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Obama to Propose Massive Greenhouse Gas Tax
Saturday, February 21, 2009 | Kristinn

Posted on 02/21/2009 5:36:16 PM PST by kristinn

Barack Hussein Obama will propose a massive business tax on greenhouse gases in his FY 2010 federal budget to be presented this week.

The massive tax increase and power grab was buried at the end on article on Obama's forthcoming budget proposal in The New York Times:

On energy policy, Mr. Obama’s budget will show new revenues by 2012 from his proposal to require companies to buy permits from the government for greenhouse gas emissions above a certain cap. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that the permits would raise up to $300 billion a year by 2020.

Since companies would pass their costs on to customers, Mr. Obama would have the government use most of the revenues for relief to families to offset higher utility bills and related expenses. The remaining revenues would cover his proposals for $15 billion a year in spending and tax incentives to develop alternative energy.

The proposal is in keeping with a policy announcement candidate Obama made in 2007, as reported then by The Times:

"No business will be allowed to emit any greenhouse gases for free," Mr. Obama said in Portsmouth, N.H. "Businesses don’t own the sky, the public does, and if we want them to stop polluting it, we have to put a price on all pollution."

Obama famously said in 2008 he would make American citizens' electricity rates skyrocket under his plan:

"What I've said is that we would put a cap-and-trade system in place that is more -- that is as aggressive if not more aggressive than anybody else's out there, so if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can, it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted.

"When I was asked earlier about the issue of coal, uh, you know, under my plan of a cap-and-trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.

Regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad, because I'm capping greenhouse gases, coal-powered plants, you know, natural gas, whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money, they will pass that money on to consumers. If you can't persuade the American people that, yes, there's going to be some increase in electricity rates on the front end, but that over the long term because of combinations of more efficient energy usage and changing lightbulbs and more efficient appliances, but also technology improving how we can produce clean energy, that the economy will benefit. If we can't make that argument persuasively enough, you -- you can -- you can be Lyndon Johnson, you can be the master of Washington, you're not gonna get that done."

Obama, of course, has no intention of persuading the American people, he's going to ram his Marxist agenda up their tailpipes.


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To: steveyp
It’s time to act. The time for talking is over.

As Vladimir I. Lenin put it "Who whom", meaning "who is master of whom". Obama and his ilk clearly want to break the American middle class.

What about a capital sit-down strike. Traders go to the pits at the Exchanges and refuse to conduct business. The economy will come screeching to a halt, and governments would be left high and dry. The traders could make demands, in the fashion of the 60's radicals. Santini and his supporters deserve an apology from the While House. An additional possibility is that Obama must resign his office, renounce any claim to US citizenship, and leave the country and all of its terrorties permanently. The same goes for his immediate family. In exchange, he will be paid as if he were a proper ex-President. A further payment will be made in lieu of the US government providing Secret Service protection. He will engage his own protection.

Obama's Presidential library will not be permitted to exist in the USA, though any papers, emails, etc. left behind will be examined by the authorities.

A new government will have to be empowered, but the specifics will be sticky. Let's leave that for now.

If there are better ideas, please speak up! It seems like a dream, but as the saying goes "if you will it, it is no dream".

161 posted on 02/21/2009 8:02:49 PM PST by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men)
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To: mylife

FUBO = f***ed up by Obama.


162 posted on 02/21/2009 8:06:16 PM PST by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: traditional1

“I can look forward to paying additionally for energy”

But Young PADAWAN...
You can get around these taxes by paying the Appropriate TRIBUTE to the Chicago Mafia.. err... I mean Democrats for SPECIFIC EXEMPTIONS for your business/Industry to this tax in later legislation!!

The new PATRONAGE SYSTEM has begun!!!


163 posted on 02/21/2009 8:06:18 PM PST by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: rfp1234

FU
BO


164 posted on 02/21/2009 8:07:16 PM PST by mylife (The Roar of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: stboz

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

__________________
AMEN!!!!!


165 posted on 02/21/2009 8:11:52 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“Wonder if all the Obamatons thought this is what they were voting for?”

Make sure you ask EVERY SINGLE OBAMA VOTER the following question:

“IS FASCISM THE CHANGE YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE VOTING FOR???”


166 posted on 02/21/2009 8:12:02 PM PST by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: kristinn
Hope this hasn't been posted yet:

"We can’t drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK. That’s not leadership. That’s not going to happen."
Barack Obama

Watch for the triple tax on food next.
What's amazing is that he told us exactly what he was going to do, yet there are still those who are shocked by his actions.

167 posted on 02/21/2009 8:12:29 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I *LOVE* my Attitude Problem - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: LottieDah

They are already are working on that for tha Dairy and Beef
Industries.


168 posted on 02/21/2009 8:13:38 PM PST by Blacksheep (Will the last business owner to leave New Jersey please kick Corzine!)
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To: rfp1234
At some point Canada and New Zealand become attractive also. New Zealand went through its socialist follies in the 1980's and collapsed, as we will also.

One can also shut down one's business for now, ride the collapse and ensuing chaos and join the tea party. My point is that increasingly all options start being put on the table.

Unless the Republicans really get their act together, (which is doubtful), a solution is going to have to come from the people. If no solution is forth coming, the people who make the country work might start to look at other options.

169 posted on 02/21/2009 8:17:07 PM PST by verklaring (Pyrite is not gold))
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To: kristinn

Taxing Earth, Water, Wind or Fire is a significant step toward the complete disintegration of a nation.

Being denied the basics to life is simply not acceptable.

Government will have to learn this the hard way.


170 posted on 02/21/2009 8:18:04 PM PST by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“the “polluters” can continue “polluting” the planet as long as they pay the U.S. Government to do it?”

CORRECTION:
As long as they pay THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY they can do it!!

Welcome to the new Patronage System, run by the Chicago Mafia...


171 posted on 02/21/2009 8:18:58 PM PST by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: headstamp 2

“for relief to families to offset higher utility bills and related expenses”

Which will shortly become “Targeted relief for our inner-cities”, just like the Mortgage bailout has become.

You and I BOTH know what “Targeted relief” is the code word for.


172 posted on 02/21/2009 8:22:25 PM PST by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: cripplecreek

“Zero will wait a few days then announce he has no plans to impose a greenhouse tax on us”

Or SNow and Sector will announce that they have powered the new gas tax from $2.00 to “Just” $1.75 through cooperative “Bipartisanship”.


173 posted on 02/21/2009 8:24:50 PM PST by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: tcrlaf
Welcome to the new Patronage System, run by the Chicago Mafia...

Washington DC, Effective January 20, 2009

174 posted on 02/21/2009 8:26:10 PM PST by TYVets
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To: magooey
If even half the tax payers refused to pay, the government would go broke long before it could prosecute enough people to collect their taxes.

If only 20% of hard-working, good-credit, mortgage holders stopped paying their mortgages, the banks would collapse long before they could prosecute enough people to collect the mortgages.
175 posted on 02/21/2009 8:28:29 PM PST by atomicweeder
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To: All

I wonder how he’ll do this and not screw his teamster allies...?


176 posted on 02/21/2009 8:29:53 PM PST by Rick_Michael (Have no fear "President Government" is here)
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To: kristinn; All
Anyone wanna gander a guess at how the markets will react to this wonderful news on Monday? American Revolution Pictures, Images and Photos
177 posted on 02/21/2009 8:34:08 PM PST by zimfam007 (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: Rome2000

“tell their congresscritters that if they pass this energy bill or anything like it, their Congressional careers will end”

Millions and millions of Americans called/begged/demanded that thier elected reps in Washington NOT vote for the Porkulus bill.
THEY WERE IGNORED...

We have lost control of our own government, and it no longer listens to it’s people.

THE TIME FOR “CHANGE” is rapidly coming upon us...


178 posted on 02/21/2009 8:37:39 PM PST by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: kristinn

The good news is, if the backlash against this B.S. is strong enough, Barbara Boxer will be defeated in 2010.


179 posted on 02/21/2009 8:40:28 PM PST by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: magooey

“must resign his office, renounce any claim to US citizenship, and leave the country “

And then we get BIDEN...
Followed by the chief self-interested uber-rich corruptocrat, NANCY PELOSI...

IT’S TIME FOR AMERICANS TO STAND UP AND BE COUNTED, or we will surely fall together...


180 posted on 02/21/2009 8:42:41 PM PST by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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