I'm so stupid, I signed up and got the Zot.

You CAN'T turn it off, 'Face. Don't even try!

00?

33,801 posted on 07/12/2005 5:48:04 PM PDT by Genesis defender (If you are alone or depressed, meditate on Matthew 28:20.)

You beat me to the 00 by 4 seconds.

P.S. Good evening, 'Face. How've you been?

33,802 posted on 07/12/2005 5:51:27 PM PDT by Genesis defender (If you are alone or depressed, meditate on Matthew 28:20.)

To: sionnsar; tuliptree76; Dead Corpse; HKMk23; All

OK guys...I'm outta here for the night. Take care, all of you, and I'll see you tomorrow.

XO

'Face

33,803 posted on 07/12/2005 5:53:07 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.)

To: Genesis defender

LOL!

I'm OK...how about yourself?

I'll save the next 00 for you, OK?
LOL!

33,804 posted on 07/12/2005 5:54:29 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.)

You got it to stream my station or you successfully created your own?

And (for other readers) the "Off" button is the familiar "X" at the top right corner of the browser window where the player is.

33,805 posted on 07/12/2005 5:59:11 PM PDT by HKMk23 (A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel. -- Robert Frost)

I've been better. If it's getting late for you, I can always catch up with you another time. UT2 denizens like yourself need plenty of sleep!

33,806 posted on 07/12/2005 5:59:34 PM PDT by Genesis defender (If you are alone or depressed, meditate on Matthew 28:20.)

'Night, Face! I'm not long after you...

33,807 posted on 07/12/2005 6:07:29 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Kyoto: Split Atoms, not Wood)

To: Monkey Face; sionnsar; tuliptree76; Dead Corpse; NicknamedBob; King Prout

Yikes! 0130 Zulu! Past "Mad Max" time for me.

I'll be intermittent next 7 days (as if THAT's not SOP for me).

Dead Corpse,

Maybe we'd be better off getting the castle off the ground with anti-grav. The only danger there, is that you have to prevent the mass deposition of net magnetic monopoles in your magnetic cores otherwise they will explode. Of course, this is easily done by limit-controlling the power output.

33,808 posted on 07/12/2005 6:42:30 PM PDT by HKMk23 (A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel. -- Robert Frost)

To: HKMk23; Dead Corpse; King Prout; sionnsar

Anti-grav eh?

Why not faerie dust?

Or hitch the enclosures to Dr. Doolittle's Luna Moths?

The stipulation is, we've already flown the castle three times, prior to Nuclear Rocket power. Since that time, even though we've added structure, we've also been busy reducing mass.

The ground below the castle is a hollow space frame, replacing the relatively solid regolith that formerly supported it.

Much of the material removed has been discarded, but salvageable and valuable minerals and ores have been scavenged from the demolition.

In its current state, if the portals to the outside were closed off, and the air pumped out of the castle enclosure, it could possibly rise into the atmosphere!

Large as it is, if the interior were vacuum, the outside atmosphere would lift it like a Helium balloon!

Unfortunately, we have no use for a castle enclosure with a vacuum for an atmosphere, nor would we be able to lift very far in Earth's atmosphere. We would top out at about five thousand feet, I guess.

We will have to load up the castle enclosure and its sister environments, with people, animals, plants of all descriptions, spare materials of every imaginable sort, and machines to fabricate what we don't yet know we need from whatever we remember to take along!

Our current lift-off plans rely upon the power of Nuclear engines. I have recently tripled the recommended number of thrust engines, out of concern that my calculations are in error, or that we will have much more in the way of cargo than expected at the appointed time.

When the day comes for lift-off, all engines will fire. -- We will know in minutes if the thrust is sufficient, because we will either rise, or we will not.

If we rise, we will continue on our way.

If we do not, we will re-evaluate the apparent thrust to weight ratio and take action accordingly.

We will not give up!

Unfortunately, because of the nature of world politics and the unknown power of these untested engines, we cannot run tests in advance, or we will attract unwanted attention.

When we lift off, if someone wants to discuss the matter at that time, we will be available for discussions. Until then, strict but reasonable security precautions, particularly over discussions about the "volatile" substance we are getting from the ocean's currents, will remain in force.

33,809 posted on 07/12/2005 7:56:29 PM PDT by NicknamedBob (Mighty and enduring? They are but toys of the moment to be overturned by the flicking of a finger.)

To: HKMk23; Monkey Face

We have a new participant in the UT festivities?!

Why wasn't I informed?

:0)

-good times, G.J.P. (Jr.)

33,810 posted on 07/12/2005 9:34:10 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham

To: Do not dub me shapka broham

33,811 posted on 07/12/2005 10:22:03 PM PDT by airborne

To: Do not dub me shapka broham

33,812 posted on 07/12/2005 10:23:01 PM PDT by airborne

To: HKMk23; Dead Corpse; King Prout; Clemenza; A CA Guy; TASMANIANRED; tuliptree76; sionnsar; ...

33,813 posted on 07/12/2005 10:51:02 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham

To: Do not dub me shapka broham

New, yes -- to this milennium of posts. I poked my nose in back around 25,600 or so and thought it high time I came back 'round again.

Love your Walt Whitman quote, BTW. I may copy/paste it and email it to a few friends; some because they'll laugh, others because they'll gnash their teeth, all for my own pleasure, of course.

Regards

33,814 posted on 07/12/2005 11:07:55 PM PDT by HKMk23 (A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel. -- Robert Frost)

Cool.

I've read that Gatto piece too, and have to say, most of the points he makes are valid.

In fact, it's probably one of the more compellingly written, cogent essays that was published in that "Disinfo" anthology.

I read with avid interest his explanation of how higher education could actually serve as impediment to progress, e.g. in Weimer Germany, which facilitated-to a certain extent-the rise to power of Hitler and other bourgeoisie intellects.

The same holds true for the upper classes in benighted, despotic Arab lands like Egypt, where the elites groomed a disenchanted, politically impotent class of individuals who used the talents they honed over the course of their studies to vengefully strike back at the institutions that had nurtured them.

The Ikwhan Muslimen, i.e. "Muslim Brothers" were, after all, primarily engineers.

Doctors, police officers, attorneys-not impoverished, ignorant plebieans-these were the chief recruits-and to a large extent, the foundational core-for Islamist, Salafi terror organizations like Al Qaeda, Al Gammaa, Al-Jihad, The "Services Office" and other assorted international terrorist franchising brands.

33,815 posted on 07/12/2005 11:23:51 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham

To: Do not dub me shapka broham

I have only had occasion to skim through "The Underground History...", but I've read several of Gatto's articles and short essays on education; collected in his book, "A Different Kind of Teacher". Though, stylistically, he can rail, at times, I am on board with his analysis of what is wrong with the system, the origins of the problems, the mechanisms that perpetuate the problems, and the solution to them. As a private educator using a very much talent/desire-centered model, I see the kind of flexibility in which children can explore what they want and learn at a natural paced and contrast that with my own public school years; the rigid structures (strictures?) and regimentation, that tends to produce cookie-cutter citizens; completely assembled according to government specifications and ready to be told what to do next. I've seen grown men endure humiliation in the workplace simply because of the psychological power inherent in the fact that the boss/employee relationship on the corporate org chart echoes the teacher/student hierarchy in the public school classroom. Even in their late forties, nobody wants to make that trip to the Principal's Office.

Think: "The Incredibles"
Think: "I'm not happy, Bob. Nooot happy."

Different training yields different results.

33,816 posted on 07/12/2005 11:53:50 PM PDT by HKMk23 (A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel. -- Robert Frost)

To: Do not dub me shapka broham

The Magic Zorillo music is really dark tech; kind of a sinister chillout Jean Michel Jarre. I checked out "natives on freud", "super nova", ozone spray gun", and "pamela's three rings". There's tension and dissonance to it, like the soundtrack to a cliffhanger, but it's so chill it comes off as more of a sonic mystery story; a psychedelic Leo Margulies musical.

Cool, man.

33,817 posted on 07/13/2005 12:34:17 AM PDT by HKMk23 (A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel. -- Robert Frost)

33,818 posted on 07/13/2005 12:41:02 AM PDT by Old Seadog ("The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." -- WINST)

Good morning, 'Face!

33,819 posted on 07/13/2005 6:10:29 AM PDT by tuliptree76 (I'm sailing on the wide accountancy.)

I'll be intermittent next 7 days (as if THAT's not SOP for me).

That's okay. We tend to be intermittent on occasion.

33,820 posted on 07/13/2005 6:11:48 AM PDT by tuliptree76 (I'm sailing on the wide accountancy.)

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