó Deep inside a cave in Siberia's Altai Mountains, Christy Turner and his Russian colleagues may have found an answer to a question that has hounded him for more than three decades. As a young anthropologist, Turner spent time in Alaska's Aleutian Islands in the 1970s, working at several archaeological sites and occasionally gazing westward toward Siberia. "I thought, 'That's the place that Native Americans came from,' " he says now from his laboratory at Arizona State University in Tempe. But why, he wondered then as he still...
World's Dogs Are Descended From Asian Wolves
	Posted by blam On News/Activism  11/21/2002 4:27:05 PM PST · 77 replies · 217+ views Ananova | 11-21-2002 World's dogs are descended from Asian wolves Scientists have found that almost all dogs share a common gene pool after analysing the DNA of hundreds of dogs from Europe, Asia, Africa and North America. They have concluded domesticated dogs originated from wolves in East Asia nearly 15,000 years ago. The animals travelled with humans through Europe and Asia and across the Bering Strait with the first settlers in America. Swedish and Chinese scientists studied the genes of 654 dogs and found a higher genetic diversity among East Asian dogs suggested that people there were the first to domesticate dogs from...
Origins and Prehistory
The Human Family Tree: 10 Adams and 18 Eves
	Posted by neverdem On News/Activism  10/10/2004 8:21:08 PM PDT · 71 replies · 1,946+ views NY Times | May 2, 2000 | NICHOLAS WADE May 2, 2000 The Human Family Tree: 10 Adams and 18 Eves Related Articles Genetics: Gene TherapyGenetics: Genetically Modified FoodsGenetics: The Human Genome ProjectThe New York Times on the Web: Science/HealthMapTracing Human History Through Genetic MutationsChartFollow the LineagesForumJoin a Discussion on DNA Research By NICHOLAS WADE he book of Genesis mentions three of Adam and Eve's children: Cain, Abel and Seth. But geneticists, by tracing the DNA patterns found in people throughout the world, have now identified lineages descended from 10 sons of a genetic Adam and 18 daughters of Eve. The human genome is turning out to be...
The Ultimate Creation vs. Evolution Resource (22nd Edition)
	Posted by Junior On News/Activism  05/11/2004 7:57:23 AM PDT · 53 replies · 263+ views FreeRepublic, et al. | 2004-05-11 | Junior, et al An almost, but not totally complete listing of every Free Republic crevo thread and the various links used therein from June 25, 1999 to the present. (Creationists) CRSC Correction (Ohio) State Panel Backs Disputed Lesson, Infuriates Supporters of Evolution (Science) Coolest Link I've Seen in Ages (Vanity) (U.S. Government Sanctioned) Academy Declines to Accredit Va. College ó Creationism Rule Cited [Icons of Evolution] Premiere Evolves into Protest 100 Scientists, National Poll Challenge Darwinism 12,000-Year-Old Human Hair DNA 120 or 180 Yrs Old? Experts Debate Limit of Aging 1999 Threads 20 Answers from an Evolutionist 20 Questions for Evolutionists 20 Ways...
Ancient Middle East
Alexander the Great visits tomb of Cyrus the Great
	Posted by freedom44 On General/Chat  06/12/2004 4:50:50 PM PDT · 8 replies · 51+ views Livius: History | 6/12/04 | Livius: History In January or February 324, Alexander reached the old religious capital of Persia, Pasargadae. Here, he visited the tomb of Cyrus the Great, the founder of the Achaemenid empire, who had lived two centuries before. The Greek author Arrian of Nicomedia describes the events in section 29.1-11 of his Anabasis. The translation was made by Aubrey de SÈlincourt. At the same time he moved forward himself with the lightest infantry units, the mounted Companions, and some regiments of archers, along the road to Pasargadae. [...] Arrived at the Persian frontier, he found that Phrasaortes, the governor, had died while the...
Archaeologists Seek Elamite Treasures In Iran
	Posted by blam On News/Activism  09/04/2002 10:02:59 AM PDT · 3 replies · 30+ views Tehran Times | 9-4-2002 Archeologists Seek Elamite Treasures in Iran ART & CULTURE DESK TEHRAN - The University of Sydney has initiated Australia's largest-ever act of cultural cooperation with Iran in the hope of unearthing archaeological treasures of the ancient Elamite civilization in the Near East. "Unlimited possibilities" lie ahead, according to professor Dan Potts, chair of Sydney's Department of Archaeology, who is posed to sign an agreement which would see the excavation of rich new archaeological sites in what is now Western Iran. The area and Elamite people are referred to in Mesopotamian texts but are yet to be researched in depth. Under...
Archaeologists Tout Major Find In Tyre
	Posted by blam On News/Activism  09/18/2003 4:53:56 PM PDT · 9 replies · 85+ views Daily Star | 9-18-2003 | Mohammed Zaatari Archaeologists tout major find in Tyre Mohammed Zaatari Daily Star correspondent A Japanese archaeological mission engaged in the excavation of Tyreís historical past for the last three years has discovered what could be the temple of the sun god once worshipped by the Romans. The archaeologists found a temple topped by a circle which depicts the sun. Small cultic figurines were found at the site, but as yet, no large statue has been found. Many of the Roman gods worshipped in the Eastern Mediterranean were identified with older, Phoenician gods, and their worship was frequently conducted on the sites of...
Archaeologists Unearth Tyre's Phoenician Roots
	Posted by blam On News/Activism  11/02/2002 3:59:00 PM PST · 5 replies · 44+ views The Daily Star | 11-2-2002 Archaeologists unearth Tyreís Phoenician rootsDig uncovers 12 burial jars Spanish archaeologists discovered a Phoenician cemetery containing 12 jars during excavations in Tyre on Friday, one of them reported. ìWe have discovered 12 earthenware jars of various sizes, filled with burned up bones and ashes at the southern entrance of Tyre,î Maria Eugenia Aubet told AFP. Aubet said her team ìhopes to find gold jewelry under the ashes, which date back to between the ninth and 10th century before Christ.î ìThe Phoenicians used to bury their dead in jars along with their jewelry after incinerating their bodies,î she said. The team...
"I'm not Arab, I'm Phoenician" -- a common phrase, but flawed concept
	Posted by Destro On General/Chat  02/19/2004 8:44:57 PM PST · 24 replies · 150+ views dailystar.com.lb | 09/02/04 | Peter Speetjens DS 09/02/04 ëIím not Arab, Iím Phoenicianí != a common phrase, but flawed concept It isnít always easy to live in the postmodern era. No absolute truths or morals to hang on to. The world is what you make of it and anything goes seem to be lifeís only principles. Consequently, your identity is not something that befalls upon you by birth, but something you are free to choose and construct, which can lead to rather bizarre results. Letís take as an example a young man I know. Born and bred in his beloved London, he has a British passport,...
The Periplus of Hanno, King of the Carthaginians, ed. Megalommatis, a Book Review.
	Posted by Muhammad Shams Megalommatis On Bloggers & Personal  06/20/2004 10:01:04 AM PDT · 18 replies · 126+ views The Books | 19/6/2004 | Muhammad Shamsaddin Megalommatis The Periplus of Hanno, King of the Carthaginians, ed. Megalommatis, a Book Review. By Muhammad Shamsaddin Megalommatis Published in Greek, in 1991 (STOHASTIS Publishing House, Athens - Greece), 112 p., the book consists in a historical presentation of the brief Carthaginian text that has not been saved in its original, but in an Ancient Greek translation. The text is very small, 656 words altogether, but the author made of it an entire book. One should stress the point that with this text starts the History of Morocco and the Western Coast of Africa down to Sierra Leone, since up to...
Phoenicians: Ancient Mariners
	Posted by SunkenCiv On Bloggers & Personal  10/12/2004 10:45:45 PM PDT · 1 reply · 51+ views National Geographic | October 2004 | Rick Gore Although they're mentioned frequently in ancient texts as vigorous traders and sailors, we know relatively little about these puzzling people. Historians refer to them as Canaanites when talking about the culture before 1200 B.C.†The Greeks called them the phoinikes, which means the "red people"óa name that became Phoeniciansóafter their word for a prized reddish purple cloth the Phoenicians exported. But they would never have called themselves Phoenicians. Rather, they were citizens of the ports from which they set sail, walled cities such as Byblos, Sidon, and Tyre.
Let's Have Jerusalem!
A judgment about Solomon Evidence supports Hebrew kingdoms in biblical times
	Posted by green team 1999 On News/Activism  04/13/2003 12:08:42 PM PDT · 9 replies · 75+ views San Francisco Chronicle | april-11-2003 | David Perlman, Chronicle Science Editor <p>Deep in the ruins of a Hebrew town sacked nearly 3,000 years ago by an Egyptian Pharaoh, scientists say they have discovered new evidence for the real-life existence of the Bible's legendary kingdoms of David and Solomon.</p> <p>The evidence refutes recent claims by other researchers who insist that the biblical monarchs were merely mythic characters, created by scholars and scribes of antiquity who made up the tales long after the events to buttress their own morality lessons.</p>
Archaeologists Uncover 12,000-Year-Old Settlement (Israel)
	Posted by blam On News/Activism  08/01/2003 7:52:42 AM PDT · 10 replies · 43+ views The Age.com | 8-1-2003 Archaeologists uncover 12,000-year-old settlement August 1 2003 Israeli archaeologists said today they had discovered a 12,000-year-old neolithic settlement west of Jerusalem which they believe is the largest of the period ever discovered in the Holy Land. The settlement, in Motza 5km west of Jerusalem, was home to 2,000 people and dates to 9,500 BC, Hammadid Khalife, head of the archeological team, told AFP. "We discovered a real treasure on the site consisting of 58 flint blades, found together, which at the time served as a kind of currency," Khalife said. "The origin of the stone and the way the blades...
Eastern Temple Mount wall may collapse
	Posted by Alouette On News/Activism  04/01/2004 7:12:59 PM PST · 17 replies · 31+ views Jerusalem Post | Apr. 1, 2004 | Etgar Lefkowits The eastern wall of Jerusalem's Temple Mount is in danger of immediate collapse because of damage caused by the February 11 earthquake, a classified government report issued this week concludes. The report, written by the Israel Antiquities Authority, has been distributed to senior ministers by Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's military attache, Brig.-Gen. Yoav Galant, officials said Thursday. The classified report, details of which were first published in Yediot Aharonot, says that the earthquake damaged the eastern wall of the Temple Mount to such an extent that sections of the wall are liable to cave in on the underground architectural support...
Has the Garden of Eden been located at last?
	Posted by Sabertooth On News/Activism  04/07/2003 2:39:28 PM PDT · 36 replies · 96+ views The Smithsonian | May 1987 | Dora Jane Hamblin †† Has the Garden of Eden been located at last? By Dora Jane Hamblin † By using an interdisciplinary approach, archaeologist Juris Zarins believes he's found it--and can pinpoint it for us. The author, a frequent contributor, met Dr. Zarins and his Eden theory when writing of Saudi archaeology (September 1983) and has followed his work since. †"And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed" (Genesis 2:8). Then the majestic words become quite specific: "And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence...
Ancient Europe
Archaeologists Unearth Britain's First Cave Pictures
	Posted by blam On News/Activism  06/15/2003 4:12:58 PM PDT · 24 replies · 104+ views The Guardian (UK) | 6-15-2003 | Robin McKie Archaeologists unearth Britain's first cave pictures Robin McKie, science editor Sunday June 15, 2003 The Observer (UK) Archaeologists have discovered 12,000-year-old engravings carved by ancient Britons in a cave in Creswell Crags, Derbyshire. The depiction of the animals - which include a pair of birds - is the first example of prehistoric cave art in Britain. The discovery - by Paul Bahn and Paul Pettitt, with Spanish colleague Sergio Ripoll - is set to trigger considerable scientific excitement, for it fills a major gap in the country's archeological record. 'If this is verified, it represents a wonderful discovery,' said Professor...
Archaeologists Unearth German Stonehenge
	Posted by blam On News/Activism  08/08/2003 4:32:56 PM PDT · 18 replies · 53+ views DW-World | 8-8-2003 Archaeologists Unearth German Stonehenge The 3,600-year-old bronze Nebra disc is considered the oldest-known image of the cosmos. German experts on Thursday hailed Europeís oldest astronomical observatory, discovered in Saxony-Anhalt last year, a ìmilestone in archaeological researchî after the details of the sensational find were made public.The sleepy town of Goseck, nestled in the district of Weissenfels in the eastern German state of Saxony-Anhalt shimmers under the brutal summer heat, as residents seek respite in the shade. Nothing in this slumbering locale indicates that one of the most significant archaeological discoveries of all times was made here. But this is indeed...
Europe's Oldest Wooden Staircase Found In Austria (3,000 Years Old)
	Posted by blam On News/Activism  10/13/2004 7:36:05 PM PDT · 49 replies · 1,067+ views AFP | 10-12-2004 Europe's oldest wooden staircase found in Austria Tue Oct 12, 1:05 PM ET Science - AFP VIENNA (AFP) - A 3,000-year-old wooden staircase has been found at Hallstatt in northern Austria, immaculately preserved in a Bronze Age salt mine, Vienna's Natural History Museum said. "We have found a wooden staircase which dates from the 13th century B.C. It is the oldest wooden staircase discovered to date in Europe, maybe even in the world," Hans Reschreiter, the director of excavations at the museum, told AFP. "The staircase is in perfect condition because the micro-organisms that cause wood to decompose do not...
World's Oldest Wheel Found In Slovenia, Claim Archaeologists
	Posted by blam On News/Activism  02/25/2003 4:58:59 PM PST · 30 replies · 76+ views Ananova | 2-25-2003 World's oldest wheel found in Slovenia, claim archaeologists Archaeologists claim to have unearthed the world's oldest wheel in Slovenia. Experts estimate that the wheel is between 5,100 and 5,350 years old. That makes it just 100 years older than the previous record-holders from Switzerland and southern Germany. The wheel, which is made of ash and oak, has a radius of 70 centimetres and is five centimetres thick. It was found buried beneath an ancient marsh settlement near the Slovenian capital of Ljubljana. Dr Anton Veluscek, from the Archeological Institute at the Slovenian Academy of Arts and Sciences, was part of...
Miscellany
Medici Family Murders Debunked In Italy
	Posted by blam On News/Activism  10/13/2004 8:07:07 PM PDT · 18 replies · 327+ views Discovery News | 10-11-2004 | Rossella Lorenzi Medici Family Murders Debunked in Italy By Rossella Lorenzi, Discovery NewsCosimo I Oct. 11, 2004 ó Scientists now exhuming the remains of several members of the Medicis, the family that dominated the Florentine Renaissance, have conclusively dismissed the theory of family murders, putting to an end to more than four centuries of speculation about a series of mysterious deaths in the clan. Since 1562, when Cosimo I's sons Garcia and Giovanni died five weeks apart, it has been rumored that Garcia stabbed the other and was himself run through with a sword by his furious father. Their mother, Eleonora of...
A Mormon confronts his myths: faces expulsion for refuting link between Indians and Israelites
	Posted by Polycarp On Religion  12/17/2002 6:38:14 PM PST · 427 replies · 80+ views National Post | December 03, 2002 | Jan Cienski A Mormon confronts his myths Anthropologist faces expulsion for refuting link between Indians and Israelites Jan Cienski National Post Tuesday, December 03, 2002 CREDIT: The Canadian Press Joseph Smith, founder of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, is said to have discovered a tablet that revealed American Indians were the descendants of ancient Hebrews. The assertion is contrary to historical fact. A Mormon anthropologist is facing excommunication after finding no genetic link between American Indians and the ancient Hebrews of Israel, questioning one of the central tenets of his church. Thomas Murphy conducted a review of the existing...
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Ancient Europe
Full Excavation Of Irish Viking Village?
	Posted by blam On News/Activism 10/20/2004 2:02:41 PM PDT · 27 replies · 562+ views Discovery News | 10-19-2004 | Rossella Lorenzi Full Excavation for Irish Viking Village? By Rossella Lorenzi, Discovery News Oct. 19, 2004 ó Preliminary work to build a bypass road in an Irish village has yielded what could be the most significant piece of Viking history in Europe: a virtually intact town that some have already called Ireland's equivalent of Pompeii. Evidence for the ancient settlement was discovered last year by archaeologists testing areas ahead of road builders. Located near the banks of the river Suir at Woodstown, five miles from the city of Waterford, the potential Viking town lies below pasture fields commonly used for horse grazing....
Kiln's 'Ancestor' Found In Greece
	Posted by blam On News/Activism 10/20/2004 2:11:40 PM PDT · 20 replies · 349+ views BBC | 10-20-2004 Kiln's 'ancestor' found in Greece The structures bridge the gap between kilns and stone hearths Archaeologists have discovered the oldest clay "fireplaces" made by humans at a dig in southern Greece. The hearths are between 34,000 and 23,000 years old and were almost certainly used for cooking by prehistoric inhabitants of the area. Researchers found remnants of wood ash and phytoliths - a type of plant cell - in these hearths and lab tests show the clay was burnt. The study appears in the latest edition of the scholarly journal Antiquity. The discovery helps to bridge the gap between the...
Neolithic ruins (6000 yrs old) found in Romania while building highway
	Posted by FairOpinion On News/Activism 10/19/2004 11:21:59 PM PDT · 13 replies · 384+ views Yahoo News | Oct. 14, 2004 | AFP BUCHAREST (AFP) - Construction workers for the US firm Bechtel found neolithic ruins which are more than 6,000 years old while building a highway in Romania, archeologists said. "It is a surprising discovery of great importance for the region," Ion Stanciu, who heads a team of archeologists, told AFP. He said the ruins consisted of a funeral stone, the remains of several houses from the bronze age, and pieces of pottery. "We are going to suggest to officials from Bechtel to consider building a museum to house these exceptional discoveries," Stanciu said. "We expect to find more ruins, perhaps the...
Roman roads in Britain
	Posted by SunkenCiv On Bloggers & Personal 10/16/2004 5:46:24 PM PDT · 5 replies · 104+ views Channel 4 | before 2004 | staff Ermine Street, the search for a stretch of which featured in the Cheshunt programme in the 2002 series, is far from being one of the longest Roman roads; those are to be found in mainland Europe. But it is one of the best known ñ and for the Romans, most important ñ in Britain. It linked London with Lincoln (passing through Ancaster, which also features in the 2002 series) before continuing on to the Humber, inland from the modern road bridge, at Winteringham. Long, straight stretches of it can still be plotted on a map; much the same route...
Epigraphy and Language
'Status' drives extinction of languages
	Posted by SunkenCiv On Bloggers & Personal 10/17/2004 12:45:37 PM PDT · 28 replies · 196+ views Australian Broadcasting Corp Online | Thursday, 21 August 2003 | Bob Beale The social status of a language is the most accurate way of predicting whether it will survive, argue researchers in a paper appearing today in the journal, Nature... "Thousands of the world's languages are vanishing at an alarming rate, with 90% of them being expected to disappear with the current generation," warned Dr Daniel Abrams and Professor Steven Strogatz, both of Cornell University in New York... The model is based on data they collected on the number of speakers of endangered languages - in 42 regions of Peru, Scotland, Wales, Bolivia, Ireland and AlsaÁe-Lorraine - over time. All have been...
PreColumbian, Clovis, PreClovis
Archaeologist Continues To Dig Up History (Meadowcroft, 16K Year Old)
	Posted by blam On News/Activism 10/17/2004 6:25:09 PM PDT · 10 replies · 471+ views Pittsburglive | 10-17-2004 | Majorie Wertz Archaeologist continues to dig up history By Marjorie Wertz For The Tribune-Review Sunday, October 17, 2004 In the past 30 years archaeologists worldwide have visited the Meadowcroft Rockshelter in Washington County. The general public can now see what's involved in the archaeological dig that has proved the existence of early humans dating back 16,000 years. "The site was opened last year for the first time to the public," said David Scofield, director of Meadowcroft Museum of Rural Life. "We are now in the process of getting an architect to create a design for a permanent roof over the excavation. This...
Finnish Find Sheds New Light On Prehistoric Andean Culture (Tiwanaku)
	Posted by blam On News/Activism 10/23/2004 4:03:27 PM PDT · 21 replies · 352+ views Tehran Times/AFP | 10-23-2004 Finnish find sheds new light on prehistoric Andean culture HELSINKI (AFP) - Ceramic artifacts found by Finnish archeologists during a dig in Bolivia have shed new light on the prehistoric Tiwanaku people, of whom little is known, Helsinki University officials said. "The discovery demonstrates that the Tiwanakus made the highest quality ceramics in the Andean region, with very naturalistic portraits, and thanks to this we now know what they looked like," Martti Paerssinen, a professor from Helsinki University who led the excavations, told AFP. The Tiwanaku people settled on the Bolivian side of Lake Titicaca in the Andean mountains around...
Kennewick man renains not protected
	Posted by djf On General/Chat 02/04/2004 12:12:38 PM PST · 49 replies · 41+ views KING5 The courts have rules that the remains of Kennewick man, a 9,000 year old apparent caucasian skeleton found on the north shores of the Columbia river in Washington state, are not protected by the Native Americans act and must be turned over for scientific examination.
Mysterious Pottery Shows True Face Of First Pacific Settlers
	Posted by blam On News/Activism 10/23/2004 2:48:19 PM PDT · 9 replies · 684+ views ABC Net | 10-23-2004 Mysterious pottery shows true face of first Pacific settlers Staring out from an ancient piece of pottery, the mysterious face of a bearded man has given scientists a unique glimpse of what the first settlers of Fiji may have looked like. Researchers say the "extraordinary discovery" is a vital clue in mapping out how the South Pacific came to be inhabited some 3,000 years ago, suggesting the first direct link to islands some thousands of kilometres away. Thought to be the work of the Lapita people - a long-lost race which originated near modern-day Taiwan then migrated to Polynesia -...
Romans in Brazil During the Second or Third Century?
	Posted by SunkenCiv On Bloggers & Personal 10/17/2004 7:47:13 PM PDT · 7 replies · 137+ views Mysterious Earth | June 20, 2003 | "Michael" This is a discovery that has received little to no examination, much less validation, from the realm of mainstream archaeology, no doubt in part because Marx is not a Ph.D. archaeologist. Scouring the web for more information about this finding, I did find a reference to the discovery in an article from Dr. Elizabeth Lyding Will, an expert on Roman amphoras (clay vessels used to store and ship goods during the Roman era). Dr. Will apparently has a piece of an amphora recovered from Marx's Brazil discovery. Of it, she says: The highly publicized amphoras Robert Marx found in the...
Ancient Greece
Deepest Wreck
	Posted by SunkenCiv On Bloggers & Personal 10/17/2004 8:40:36 PM PDT · 5 replies · 59+ views Archaeological Institute of America | March/April 2001 | Brett A. Phaneuf, Thomas K. Dettweiler, and Thomas Bethge The discovery of a 2,300-year-old shipwreck between the classical trading centers of Rhodes and Alexandria adds to the corpus of evidence that is challenging the long-held assumption that ancient sailors lacked the navigational skills to sail large distances across open water, and were instead restricted to following the coastline during their voyages. Four other possibly ancient wrecks lie nearby... Despite its depth, the site is typical for an ancient shipwreck. The vessel came to rest on the bottom and eventually listed over onto its side. In this case, the ship heeled over to port. As its wooden hull lost...
The Porticello Wreck: A 5th Century B.C. Merchantman in Italy
	Posted by SunkenCiv On Bloggers & Personal 10/17/2004 8:31:49 PM PDT · 1 reply · 32+ views Institute of Nautical Archaeology | on web, January 2003 | Cynthia Jones Eiseman Unquestionably the most exciting object from the wreck is the bronze bearded head (Fig. 1). From black glaze bowls and lamps recovered from the stern of the ship, we can fix the time of the ship's sinking to the last quarter of the 5th century. The bronze head must, then, have been made no later than some time late in the 5th century, although some scholars, seeing the sculpture out of its archaeological context, would have placed it in the 4th century... Sculpture formed only a small part of the cargo, which included in addition amphoras containing wine and possibly...
Ancient Middle East
Archaeology Team Helps Find Oldest Deep-Sea Shipwrecks
	Posted by SunkenCiv On Bloggers & Personal 10/17/2004 9:02:20 PM PDT · 3 replies · 78+ views Harvard Gazette | September 16, 1999 | Alvin Powell They were found 1,000 feet down in June by a team made up of Harvard archaeologists led by Lawrence Stager, Dorot Professor of the Archaeology of Israel, and a crew from the Connecticut-based Institute for Exploration, headed by oceanographer Robert Ballard. The ships are the oldest ever found in the deep sea and may change the understanding of ancient Mediterranean commerce. Because many shallow-water wrecks have been found, historians and archaeologists believed that ancient sailors preferred routes that hugged the coastline. Modern technology, however, is opening a new field of deep-water archaeology, which is showing that ancient sailors did indeed...
Calvin to show Petra exhibit
	Posted by SunkenCiv On General/Chat 10/16/2004 6:27:42 PM PDT · 7 replies · 97+ views Grand Rapids Press | Friday, October 15, 2004 | Matt Vandebunte (cont. by Jennifer Ackerman-Haywood) "Petra: Lost City of Stone" will be displayed from April 4 to Aug. 15. It will be the third American stop following its opening in New York and current stop in Cincinnati. To prepare for the exhibit, Calvin administrators plan to renovate the 2-year-old Prince Conference Center to include a museum-quality heating and cooling system, improved security and viewing spaces with special lighting... Bierling, an archaeologist, teacher and photographer, approached Calvin about sponsoring the multimillion-dollar exhibit that was turned down by other West Michigan venues, including the Van Andel Museum Center.
Quest for the Phoenicians (National Geographic special)
	Posted by SunkenCiv On Bloggers & Personal 10/17/2004 7:53:23 AM PDT · 10 replies · 87+ views PBS | Oct 20 2004 | National Geographic In "Quest for the Phoenicians," three renowned scientists, National Geographic Explorer-in-Residence and oceanographer Robert Ballard, geneticist Spencer Wells and archaeologist Paco Giles, search for clues about the Phoenicians in the sea, in the earth and in the blood of their modern-day descendents... Ballard looks at ancient shipwrecks along Skerki Bank off the island of Sicily... Paco Giles excavates a cave at the bottom of the rock of Gibraltar... Spencer Wells collects DNA from a 2,500-year-old Phoenician mummy's tooth, to extract its unique genetic code and compare it with DNA samples collected from men and women from Lebanon to Tunisia.
More Ancient Wrecks
Mindell has role in ancient shipwreck discovery
	Posted by SunkenCiv On Bloggers & Personal 10/17/2004 9:07:03 PM PDT · 1 reply · 43+ views Massachusetts Institute of Technology | Sept 10 1997 | Denise Brehm "These wrecks are absolutely pristine. Of course there is biological decay of the ship itself, but things are arranged exactly as they were the day it sank, with the same physical relationship between objects in the cargo holds," Professor Mindell said. The wrecks included five ships from ancient Roman times; one Islamic ship, probably medieval; and two sailing ships from the 18th or 19th century. The oldest wreck, about 120 feet long, had two cargo holds containing bronze vessels, at least eight types of amphorae for carrying foodstuffs, an array of kitchen and other household wares and two large lead...
The Shipwreck at Assarca Island, Eritrea
	Posted by SunkenCiv On Bloggers & Personal 10/17/2004 9:22:14 PM PDT · 5 replies · 50+ views Institute of Nautical Archaeology | Revised January 1996 | Ralph K. Pedersen, M.A. It is not known whether the wood fragments were wreck material, or if they were associated with the remains of a Stalin's Organ lying nearby. No other artifacts, including anchors, were found despite the digging of several small test pits approximately 15 cm. deep to determine the extent of the wreck. It is probable more artifacts lie under the sand, as well as concreted into the coral. My original opinion of the date of the pottery was 7th century...I believed, however, a date a few centuries earlier or later was also possible. Research has revealed that my initial dating...
Let's Have Jerusalem!
Three centuries before Christ's birth, people celebrated 25 December, archaeologists claim
	Posted by freedom44 On News/Activism 12/28/2003 10:32:36 PM PST · 8 replies · 72+ views Indepedent UK | 12/25/03 | David Keys Archeologists say they have traced the origins of the first Christmas to be celebrated on 25 December, 300 years before the birth of Christ. The original event marked the consecration of the ancient world's largest sun god statue, the 34m tall, 200 ton Colossus of Rhodes. It has long been known that 25 December was not the real date of Christ's birth and that the decision to turn it into Jesus's birthday was made by Constantine, the Roman Emperor, in the early 4th century AD. But experts believe the origins of that decision go back to 283 BC, when, in...
Asia
Ancient Pillboxes In Dainba (Tibet)
	Posted by blam On News/Activism 10/19/2004 7:46:57 PM PDT · 9 replies · 303+ views Tibet News | 10-19-2004 Ancient pillboxes in Dainba In Dainba County of Garze Prefecture, there are many °?skyscraping°± pillboxes. Dainba County is situated to the east of Khamba. It lies between Gonggar Mountain and Four-Girl Mountain, and is adjacent to Aba Prefecture°Øs Xiaojin County and Jinchuan County. On both sides of the Dadu River, there are lots of towering ancient pillboxes facing the boundless mountains and the tremendous strong winds by standing on those steep mountain slopes near to beautiful Tibetan villages. There are now nearly a thousand pillboxes still existing in Dainba County and more than 280 of them are the most intact...
Archaeologists Unearth 3,000-Year-Old Tombs In Northwest China
	Posted by blam On News/Activism 10/20/2004 1:55:02 PM PDT · 17 replies · 307+ views AFP/Yahoo | 10-19-2004 Archaeologists unearth 3,000-year-old tombs in northwest China Tue Oct 19, 1:19 PM ET Science - AFP BEIJING (AFP) - Chinese archaeologists are unearthing a group of tombs believed to be the family cemetery of the Duke of Zhou, a de facto imperial ruler who lived about 3,000 years ago, state media said. Big Screen Action The season's hottest new games, cool arcade classics, and handhelds you've got to have. Archaeologists discovered the group of 22 tombs in February at Qi Mountain in the northwestern province of Shaanxi. They cover an area of about 80,000 square meters (860,800 square feet), the...
China's Golden Age, Over Five Crucial Centuries
	Posted by blam On News/Activism 10/23/2004 3:19:37 PM PDT · 5 replies · 121+ views International Heral Tribune | 10-23-2004 | Souren Melikian China¬ís ¬ëGolden Age,¬í over five crucial centuries Souren Melikian International Herald Tribune Saturday, October 23, 2004 NEW YORK As they walk through the Metropolitan Museum¬ís ¬ë¬ëChina: Dawn of a Golden Age, 200-750 A.D.,¬í¬í many people will marvel at the new portrait of Chinese art and culture over five crucial centuries that comes across almost instantly. The myth of a monolithic, self-absorbed China is swept aside once and for all. In a gripping introduction (sometimes difficult to follow because it is so packed with information), James Watt, the Met curator who masterminded this unforgettable exhibition, describes the intermingling of the...
Origins and Prehistory
Ancient dung reveals a picture of the past
	Posted by SteveH On News/Activism 04/23/2003 9:41:25 AM PDT · 35 replies · 102+ views ABC Science Online (Australia) | 4/18/03 | Abbie Thomas News in Science 18/4/2003 Ancient dung reveals a picture of the past [This is the print version of story http://www.abc.net.au An arctic mound of soil covering a core of solid ice in northeastern Siberia (Pic: Science) The successful dating of the most ancient genetic material yet may allow scientists to use preserved DNA from sources such as mammoth dung to help paint a picture of past environments. An international research effort led by Eske Willerslev of the University of Copenhagen in Denmark reports in today?s issue of the journal Science it has extracted well preserved animal and plant DNA from...
Donkey DNA Shows African Asses Were First Tamed
	Posted by Junior On General/Chat 06/17/2004 1:06:21 PM PDT · 19 replies · 50+ views Science - Reuters | 2004-06-17 WASHINGTON (Reuters) - African wild asses were probably tamed not once but twice in locations far apart to become the willing donkeys that carry loads the world over, an international team of researchers reported Thursday. Their study of donkey DNA suggests that two separate female wild asses are the ancestors of today's domesticated donkeys. "Sparse archeological evidence from Egypt suggests that donkeys, like horses, were domesticated about 5,000 years ago," Albano Beja-Pereira of the French research institute CNRS in Grenoble and colleagues wrote in their report, published in the journal Science. "Exactly where this occurred is still unclear." They used...
Extinct humans left louse legacy (Homo Erectus and Homo Sapiens)
	Posted by TigerLikesRooster On News/Activism 10/16/2004 3:53:39 AM PDT · 26 replies · 529+ views BBC News | 10/06/04 | Paul Rincon Extinct humans left louse legacy By Paul Rincon BBC News Online science staff The evolutionary history of head lice is tied very closely to that of their hosts Some head lice infesting people today were probably spread to us thousands of years ago by an extinct species of early human, a genetics study reveals. It shows that when our ancestors left Africa after 100,000 years ago, they made direct contact with tribes of "archaic" peoples, probably in Asia. Lice could have jumped from them on to our ancestors during fights, sex, clothes-sharing or even cannibalism. Details of the research appear...
Astronomy and Catastrophism
The Dark Ages: Were They Darker Than We Imagined?
	Posted by blam On General/Chat 09/24/2002 11:18:33 AM PDT · 28 replies · 132+ views Universe | Sept 99 | Greg Bryant The Dark Ages : Were They Darker Than We Imagined? By Greg Bryant Published in the September 1999 issue of Universe As we approach the end of the Second Millennium, a review of ancient history is not what you would normally expect to read in the pages of Universe. Indeed, except for reflecting on the AD 837 apparition of Halley's Comet (when it should have been as bright as Venus and would have moved through 60 degrees of sky in one day as it passed just 0.03 AU from Earth - three times closer than Hyakutake in 1996), you may...
Roman Comet 5,000 Times More Powerful Than A-Bomb
	Posted by freedom44 On News/Activism 10/17/2004 3:36:42 PM PDT · 50 replies · 1,608+ views Scotsman | 10/17/04 | John von Radowitz People living in southern Germany during Roman times may have witnessed a comet impact 5,000 times more destructive than the Hiroshima atom bomb, researchers say. Scientists believe a field of craters around Lake Chiemsee, in south-east Bavaria, was caused by fragments of a huge comet that broke up in the Earthís atmosphere. Celtic artefacts found at the site, including a number of coins, appear to have been strongly heated on one side. This discovery, together with evidence from ancient tree rings and Roman reports of "stones falling from the sky", has led researchers to conclude that the impact happened in...
The Eltanin Impact Crater
	Posted by SunkenCiv On Bloggers & Personal 10/17/2004 9:46:13 PM PDT · 17 replies · 169+ views Geological Society of America | October 27-30, 2002 | Christy A. Glatz, Dallas H. Abbott, and Alice A. Nunes An impact event occurred at 2.15±0.5 Ma in the Bellingshausen Sea. It littered the oceanic floor with asteroidal debris. This debris is found within the Eltanin Impact Layer. Although the impact layer was known, the crater had yet to be discovered. We have found a possible source crater at 53.7S,90.1W under 5000 meters of water. The crater is 132±5km in diameter, much larger than the previously proposed size of 24 to 80 km.
Ice Age coming into Focus!
	Posted by cureforcancer On General/Chat 06/05/2004 2:32:35 PM PDT · 19 replies · 186+ views The Neutrino Report | 1995, 2004 | Robert Texas Bailey(Tex) "In 1990 they found that the Earth goes through abrupt temperature changes from deep ice samples in Greenland of about 10,000 years ago the Earthís temperature dropped 19 degrees" (research found by weather channel) taking 5-10 years (weather channel) but from analytical data, I intend to show this could take for the most part one year (Robert T Bailey) and more shocking a large part of the temperature change will happen this year! The End of the World as we known it is coming; an ice Age will change the face of the Earth. We have a crisis here. In...
Giant asteroid rocked Antarctica
	Posted by SunkenCiv On Bloggers & Personal 10/17/2004 9:26:51 PM PDT · 12 replies · 185+ views Near Earth Object Information Centre | 8/20/2004 | staff The collision happened around 870 000 years ago, a time when Homo erectus, manís early ancestor, was still roaming the planet. Molten asteroid slabs melted through more than 1.5 kilometres of ice and snow to reach the underlying bedrock... Billions of tons of ice, snow and rock would have been vaporised and thrown into the atmosphere. Rock particles that fell to the ground have been located more that 5 000 kilometres away in Australia. The impact was so immense that it is being considered as the cause of a reversal of the Earthís magnetic polarity around this time. One...
Small Comets and Our Origins
	Posted by SunkenCiv On Bloggers & Personal 10/19/2004 11:13:25 PM PDT · 37 replies · 178+ views University of Iowa | circa 1999 | Louis A. Frank Given the reality of the dark spots, which soon became known as "atmospheric holes" because of their appearance in the images, there is only one explanation which has endured over all these years to present. That is, the holes are due to the shadowing of the atmospheric light by an object above the atmosphere. This object simply cannot be a stony or iron meteor because the holes are very large, tens of miles in diameter. A rock of this size would provide a disastrous impact on the Earth's surface. As it turns out, water vapor is very good at absorbing...
Miscellany
Luther's lavatory thrills experts
	Posted by wagglebee On General/Chat 10/23/2004 12:38:21 PM PDT · 6 replies · 76+ views BBC News | 10/22/04 | BBC News Archaeologists in Germany say they may have found a lavatory where Martin Luther launched the Reformation of the Christian church in the 16th Century.The stone room is in a newly-unearthed annex to Luther's house in Wittenberg. Luther is quoted as saying he was "in cloaca", or in the sewer, when he was inspired to argue that salvation is granted because of faith, not deeds. The scholar suffered from constipation and spent many hours in contemplation on the toilet seat. 'Earthy Christianity'The lavatory was built in the period 1516-17, according to Dr Martin Treu, a theologian and Luther expert based in...
Medieval Houses Of God, Or Ancient Fortresses?
	Posted by blam On News/Activism 10/19/2004 5:52:31 PM PDT · 18 replies · 496+ views Archaeology | November/December 2004 | David Keys Medieval Houses of God, or Ancient Fortresses? Volume 57 Number 6, November/December 2004 by David Keys Cambridge archaeologist has redated the church of the archangel Gabriel, previously believed to have been carved from the rock at Lalibela, Ethiopia, around A.D. 1200, to between A.D. 600 and 800. The church may originally have been built as a fortress. (Courtesy Museum of Anthropology and Archaeology, Cambridge) Investigations in Lalibela, Ethiopia, are revealing that Africa's most important historical Christian site is much older than previously thought. Up until now, scholars have regarded the spectacular complex of 11 rock-cut churches as dating from around...
Victorian trousers left in personal 'time capsule'
	Posted by martin_fierro On General/Chat 10/22/2004 7:10:59 PM PDT · 15 replies · 236+ views AFP/Yahoo | Fri Oct 22, 1:34 PM ET Victorian trousers left in personal 'time capsule' Fri Oct 22, 1:34 PM ET LONDON (AFP) - Workers renovating a British theatre have uncovered a personal time capsule left the last time the building was spruced up, containing a letter and, more curiously, a pair of Victorian trousers. The note, written on March 6, 1901 by a man identifying himself as Frank Morrill, requests that the well-used workman's trousers be handed to a museum. The time capsule, also containing some tools, was found behind a ceiling panel this week at the 17th Century Sheldonian Theatre, part of Oxford University, a university...
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Ancient Europe
Golden treasures from Cornwall's past
	Posted by SunkenCiv On Bloggers & Personal10/24/2004 9:25:23 PM PDT · 5 replies · 86+ views Meyn Mamvro | prior to 2004 | Cheryl Straffon Perhaps the most famous gold object discovered in Cornwall is the magnificent cup made from corrugated sheet gold found in a cist in Rillaton barrow on the edge of Bodmin Moor (SX2603 7191), about a quarter of a mile NNE of the Hurlers stone circles. It was discovered in 1837 together with the skeleton of a man, a bronze dagger, pieces of ivory and glass beads (all now lost)... Patricia M. Christie in an essay entitled ìCornwall in the Bronze Ageî (Cornish Archaeology, 25. p.96) makes the intriguing suggestion that the cup may be connected to the Aegean, specifically the...
Epigraphy and Language
Coin From an 'Alien Civilization'
	Posted by billorites On News/Activism10/29/2004 4:09:29 AM PDT · 54 replies · 2,079+ views Arab News | October 29, 2004 | Staff † Al-JOUF, 29 October 2004 ó A Saudi newspaper yesterday reported the discovery of what it called a rare coin with unique features that belonged to an ancient civilization. The paper said the coin had an inscription in an unknown language that was not English. It described the coin as having a palm tree with eight branches, a woman sunbathing, a ship and a castle with a dome.According to the newspaper, the coin belonged to an ancient civilization that flourished in Al-Jouf. The strange thing is that the ìstrangeî coin, which the paper claimed had an inscription in an...
PreColumbian, Clovis, PreClovis
Vikings/Norse in Minnesota
	Posted by DoloresCobbPhifer On General/Chat10/26/2004 10:23:31 AM PDT · 7 replies · 92+ views freerepublic.com | 10/26-2004 | DoloresCobbPhifer Did the Vikings Stay... Vatican Files May Offer Clues. / How did the Swedes end up in Minnesota?
Vikings/Norse in Minnesota
	Posted by DoloresCobbPhifer On General/Chat10/26/2004 10:34:20 AM PDT · 2 replies · 64+ views freerepublic.com | 10/26/2004 | DoloresCobbPhifer Did the Vikings Stay... Vatican Files May Offer Clues. / How did the Swedes end up in Minnesota?
Let's Have Jerusalem!
The Cave Of Lot's Seduction And The Monestary It Inspired
	Posted by blam On News/Activism10/25/2004 7:59:47 AM PDT · 2 replies · 367+ views Daily Star | 10-25-2004 | Konstantine D. Politis The Cave Of Lot's Seduction And The Monestary It InspiredBy konstantine D. Politis Special to The Daily Star Monday, October 25, 2004The cave of Lot's seduction and the monastery it inspired Jordanian site of Deir Ain Abata testifies to a thriving Byzantine and Umayyad-era Christian community Amman: The ruins were first discovered during an archaeological survey at the south-east end of the Dead Sea in 1986, near a spring named Ain Abata. After further investigations it was evident that the site - near today's Ghor al-Safi, the biblical city of Zoara - was none other that the Sanctuary of Agios...
Offshore Find Dates To Kind David's Time Archaeologist Hopes 3,000 Year Old Wood Is From Ship
	Posted by blam On News/Activism10/28/2004 12:41:09 PM PDT · 13 replies · 587+ views Sf Chronicle | 10-28-2004 | Matthew Kalman Offshore find dates to King David's time Archaeologist hopes 3,000-year-old wood is from ancient ship Matthew Kalman, Chronicle Foreign Service Thursday, October 28, 2004 Hof Dor, Israel -- An archaeologist's dog may have discovered the first ship ever found from the period of King David and his son, Solomon, who ruled the holy land 3, 000 ago. The remains, which have been carbon-dated to the ninth century B.C., include a huge stone anchor believed to be the largest ever unearthed. The wreckage is lying under a few inches of sand off the Mediterranean coast in shallow waters, and has yet...
A Proverbial Heritage
	Posted by blam On News/Activism10/25/2004 7:45:22 AM PDT · 3 replies · 84+ views Al-Ahram | 10-24-2004 A proverbial heritage For 50 years, scholarship has tended to play down the interrelations between Ancient Egyptian culture and the religion of the biblical Hebrews. Jill Kamil argues it is time to re-open investigations Egyptian guards bring in pairs of Semitic prisoners (with long beards and heavy robes), their hands in long wooden manacles; the Pharaoh Akhenaten worshipping the solar orb as the creator and preserver of mankind; an Egyptian official receiving Semitic immigrants (tomb of Haremhab) Egypt is indisputably a part of the Biblical tradition. This much is clear, not only from the role the country plays in providing...
Asia
2,000-year-old 6ft 6ins warrior giant discovered
	Posted by vannrox On News/Activism07/31/2002 8:30:13 AM PDT · 46 replies · 136+ views ANANOVA post of BBC Report | Story filed: 10:01 Wednesday 31st July 2002 | BBC 2,000-year-old 6ft 6ins warrior giant discovered The remains of an enormous warrior who fought more than 2,000 years ago have been found in Kazakhstan. The soldier was heavily armed and stood around 6ft 6ins tall. Archaeologists believe he was well-built and revered by people who buried him with his weapons. The BBC says the warrior lived around the first century BC. Historians say this may lead them to re-examine the origins of the region's people.
7,000 Year Old Civilisation Site Needs Attention (Pakistan)
	Posted by blam On News/Activism10/26/2004 5:50:36 PM PDT · 11 replies · 275+ views Jang Group/The News | 10-26-2004 | Muhammad Ejaz Khan 7,000-year-old civilisation site needs attention By Muhammad Ejaz Khan QUETTA: Mehrgarh necropolis is one of the archaeological sites discovered in Balochistan during the last five decades, where a city had been buried for centuries under tons of earth. It tells us about the oldest human settlements in the South Asian region.The site, 140 kms southeast of the provincial capital, is located on the bank of the Bolan river near a settlement of Raisani tribe in the Bolan district. Archaeologists say it is one of the three oldest villages in the world, the other two being in Palestine and Iraq. French...
China Unearths Ancient Caucasian Tombs
	Posted by blam On News/Activism10/24/2004 12:43:53 PM PDT · 123 replies · 2,074+ views The Australian/AFP | 10-25-2004 China unearths ancient Caucasian tombs AFP October 25, 2004 BEIJING: Chinese archaeologists have started unearthing hundreds of tombs in an arid north-western region once home to a mysterious civilization that most likely was Caucasian, state media said Sunday. The researchers have begun work at Xiaohe, near the Lop Nur desert in Xinjiang region, where an estimated 1000 tombs await excavation, according to Xinhua news agency. Their findings could help shed light on one of the greatest current archaeological riddles and answer the question of how this isolated culture ended up thousands of kilometres from the nearest Caucasian community. The tombs,...
Origins and Prehistory
Dispute Over Classification Of New Species Of Prehistoric 'Human'
	Posted by blam On News/Activism10/30/2004 7:53:02 AM PDT · 25 replies · 412+ views ABC Net | 10-28-2004 | Alison Caldwell Dispute over classification of new species of prehistoric 'human' The World Today - Thursday, 28 October, 2004 12:22:00 Reporter: Alison Caldwell ELEANOR HALL: The discovery of the dwarf humans or hobbits, as we just heard one the scientists calling them, has generated enormous interest and excitement among anthropologists around the world. But not all of them agree with the Australian scientists that this is a new species of human. Jeffrey Schwartz, who is Professor of Anthropology at the University of Pittsburgh in the Untied States, says while the discovery is extraordinary, the creature is more like an ape than...
Hobbit remains found in Australia
	Posted by presidio9 On General/Chat10/27/2004 10:51:55 AM PDT · 154 replies · 2,980+ views Reuters | Wed, Oct 27, 2004 | Patricia Reaney Scientists in Australia have found a new species of hobbit-sized humans who lived about 18,000 years ago on an Indonesian island in a discovery that adds another piece to the complex puzzle of human evolution. The partial skeleton of Homo floresiensis, found in a cave on the island of Flores, is of an adult female that was a metre (3 feet) tall, had a chimpanzee-sized brain and was substantially different from modern humans. It shared the isolated island to the east of Java with miniature elephants and Komodo dragons. The creature walked upright, probably evolved into its dwarf size because...
Indonesia's Lost World: Shaking Up The Family Tree (More - New Human Species)
	Posted by blam On News/Activism10/29/2004 2:11:55 PM PDT · 32 replies · 455+ views Archaeology | 10-28-2004 | Davisd Keys Indonesia's Lost World: Shaking Up the Family Tree October 28, 2004 by David Keys Homo floresiensis skull (© Peter Brown) New archaeological discoveries by Australian and Indonesian scientists on the Indonesian island of Flores are revealing that until at least 13,000 to 12,000 years ago, modern humans--our species, Homo sapiens--shared this planet with a totally different species of human being--a three-foot-high dwarf hominid with physical features usually seen as dating from 1.5 to 4 million years ago. The scientists, mainly from Australia's University of New England and University of Wollongong, have found the skeletal remains of up to seven individuals...
Island of the Little People
	Posted by farmfriend On General/Chat10/29/2004 4:48:24 PM PDT · 4 replies · 50+ views Tech Central Station | 10/29/2004 | Jackson Kuhl Island of the Little People By Jackson Kuhl The impact on physical anthropology of the diminutive hominid Homo floresiensis cannot be overstated. The discovery in a rock shelter on the Indonesian island of Flores, announced in the October 28 issue of Nature, included a near-complete skeleton of an adult female found in close context with stone tools. Bones and teeth of seven other individuals were also uncovered. Standing three feet tall, floresiensis appears to be the result of "island dwarfing," wherein species isolated in resource-poor areas shrink over time so that their consumption needs are fewer. Archaeologists believe floresiensis, whose...
Scientists Find Prehistoric Dwarf Skeleton
	Posted by Borges On News/Activism10/27/2004 11:33:07 AM PDT · 47 replies · 1,006+ views Yahoo Science - AP By JOSEPH B. VERRENGIA, AP Science Writer In a breathtaking discovery, scientists working on a remote Indonesian island say they have uncovered the bones of a human dwarf species marooned for eons while modern man rapidly colonized the rest of the planet. AP Photo Missed Tech Tuesday? Is your PC possessed? Learn eight ways to repel the monsters: hackers intent on causing trouble One tiny specimen, an adult female measuring about 3 feet tall, is described as "the most extreme" figure to be included in the extended human family. Certainly, she is the shortest. This hobbit-sized creature...
Tiny new species of human unearthed - most important palaeoanthropological find for 50 years
	Posted by Truth666 On General/Chat10/27/2004 11:28:18 AM PDT · 41 replies · 701+ views newscientist. | 27 October 04 The remains of a tiny and hitherto unknown species of human that lived as recently as 13,000 years ago have been discovered on an Indonesian island. The discovery has been heralded as the most important palaeoanthropological find for 50 years, and has radically altered the accepted picture of human evolution. The female skeleton, known as LB1 - or by the nickname "Ebu" - has been assigned to a new species within the genus Homo - Homo floresiensis. Examination of the remains shows members of the species stood just 1 metre tall and had a brain no bigger than a grapefruit....
Miscellany
Lady Eleanor Talbot
	Posted by SunkenCiv On General/Chat10/24/2004 8:31:05 PM PDT · 7 replies · 63+ views Fact-Index.com | prior to today | Wikipedia No records survive of the meeting of the Parliamentary lords on June 9, 1483, where Stillington is said to have presented the evidence of the pre-contract, including documents and other witnesses. The Duke of Buckingham is supposed to have told Morton afterwards that he had believed that evidence when he saw it but had later changed his mind. When Henry VII of England came to the throne, he ordered all documents relating to the case to be destroyed, as well as the act of parliament by which Richard was enabled to claim the throne; so efficiently were his orders carried...
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