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If Kerry was referring to the other Vietnam vets and not the Swift Boat Vets than isn't it true!
Vanitiy | August 25,2004 | Stockpirate

Posted on 08/25/2004 6:53:16 AM PDT by stockpirate

Recently I have read that John Kerry has told the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth that he was not referring to them in his senate speech in 1971, but to all the other Vietnam War veterans.

Well, we should apply the same standard to this that Kerry and his news pals used, that is;

That he did not serve in their tent, unit, team, foxhole, aircraft, patrol unit, or squad so therefore he cannot know what these men were doing or not doing.

Therefore, because by his own admission that by these rules above the SBVT couldnot have known, he should admit that everything he stated about Vietnam War veterans is a lie, as he had no first hand knowledge.

He did not serve with them!

And most will say they are glad that he didn't!


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1 posted on 08/25/2004 6:53:17 AM PDT by stockpirate
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; BykrBayb; LakeLady; bridgemanusa; Darksheare; Dr Snide; faithincowboys; ..

ping


2 posted on 08/25/2004 7:03:52 AM PDT by stockpirate (Real issue is Kerry attended meeting where VVAW discussed killing 7 US Senators! 11/71)
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To: stockpirate

Sorry, too easy. Kerry needs to take the full punishment for his words.

Kerry lied about veterans, even though he had no knowlege of any atrocities. He caused P.O.W.'s to be tortured with his words. He helped extend the Vietnam war.

Kerry was a member of a communist front organization that was plotting to kill U.S. Senators. Kerry backed every communist he could while a Senator.

If all the punishment Kerry gets is to shred his stupid, childish fantasy of being a war hero, then it's far less than he deserves.


3 posted on 08/25/2004 7:06:46 AM PDT by No_Outcome_But_Victory (Reagan preferred to shoot the bear... the verdict of history will be simple: nice aim.)
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To: stockpirate

A good point. He wasn't there and so cannot comment using Kerry's logic.


4 posted on 08/25/2004 7:06:49 AM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: No_Outcome_But_Victory

No what I wrote is just a start.

What went on in VVAW is a lot worse than what you have stated, I have been reading the FBI files and have posted a lot of information concerning the FBI files.


5 posted on 08/25/2004 7:13:03 AM PDT by stockpirate (Real issue is Kerry attended meeting where VVAW discussed killing 7 US Senators! 11/71)
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To: stockpirate

I'm still waiting for Kerry to confess to the atrocities he participated in as a Senator...


6 posted on 08/25/2004 7:14:01 AM PDT by Spok
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To: stockpirate

Was he (Is he) a member of the communist party?


7 posted on 08/25/2004 7:16:06 AM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: stockpirate
ave been reading the FBI files and have posted a lot of information concerning the FBI files.

You know Hillary? :P Do tell us more about the FBI Files..

While I'm sure the vets would rather have never served with Kerry, it's too late. Now he gets to be pummeled.

8 posted on 08/25/2004 7:17:36 AM PDT by No_Outcome_But_Victory (Reagan preferred to shoot the bear... the verdict of history will be simple: nice aim.)
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To: stockpirate
Kerry not only took hearsay as fact....the then took that hearsay and made it his 'own' story..

Kerry stole someone else's war stories...

He took lies for the truth and then made them into lies for himself to brandish...

As the web he weaves comes unraveled so is his campaign for POTUS

The guy has emotional problems...and has been insulated by his power and his money...

HE CANNOT BE ELECTED POTUS....unless God is really really angry at us....

We will get the leaders we deserve...

That alone should be a very scary thought...
9 posted on 08/25/2004 7:18:25 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: stockpirate

Also, Kerry said HE committed atrocities ...then HE was the only member of the Swift Boat group that 'burned villages',
etc!


10 posted on 08/25/2004 7:23:59 AM PDT by CharlotteVRWC
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To: stockpirate

John Kerry. Patriotic, but not patriotic enough.


11 posted on 08/25/2004 7:37:31 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye ((Kerry is a flake))
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To: stockpirate
Ramsey Clark to Join Panel for Saddam’s Defense
arabnews Wednesday, 25, August, 2004



People can get
Kerry's real book here,
right now,
online FREE!!

From Kerry's "The New Soldier":
Al Hubbard Sgt., 22 Troop Carrier Squadron Aug. ’65-June ’66

Emotions: Walking down the flight line at Saigon past stacks of aluminum cases containing American bodies and past stacks of aluminum luggage containing American currency. Seeing the tight, sad face of an Airman loading the bodies aboard a dirty Air Force Transport and the wide smiling face of a stewardess greeting the passengers aboard a clean Pan American Clipper Jet. Hearing a Vietnamese beg you to leave his country and an American colonel tells you to bomb his country. Hearing a Vietnamese invite you to live in his home, after the war and an American explain why you can’t live in his block, after the war. Flying over barren, brown, safe American held terrain and over lush, green unsafe enemy terrain. Feeling happy to be leaving a country in which you do not belong and sad to be returning to a country in which you are not allowed to belong. Sacrificing a portion of your consciousness so you won’t have to deal with being there and building mental blocks so you won’t have to deal with having been there.

- Al Hubbard, proven fraud who never set foot in Viet Nam. The only Vietnamese he ever met was when he was collaborating with the North Vietnamese in Paris
on the American Communist Party's nickel.
John Kerry's explanation: "He (Hubbard) simply exaggarated his particular position.
But nobody knew it at the time. And those things happen."

The New Soldier, (46 pages)
By John Kerry
and Vietnam Veterans
Against the War

PART I

PART II
PART III

Kerry hopes everyone
in the USA gets this book!
Print this out (46 pages) and disribute it,
especially to the liberals you know.

Copy and paste the links to everyone you know.

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Inro.pdf

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier.pdf

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Epilogue.pdf



12 posted on 08/25/2004 7:40:59 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Jane and Hanoi Kerry sitting in a tree, sitting in a tree F-R-E-N-C-H-I-N-G)
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To: CharlotteVRWC
Also, Kerry said HE committed atrocities ...then HE was the only member of the Swift Boat group that 'burned villages', etc!

YEP! Hilarious isnt it? He can keep up with himself.

13 posted on 08/25/2004 7:42:05 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: No_Outcome_But_Victory
:P I couldn't find the meaning of this one?

So that means I don't know if you are attempting to insult me with this one>>>You know Hillary?

Funny though someone accused me of being Dick Morris.

So here is a list of some of what I have posted. First here is where you can find your own set of FBI files to read:FBI Files

And here are links to some of the articles I have posted:

One

Two

Three

Four

Also if you wouldlike you can go to the search at the top of the page and put in my screen name and read how varied my posts are.
14 posted on 08/25/2004 7:46:17 AM PDT by stockpirate (Real issue is Kerry attended meeting where VVAW discussed killing 7 US Senators! 11/71)
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To: stockpirate
Another Vietnam Vet's Experience
15 posted on 08/25/2004 7:48:49 AM PDT by pabianice
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Freeper N. Theknow says:
"It’s faster than a checkbook, more powerful than a Democratic demagogue, able to lay waste to a liar Kerry with the single click of a mouse. It's a little bird of truth, it's plain to see Kerry's unfit... it's... it's...SuperFReep!

Want to join in the fun?
Click the logo to donate to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth!

16 posted on 08/25/2004 7:49:17 AM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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I just got this EXPOSE KERRY'S FRAUD SWIFT BOAT VETERANS FOR TRUTH sticker on my truck yesterday afternoon.

Made by fellow FReeper disabled vet who has a bone to pick with Kerry, like we all do!
Large $20 (24" Wide 12" Tall) like mine
Small $10 (12" Wide 6" Tall)
Profits go to SwiftVets.com

FReep mail for details.

17 posted on 08/25/2004 7:49:44 AM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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So that means I don't know if you are attempting to insult me with this one>>>You know Hillary?

No, I was just joking, since Hillary seems to have stolen all of the FBI files of Congress. That's the rumor. :P This is a silly face. Have a sense of humor. I know you're not trolling.

18 posted on 08/25/2004 7:53:31 AM PDT by No_Outcome_But_Victory (Reagan preferred to shoot the bear... the verdict of history will be simple: nice aim.)
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To: No_Outcome_But_Victory
Sorry, too easy. Kerry needs to take the full punishment for his words.

Kerry lied about veterans, even though he had no knowlege of any atrocities. He caused P.O.W.'s to be tortured with his words. He helped extend the Vietnam war.

Kerry was a member of a communist front organization that was plotting to kill U.S. Senators. Kerry backed every communist he could while a Senator.

If all the punishment Kerry gets is to shred his stupid, childish fantasy of being a war hero, then it's far less than he deserves.

Oh yes.

If these HORRORS were in President Bush's past....he would NOT BE PRESIDENT.

The press would be LITERALLY TEARING INTO President Bush if he had attended a mtg bent on planning ASASSINATIONS! (Not to mention admitted war crimes, etc.)

19 posted on 08/25/2004 7:56:20 AM PDT by Republic (q)
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To: No_Outcome_But_Victory

I am trying but sometimes it gets wierd here with things people write to you.

But if you go to the link for the FBI files click on section 11 and go to page 190, it is one of the FBI reports on the November 1971 meeting that the discussion was assassinating seven US senators. There is a lot more there than just that.


20 posted on 08/25/2004 8:09:12 AM PDT by stockpirate (Real issue is Kerry attended meeting where VVAW discussed killing 7 US Senators! 11/71)
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