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Freeper Says she's sorry to Vietnam Vets. Many who believed Kerry and VVAW lies, now are crying.
Free Republic | 8/27/2004 | Freeper

Posted on 08/29/2004 4:44:09 AM PDT by stockpirate

To: stockpirate I am not sure this is the proper place to put this...but here goes... To All The Vets of Viet Nam,

I was born in 1955, a baby boomer...into an alcoholic and abusive family. I was 14 years old when Woodstock rocked this nation. I remember standing in front of a 12" black and white set watching it unfold on the 6 o'clock news. I also remember my father using the term..".long haired hippie pukes" and being totally disgusted with the whole mess. Being 14 with a father who like to use his fists..I naturally rejected anything he said as any kind of truth. He had lost my affection and my trust many years ago. My father also told the story of being wounded in the Korean war...he even had a scar to prove it. I later found out when I got older, that he had spent the entire war in England..so much for his credibilty.

My mother thought it would be good to alert me at that tender age of 14 about the drug scene that was waiting to prey upon me. She handed me a bunch of Life magazines with an expose of the underground culture of drugs. Living in a small town in Central NY..this was definitely a foreign concept. I was mesmerized by the pictures of hippies and the freedom they appeared to have. Oh how I longed to have a place in this world where I could breathe without fear of being hit. I was ripe for the picking.Within 6 months I found myself hobknobbing with drug dealers and the like.

The next couple of years I was entrenched in the drug scene..my friends were of like thinking..we had all bought into the Love, Peace, Free Sex and drugs doctrine being perpetuated on the youth of this nation. I became a sympathizer of the likes of Abby Hoffman and Jerry Rubin. Their books became gospel for me....I devoured the book.."Soul on Ice" by Eldredge Cleaver. I hated the Viet Nam war...not because of it's political significance...but the idea of war and chaos in general. I had seen too much of that as I was growing up...I longed for peace in my soul. I drank and drugged to relieve some of the inner pain.

I bought into anything that my father hated....and hated anything he bought into. My father was a veteran and stood by the President..even though he was a democrat.....He stood by his brothers in arms. So it was natural for me to take the opposing view. I hated war. Our little town had 3 casualties in the Viet Nam war..two of whom rode on my school bus....they were older than me but each had made a distinct impression on me as I rode the bus....I remember Joe who used to make the sound of a cricket as he ran his fingers along the roof of the bus...he was so tall!!..and Ron was the cute older brther of my sister's friend. Both gone, both dead and for what purpose? My teenaged brain couldn't comprehend the whole idea of death and war.

In 1975, I was 20 years old...a survivor of years of self abuse through my reckless lifestyle..and now a mother of two children. I sat in front of another TV and watched as they were airlifting people out of Saigon. A plane full of refugees were taking off when the plane, carrying children, crashed on takeoff. I sat in front of the TV set and cried...sobs coming from somewhere so deep inside of me....I realised as I was sitting there...that this was the first time I had ever cried for anyone else but myself. My heart was starting to unthaw from years of guarding it.

When the war ended I didn't abuse the vets who had served bravely for my country, no my attitude was worse than any abuse bestowed on them...mine was one of indifference, one of apathy, a "so what and who cares attitude." I never spoke a word that brought shame to a vet, but my heart was full of hatred for anyone who would willingly go and make war.

On Memorial Day, my father would put on his legion uniform and march in the parade and shoot his gun off at the village green in remembrance of those fallen. I watched with a mocking spirit within me. It was a big deal to him (dad) when he became post commander..all I could see was another opportunity for him to drink. I saw him as a hypocrit..a man who espoused peace and freedom ...who oppressed his family with violence and bondage.

But something happened to me over the years...an ideological change, a paradigm shift of thought. I woke up in the mid 1990's and I found myself with the same ideals my father had about his country. I fell in love with where I live and what it stands for. Maybe it was watching my children growing up and wanting better for them or Maybe it was watching CNN during the first Gulf war knowing my brother was in a tank somewhere inside Iraq... or maybe it was the day I sent my youngest son off to the Marines for safe keeping. Maybe it was coming to have faith in Christ. But something definitely changed within me. Maybe it was turning off the TV for a moment and allowing God to speak to me without all the static.

I joined Free Republic over a year ago at the request of a friend. And today I watched a video clip of the VVAW throwing their medals. I must have watched it 6 times. It was this clip that prompted me to write this piece. After so many years I wonder if it would really make any difference to the men and women who served our country by going to Viet nam, if I were to say.. from the bottom of my heart...that I AM SO SORRY for not giving you the Honor you so richly deserve. I am sorry for the indifference I showed you when you returned...of turning my eyes and closing my ears.. when I heard a derogatory remark aimed at you. Would it make a difference if I told you that I am proud of the service you gave to us on behalf of our freedom..that I appreciate your sacrifices and the blood shed for the freedom we all share today. It is 30 years late but I couldn't let another day pass with writing these thoughts down.Please Forgive Me.....


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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

And Welcome Home to you.

"As the rain runs into the river, and as rivers run to the sea, so also do tears come to an end"

May something good come of all this.


161 posted on 08/29/2004 10:49:13 AM PDT by Stashiu ( Yeah, I am a Vietnam Vet, not a War Criminal.)
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To: Matchett-PI

As I stated in the original reply, the same age as the author of the post.


162 posted on 08/29/2004 10:49:20 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: joesbucks
You speak authoritativly here.

The code is often used to, and as a tool of, coverup. The code, as it should be executed, is honor, even when it hurts.

Yet you admit here;

Since I never served in the military

How dare you challenge the honor of those that have served this country in uniform, especially on this thread. You need to STFU and go get some class.

163 posted on 08/29/2004 10:49:40 AM PDT by bad company ((<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism))
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To: joesbucks

"...At the time, Kerry was serving as the point man for the Vietnam Veterans Against the War. The president of the organization was Al Hubbard, who claimed to be an Air Force captain who was severely injured during his service in Vietnam.

It turned out Hubbard was a sergeant who never served in Vietnam.

He did, however, as Kerry knew, serve the communist cause with great enthusiasm and distinction – making propaganda trips to Hanoi paid for by the Communist Party USA. "

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39982


164 posted on 08/29/2004 10:52:42 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hippie Dippie Hanoi Kerry and Hippie Dippie Hanoi Jane sitting in a tree! F-R-E-N-C-H-I-N-G)
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To: N8VTXNinWV

Ping to especially #1 and #15 (grab a hankie first)


165 posted on 08/29/2004 10:53:23 AM PDT by shezza (God bless the Swiftees -- they're risking it all to defend their country AGAIN!)
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To: bad company

Just because I never served in the military doesn't mean I have never worked in or with the same type of code that exists. So please, before you tell me the STFU, please crawl back under your rock. Thank you.


166 posted on 08/29/2004 10:54:23 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: stockpirate

Welcome back whoever you are!

:-)


167 posted on 08/29/2004 10:59:52 AM PDT by F-117A
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To: joesbucks
Just because I never served in the military doesn't mean I have never worked in or with the same type of code that exists.

If you've never been there how could you possibly know what this alledged code is. Did you see it in a movie?

168 posted on 08/29/2004 11:01:37 AM PDT by bad company ((<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism))
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To: beyond the sea
I was an ASA guy in the late 60's early 70's. When I came home to my city there was the wafting stench from some of the citizens of hatred and disrespect for veterans of service.

I too was an ASA guy (059 & 982) in the early 60's and had the misfortune to come through San Francisco in 1965 and know the agony of being called babykiller etc. I appreciate this article more than I can ever say.

Thanks for your service.

169 posted on 08/29/2004 11:02:41 AM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 42% of americans)
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To: stockpirate
Thank You.
Ah yes, the memories.When I rotated back to the states, we were told to change our clothes into "civies" before catching connecting flights to home, (like the short hair and the deepest tan wouldn't give our identities away) and like most when I got home,I remained silent. I only responded to another vet,or family, about any story I was asked about.
What bother me most,was not the "peaceniks",not the change in policy,nor the ever present politician's answer to the
conflict. Strangely enough, what use to upset me the most were plain and simple newspaper stories. You see the MSM had to add this little caveat to every story or article.
...."a viet nam vet"..You know, headline: Man sets fire to garbage can...somewhere before the end of the article they would have to say.."a viet nam vet"...and I noticed more and more..any nasty story that little caveat would be there.
After a few years of this I finally wrote my local newspaper asking them why they didn't add the little tagline to the good stories, you know: fireman saves kitty from leap atop maple tree on main street..or local man volinteers to help retirees...or new baseball coach wins raves from little leaguers...
I told them I thought it was irresponsible for them to scare young people (and old) about vets. I did this without telling them, I was and AM a proud Viet Nam Veteran...proud of my fellow vets and will always remain that way. I suppose it's a bonding that I hope will always be there.


Doogle
170 posted on 08/29/2004 11:06:53 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF..408th MMS...Ubon, Thailand "69" ..."Wolfpack".night line delivery "Doogle")
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To: bad company
Just because I never served in the military doesn't mean I have never worked in or with the same type of code that exists. So please, before you tell me the STFU, please crawl back under your rock. Thank you.
 
Be Careful Bad, I think joenobucks is about to whip out his other big word, "code" is about used up now, so with the tension thick as skeeters in July we wait, for joenobucks to inform the World about something else he has absolutely no clue about.

171 posted on 08/29/2004 11:09:45 AM PDT by TexasTransplant (I made my Fortune selling Sugar Coated Cat Turds on a Stick at the DNC Convention)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub


172 posted on 08/29/2004 11:09:58 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: nicmarlo
My 19 y.o. daughter turned me on to the movie Hair a few months ago. As I watched that time-capsule from my own bizarre youth, I reflected once again on the horror of LBJ's crime of running that war as a low-budget no-win political sideshow. In his eyes, the lives of thousands apparently mattered less than his own political career.

Yet, to this day, I feel personally diminished as a man by my easy evasion of my generation's challenge (I got a good draft number). I am embarassed, and obscurely ashamed, when talking with those who went.

173 posted on 08/29/2004 11:10:50 AM PDT by TomSmedley ((technical writer looking for work!))
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

You need not worry about a backlash to President Bush from any Swiftvet ad, if that were so , then John Kerry would of suffered a backlash from the Moveon.org presentation of the President of the United States as Hitler, or suffered due to the Anti American Propaganda of Michael Moore, a Democrat.


174 posted on 08/29/2004 11:14:45 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 (John Kerrry, the Rice A Phony, the Cambodian treat.)
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To: stockpirate

Thank you for posting this Heart felt letter.

I was born in 56, I watched as Kerry and the anti war movement split and destroyed this country.

I didn't do drugs but hung out with the hippies.
I signed up for the draft, if called I would have gone.
After the evacuation of Saigon the draft was ended.
I joined the Army in March of 76, served with many Men that had served in Vietnam.
Even after Nam was over I got looks and comments from civilians when I walked around Proudly in my uniform.

I Thankyou for your letter and I know the Vietnam Veterans that read it will appreciate your honesty and apology.

I Love my Country and will do what ever it takes to defend it.
I Love all our Veterans and will do anything to defend them and their Honor.

As for kerry and his ilk.......
I will do what ever it takes to keep the traitors out of power.
They suck!


175 posted on 08/29/2004 11:16:53 AM PDT by The Mayor (God gives grace for this life and glory in the life to come.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
"I honestly did what I could do to once again defend my country."

Wow! Thanks for that reminder, that it's the duty of ALL of us (Vietnam vet or not) to stand up and defend our country against the enemies of the United States of America and all we hold dear.

I have been weeping through this whole thread. Although just an oblivious kid through most of the Vietnam war, I have never really understood or even thought much about its impact on our society. I'm learning boatloads now.

Thank you to all of you vets, past as well as present. To you we owe an incredible debt of gratitude, and it is LONG overdue. God bless you!

176 posted on 08/29/2004 11:18:04 AM PDT by shezza (God bless the Swiftees -- they're risking it all to defend their country AGAIN!)
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To: stockpirate

Who wrote this?


177 posted on 08/29/2004 11:19:53 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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To: stockpirate

I am close in age to the writer of this piece. God bless her and heal her childhood memories.


178 posted on 08/29/2004 11:22:21 AM PDT by ride the whirlwind (Sorry, Mr. Kerry....In the parlance popularized by your wife, you can just "shove it.")
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thanks for the ping!


179 posted on 08/29/2004 11:29:21 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Stashiu

I was 10 years in 68. All I remember was seeing the war on the news at 6:00 but I never knew anyone who went or died in Viet Nam.

As a 13 y.o. I heard about Mei Lei and Lt. Calley. I don't know why I formed the opinions that I did (maybe something I heard my parents say), but I made a handwritten petition to "Free Lt. Calley" and took it on the school bus and around to neighbors. I clearly remember a man who's kids I babysat asking me if I thought murdering babies was right. Maybe I was just born with the activist gene. For anyone who knows much about Mei Lei, I would appreciate hearing from you.

So now as an adult I want to say to all of you who have served our country and sacrificed much (includes my dad and many family members)...thank you from the bottom of my heart


180 posted on 08/29/2004 11:29:49 AM PDT by valleygal
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