Posted on 07/04/2021 5:55:29 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6
TRANSFIGURED ON THE MOUNTAIN |
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17:1-13 After six days Jesus took with him Peter, James and John the brother of James, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light. Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus. Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good for us to be here. If you wish, I will put up three shelters—one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah.” While he was still speaking, a bright cloud covered them, and a voice from the cloud said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. Listen to him!” When the disciples heard this, they fell facedown to the ground, terrified. But Jesus came and touched them. “Get up,” he said. “Don’t be afraid.” When they looked up, they saw no one except Jesus. As they were coming down the mountain, Jesus instructed them, “Don’t tell anyone what you have seen, until the Son of Man has been raised from the dead.” The disciples asked him, “Why then do the teachers of the law say that Elijah must come first?” Jesus replied, “To be sure, Elijah comes and will restore all things. But I tell you, Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, but have done to him everything they wished. In the same way the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands.” Then the disciples understood that he was talking to them about John the Baptist. | 9:1-13 And he said to them, “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see that the kingdom of God has come with power.” After six days Jesus took Peter, James and John with him and led them up a high mountain, where they were all alone. There he was transfigured before them. His clothes became dazzling white, whiter than anyone in the world could bleach them. And there appeared before them Elijah and Moses, who were talking with Jesus. Peter said to Jesus, “Rabbi, it is good for us to be here. Let us put up three shelters—one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah.” (He did not know what to say, they were so frightened.) Then a cloud appeared and covered them, and a voice came from the cloud: “This is my Son, whom I love. Listen to him!” Suddenly, when they looked around, they no longer saw anyone with them except Jesus. As they were coming down the mountain, Jesus gave them orders not to tell anyone what they had seen until the Son of Man had risen from the dead. They kept the matter to themselves, discussing what “rising from the dead” meant. And they asked him, “Why do the teachers of the law say that Elijah must come first?” Jesus replied, “To be sure, Elijah does come first, and restores all things. Why then is it written that the Son of Man must suffer much and be rejected? But I tell you, Elijah has come, and they have done to him everything they wished, just as it is written about him.” | 9:28-36 About eight days after Jesus said this, he took Peter, John and James with him and went up onto a mountain to pray. As he was praying, the appearance of his face changed, and his clothes became as bright as a flash of lightning. Two men, Moses and Elijah, appeared in glorious splendor, talking with Jesus. They spoke about his departure, which he was about to bring to fulfillment at Jerusalem. Peter and his companions were very sleepy, but when they became fully awake, they saw his glory and the two men standing with him. As the men were leaving Jesus, Peter said to him, “Master, it is good for us to be here. Let us put up three shelters—one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah.” (He did not know what he was saying.) While he was speaking, a cloud appeared and covered them, and they were afraid as they entered the cloud. A voice came from the cloud, saying, “This is my Son, whom I have chosen; listen to him.” When the voice had spoken, they found that Jesus was alone. The disciples kept this to themselves and did not tell anyone at that time what they had seen. |
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Great posts, Hebrews 11:6.
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Dan
Outstanding! Happy 4th!
And to you, Alba!
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Happy Independence Day, Dan!
And to you, Mary-Lou! Are you at least going to ride your hog to the Old North Church and shout, “The British are coming! The British are coming!”?
Why Not? I used to be a Docent on the Freedom Trail back in the day, so I know my way around town.
A very difficult subject, which few were able to envision. The illustrators came closer, although with more pedestrian artistry. Love the Veronese, #17. Perfect for its setting, too.
As many more tomorrow, so you may find more to your liking. See if you can spot the one unlike all the others.
Have you noticed that in # 13, by Raphael, there are two events going on? Main one is the Transfiguration but the scene below the mountain has the crowd surrounding a man holding a possessed child. The apostles are not able to heal him and all wait from Jesus to come down and perform another miracle.
Eagle-eye Alba.
LOL! I can’t keep up with all these exorcisms...
Just be happy you won’t ever need one yourself.
I imagine that painting is quite magnificent in person. But as concerns the Transfiguration story, it didn't cut it for me, probably because of the feminized posture of the Christ figure, and the floating Moses and Elijah not visually separated enough from their backgrounds.
Several of the paintings in this group use that trope of floating in clouds in the sky to express divinity, but the scriptures say nothing about floating. The clouds mentioned in relation to God's appearances—such as when the Temple was finally built and suddenly the Glory of the Lord filled it as a cloud— seem to me to be more like smoke bombs, or a blurring of the vision of the viewer due to the presence of a much higher vibration of energy.
Even the Veronese I liked as a piece of art uses this "up in the clouds" symbolism, but pulls it off better than the rest, IMO. Translations differ; however, the one quoted here from Luke says the three were "standing." ("...when they became fully awake, they saw his glory and the two men standing with him. ) Peter suggested building shelters for them, so they must have appeared to him to have their feet on the ground.
That said, the bottom section of the painting is beautiful and the contrastiness of the lower half makes it luminous, but also with the "I'm a famous painter" touches we've discussed in past threads, like the semi-nekkid mother of the sick child featuring a coyly turned away side boob and her big Kardashian bum.
Ping to post 17
I’ve spent several hours today collecting images for the raising of Lazarus (for a month hence), and since seeing your critique of the artists’ almost universal failure to envision the transfiguration I couldn’t help measuring the Lazarus art by the same parameter. I think I can safely assert they did a much better job illustrating coming out of the earth than they did coming out of heaven.
In those days of either sunlight, oil lamps or candlelight, it would have taken real Spirit-guided inspiration for them to envision light the way we do, and can take for granted, since the rise of electric illumination, photography and computer generated imagery. So we must cut them some slack. They all learned the Bible, but only a handful understood.
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