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Obama to Propose Massive Greenhouse Gas Tax
Saturday, February 21, 2009 | Kristinn

Posted on 02/21/2009 5:36:16 PM PST by kristinn

Barack Hussein Obama will propose a massive business tax on greenhouse gases in his FY 2010 federal budget to be presented this week.

The massive tax increase and power grab was buried at the end on article on Obama's forthcoming budget proposal in The New York Times:

On energy policy, Mr. Obama’s budget will show new revenues by 2012 from his proposal to require companies to buy permits from the government for greenhouse gas emissions above a certain cap. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that the permits would raise up to $300 billion a year by 2020.

Since companies would pass their costs on to customers, Mr. Obama would have the government use most of the revenues for relief to families to offset higher utility bills and related expenses. The remaining revenues would cover his proposals for $15 billion a year in spending and tax incentives to develop alternative energy.

The proposal is in keeping with a policy announcement candidate Obama made in 2007, as reported then by The Times:

"No business will be allowed to emit any greenhouse gases for free," Mr. Obama said in Portsmouth, N.H. "Businesses don’t own the sky, the public does, and if we want them to stop polluting it, we have to put a price on all pollution."

Obama famously said in 2008 he would make American citizens' electricity rates skyrocket under his plan:

"What I've said is that we would put a cap-and-trade system in place that is more -- that is as aggressive if not more aggressive than anybody else's out there, so if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can, it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted.

"When I was asked earlier about the issue of coal, uh, you know, under my plan of a cap-and-trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.

Regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad, because I'm capping greenhouse gases, coal-powered plants, you know, natural gas, whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money, they will pass that money on to consumers. If you can't persuade the American people that, yes, there's going to be some increase in electricity rates on the front end, but that over the long term because of combinations of more efficient energy usage and changing lightbulbs and more efficient appliances, but also technology improving how we can produce clean energy, that the economy will benefit. If we can't make that argument persuasively enough, you -- you can -- you can be Lyndon Johnson, you can be the master of Washington, you're not gonna get that done."

Obama, of course, has no intention of persuading the American people, he's going to ram his Marxist agenda up their tailpipes.


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To: stboz
Viva la Revolucion!

About damn time, don't you think!

21 posted on 02/21/2009 5:44:41 PM PST by The Cajun (Mind numbed robot , ditto-head, Hannitized, Levinite)
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To: kristinn

Forget the politically deadly reparations, they are just going to use EVERY Federal agency to redistribute the wealth to their core constituency - the “Un-Taxed.” - in other words - “Democrat Voter.”


22 posted on 02/21/2009 5:45:15 PM PST by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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To: stboz
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,

–That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.>/b>

23 posted on 02/21/2009 5:45:34 PM PST by stboz
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To: kristinn
More unconstitutional wealth redistribution.

But then, someone has to pay for the Reparations Stimulus package.
.

24 posted on 02/21/2009 5:45:54 PM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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To: traditional1
On top of the burden of funding non-productive and irresponsible folks who will get all the benefit of my tax dollars, I can look forward to paying additionally for energy, which will incorporate their costs to meet the taxes they must submit to The Messiah and the Socialist crowd in D.C.

Didn't you hear about the wonderful tax break the Kenyan in Chief just gave you??? Geez...what're you gonna do, blow all of that $30 a month on other necessities?

25 posted on 02/21/2009 5:47:47 PM PST by digger48
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To: kristinn

I was invited by a friend to a lunch with a Democrat this week - an influential one. Six words sum it up:

Nationalize banks, gasoline tax, carbon tax.

That was on Tuesday. The whole agenda played out during the week.


26 posted on 02/21/2009 5:49:01 PM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: kristinn
Please consider asking your state legislature to call a constitutional convention to:

1. Ratification of an amendment repealing the 16th amendment.

2. Grant states sole responsibility for the collection of taxes from individual citizens and business except for tariffs.

3. Restrict congress from creating any law or taxes not specifically related to granted authorities as defined by the constitution.

Currently approximately 2/3 of the States are Red States. A 3/4ths majority is what would be required to ratify the constitution but it is doable!

The 16th amendment gave birth to the Federal Government monster and the states are the ONLY entity that can possibly reign in the feds.

If it can be repealed we will have a much better chance of stopping the destruction of America. As part of the act of repeal, congress may not create any law not specifically related to its constitutionally authority.

Now is the time. The polls indicate a very low congressional approval? Most everyone agrees that Congress has overstepped its mandate considerably.

Almost half of the state legislatures are considering or have representatives preparing to introduce resolutions which reassert the principles of the 9th and 10th Amendments to the Constitution and the idea that federal power is strictly limited to specific areas detailed in the Constitution and that all other governmental authority rests with the states.

Now is the time!!

27 posted on 02/21/2009 5:49:31 PM PST by Errant
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To: kristinn

All this crap will be passed onto customers. Wonder if all the Obamatons thought this is what they were voting for?

Turns out the hope and change from the campaign is turning out to be “I hope I have some change left” after Obama is done raping my wallet.

A new term from the Obama administration: Wallet rape. Say it with me: WALLET RAPE


28 posted on 02/21/2009 5:49:58 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: kristinn
Obama would have the government use most of the revenues for relief to families to offset higher utility bills and related expenses.

Oh I really believe that !

29 posted on 02/21/2009 5:51:05 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: M Kehoe
Green plants release CO2 during the night as part of normal respiration/metabolism of internally stored carbohydrates.
30 posted on 02/21/2009 5:51:09 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

LOL - to keep from crying!


31 posted on 02/21/2009 5:51:29 PM PST by Errant
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To: kristinn

What’s next? A fart tax?


32 posted on 02/21/2009 5:52:09 PM PST by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on the rights of animals would do so on behalf the unborn)
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To: hugorand
By the end of his term there will be cameras on every street corner to enforce his wacked out policies

Target rich environment.

33 posted on 02/21/2009 5:55:06 PM PST by The Cajun (Mind numbed robot , ditto-head, Hannitized, Levinite)
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To: kristinn

34 posted on 02/21/2009 5:56:01 PM PST by mylife (The Roar of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: LottieDah

See Section 1776 Para. 666.43 Subsection(z) of the above mention CC Act of March 2009 (or maybe April). It is included...


35 posted on 02/21/2009 5:56:08 PM PST by Errant
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To: kristinn
So if I'm reading this right, the "polluters" can continue "polluting" the planet as long as they pay the U.S. Government to do it? This is very reminiscent of the "big tobacco" scam. "Secondhand smoke" is supposedly killing people but it's okay to continue killing them as long as you pay a tax to the government to cover the costs of Communist healthcare.

Hey America! Time to wake up!

36 posted on 02/21/2009 5:56:15 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (The media lied, America died !)
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To: BenLurkin

It’s time to act. The time for talking is over.


37 posted on 02/21/2009 5:56:36 PM PST by steveyp
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We’re already *this close* to a tax revolt in this country. This would be the straw that broke the camel’s back...

2 years of Obama, people will have had enough of "change" that will result in a 60+ seat House landslide loss for the rats.

38 posted on 02/21/2009 5:58:01 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: kristinn

Crush those EEEVIL businesses! That will revive the economy.


39 posted on 02/21/2009 5:58:26 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (What's Obama's Secret?)
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To: Errant

Can see that the piddly “Tax relief” they’re supposedly putting in pay checks is going to go a long way toward paying that $5000...and the 101 other taxes 0’s gonna dump on us.


40 posted on 02/21/2009 5:58:38 PM PST by madison10
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