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Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)
Israel Insider ^ | 3 July 2008 | Reuven Koret

Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom

Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.

The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.

The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.

Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.

McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.

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To: WOSG
Sullivan’s steak house dinner in Austin on me if this actually pans out (this if for N&V only, since he’s a sport). Will you pick up the tab if it doesnt?

If by pans out you mean that definitive proof of the birth certificate forgery comes to the fore, sure.

We don't have a Sullivan's here. I'm partial to The Outback, though...

3,461 posted on 07/14/2008 11:55:00 AM PDT by null and void (Give a hoot - don't vote for Toot! I know Desmond Tutu and Barry Toot Toot is no Tutu...)
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To: null and void

“I can show you at least a hundred people within a few block of my house who were never naturalized. We call them illegal aliens.”

And if any of them has US Passports and get elected to Congress that would be quite the story!

“Living openly in America, with no naturalization documents certainly doesn’t prove citizenship.”
That’s why the fact that Obama has had a passport for many years has some relevance. His acquisition of a passport was a prior vetting process that vouches for his citizenship.


3,462 posted on 07/14/2008 11:55:52 AM PDT by WOSG (http://no-bama.blogspot.com/ - NObama, stop the Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: WOSG

*hangs head*

Yeah. I should have checked the link before I shot off my mouff.


3,463 posted on 07/14/2008 11:56:22 AM PDT by null and void (Give a hoot - don't vote for Toot! I know Desmond Tutu and Barry Toot Toot is no Tutu...)
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To: David
"If his parents were not married, why did Stanley Ann spend several thousand dollars getting a divorce? Signed under oath that she was married?"

Where is the proof of that. Some Hawaiian congressman who was a friend of the Dunham's?

I want a filing number.

3,464 posted on 07/14/2008 12:00:29 PM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: WOSG

Frankly, I wouldn’t be the slightest bit surprised to find that there are illegal alien holders of elected offices in California.

Senator is a pretty high bar, though.

I don’t have as much confidence in the vetting process, especially the one in effect 20+ years ago, as you do.

Especially since I actually have read the State Department’s requirements. You don’t even need a birth certificate to get a passport.


3,465 posted on 07/14/2008 12:02:02 PM PDT by null and void (Give a hoot - don't vote for Toot! I know Desmond Tutu and Barry Toot Toot is no Tutu...)
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To: null and void
FWIW, this thread is on "Obama birth cert factcheck.org" search results:
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3,466 posted on 07/14/2008 12:02:34 PM PDT by WOSG (http://no-bama.blogspot.com/ - NObama, stop the Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: Spunky

Um, yeah. That was it. Nothing else.


3,467 posted on 07/14/2008 12:05:20 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: WOSG

That’s nice. Too bad google lost all links to actual images of the document in question.


3,468 posted on 07/14/2008 12:05:31 PM PDT by null and void (Give a hoot - don't vote for Toot! I know Desmond Tutu and Barry Toot Toot is no Tutu...)
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To: David; SE Mom; pissant; expatguy

Follow up on:

>>>>>>>>I am concerned about the Martin book—if it is poorly done, it will damage the effort to initiate a real investigation on the question of whether Obama is eligible to serve as President. The crucial question is whether or not Martin has had access to birth and marriage records obtained in Kenya—if yes, everything else in the book pales in significance; if no, the book is simply another delay.<<<

You weren’t the only one with that concern, in which I agree with anyway. I also just preordered Jerome Corsi’s book which also features ExPatGuy’s story that he did investigative work on for his blog.

We will have Corsi’s coverage, Andy Martin’s coverage and ExPat’s investigative work to compare.


3,469 posted on 07/14/2008 12:08:58 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: null and void; usmcobra

If I was WOSG, I’d be pointing out that the versions posted in mid-June are the same as the ones there now. I don’t trust KOS but I trust factcheck.org to have the same image. If you can see that seal impressions now (you can) then they were on the original images. The mistake people made was going with the low-res ‘fightthesmears’ version and not finding it and turning that into an ‘aha’ moment. No go. The seal impresions were on the high-res image from the get-go.


3,470 posted on 07/14/2008 12:10:35 PM PDT by WOSG (http://no-bama.blogspot.com/ - NObama, stop the Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: null and void

Admission by MSM and Obama campaign that the COLB image is fake, yes, a la Rathergate. A scandal on Obama of that magnitude is worth a steak dinner.

“We don’t have a Sullivan’s here. I’m partial to The Outback, though...” You’ll just have to visit Austin to collect on it. :-)


3,471 posted on 07/14/2008 12:13:05 PM PDT by WOSG (http://no-bama.blogspot.com/ - NObama, stop the Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: aruanan; jellybean

JB, do you remember seeing this in the Old airport link?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2040486/posts?page=3448#3448

I know the pictures of the old airport have those polls with the location flags on them.

The pictures of the new airport did not.


3,472 posted on 07/14/2008 12:16:47 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: KJC1

KJCI, Would you mind doing me (actually all of us) a favor? Would you call the Hawaiian Vital Records and ask them why your birth certificate says filed, while others say accepted? I am really curious to know why the wording is different on some.

The reason why I am asking you, specifically, is in case they ask for your certificate number, etc. to look up any necessary info to give you a definitive answer on the difference.


3,473 posted on 07/14/2008 12:18:15 PM PDT by davandbar (CLINTONThere's no limit to how much credit a man can get, if he doesn't care what he's actually done)
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To: Calpernia; null and void
My uncle was traveling to Hawaii from the late 50s through the 60s setting up radio and TV stations. I sent him the links to the Obama HNL photos as well as the link to the one where the Pan American section is identified as being from the old terminal. He said these three photos were in the new terminal. I'm guessing the reason why the one with the Pan American section was completely empty of people during broad daylight is because it was taken just before operations were transferred there. There was a picture of a newer terminal somewhere, but this could have been from the interisland air terminal or from one of the later upgrades or additions to the Oct. 1962 terminal.

I just heard back from my uncle after further questioning about the photo. Here is my question and his response:
So what you're saying is that the hawaiiaianaviation folks mislabeled that photo as being from 1960 when it was in reality from the new terminal completed in 1962?

Yes, on both counts! The new Inter-Island terminal, built for three airlines which have now bankrupted down to one scheduled, followed. The remains of the old terminal (after years of termite infestation) were used for the tiny inter-island carriers for several years, but then these were moved to the buildings east of the main terminal where they displaced fixed base operators who no longer had sufficient student pilot populations to stay in business.

One of the carriers was to Molokai, the lightly populated island next to the southeast of Oahu, where the leper colony is and where we located the KAIM AM transmitter. One, now defunct, carrier had an ancient DC-3 with small engines so that it really did not meet the FAA requirements for being able to maintain altitude on one engine. The baggage boy would pull the chocks after engine startup, climb on board, put on his steward's cap, and tell the pilot to slow down to about 95 mph so he could sell some cheap drinks. We shared the cabin with fighting cocks, illegal, but very active on Molokai, and their trainers.

3,474 posted on 07/14/2008 12:30:19 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: WOSG
“Hawaii should release all pertinent records pertaining to the Mr. Obama.” I don’t believe Hawaii can legally do that, I am not sure.

You're probably right about that. However, just to be devil's advocate for a minute, what if the document is a forgery? Would Hawaii be able to look up their records and see if there is a certification on file with a number for Obama? If yes, then they stay quiet. If no, then there is no legal barrier to Hawaii saying they have confirmed that there is no record on file.

Just to play with that hypothetical a little longer, would Hawaii be protecting a liar's "right to lieprivacy" by not exposing the fact that a document does not exist when a party says that it does?

Do I have a right from all the states that I wasn't born in, for those states to not expose that they don't have a birth certificate on file for me, just in case I choose to lie to somebody about it for gain?

-PJ

3,475 posted on 07/14/2008 12:33:42 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: null and void
"Barack Obama panics: Andy Martin’s book forces Obama to admit he is illegitimate"

"Ummmmmmmmmmmmm, doesn't that mean he perpetrated a fraud on the American public by releasing a forged document on his website?"

I am not exactly sure how his being illegitimate means he perpetrated a fraud on his birth certificate.

If Obama Sr. was at the birth he and Ann could have just put Barack Hussian Obama as the name for the child. I don't see anywhere on that certificate or the DeCosta certificate where it asks if the parents are married.

Don't get me wrong, I do think something is wrong with the certificate. No decent seal or signature. Just wondering why you think his not admitting to being illegitimate makes the certificate a fraud?

3,476 posted on 07/14/2008 12:37:35 PM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: aruanan
This is from the Hawaiian Government's own site:

Old Terminal Building

The old terminal building in Honolulu. This facility was razed in 1965.

3,477 posted on 07/14/2008 12:37:58 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia
The old terminal building in Honolulu. This facility was razed in 1965.

Yeah, I know they have it posted there. My uncle said the old terminal building was really old, termite-ridden, was a semi-open affair, and had a thatched roof. This one isn't old, semi-open, and doesn't have anything that looks as though it could be termite-ridden. He said the terminal in this photo is the new terminal built in 1962 and that it was mis-identified as the old terminal.
3,478 posted on 07/14/2008 12:50:00 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: WOSG

Certainly worth a steak dinner.

Since I haven’t had an actual paycheck in a couple years, asking me to put airfare on top of it is a non-starter.

I have to regretfully decline the bet.


3,479 posted on 07/14/2008 12:56:36 PM PDT by null and void (Give a hoot - don't vote for Toot! I know Desmond Tutu and Barry Toot Toot is no Tutu...)
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To: KJC1
Thanks for the information.

It appears that since yours has the Seal and Signature on it, it is more like DeCostas because those things are NOT visible on Obama's.

I think the boarder is no big deal. Also I think the difference between accepted and filed is based on the fact DeCosta was born when Hawaii was still a territory. They are just stating that all the information provided was accepted.

3,480 posted on 07/14/2008 12:58:06 PM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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