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THE REAL "REAL DEAL" (what Kerry's commanders and crewmates REALLY think of him--with transcripts)
Swift Boats Veterans for Truth Press Conference ^ | 7.19.04 | Mia T

Posted on 07/19/2004 3:23:30 PM PDT by Mia T


(what Kerry's commanders and crewmates REALLY think of him--with transcripts)

by Mia T, 7.18.04



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I do not believe John Kerry is fit to be the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States.

This is not a political issue. It is a matter of his judgment, truthfulness, reliability, loyalty and trust all absolute tenets of command. His biography, Tour of Duty , by Douglas Brinkley, is replete with gross exaggerations, distortions of fact, contradictions and slanderous lies. His contempt for the military and authority is evident by even the most casual review of this biography.

He arrived in country with a strong anti-Vietnam War bias and a self-serving determination to build a foundation for his political future.

He was aggressive, but vain and prone to impulsive judgment, often with disregard for specific tactical assignments.

He was a 'loose cannon.'

In an abbreviated tour of four months and 12 days and with his specious medals secured, Lt. J.G. Kerry bugged out of Vietnam and began his infamous betrayal of all US soldiers, marines, sailors and airmen, including our POWs in the Vietnam War. His leadership in the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, his testimony before Congress in 1971, charging us with unspeakable atrocities remain as undocumented but nevertheless malicious stain on the men and women who honorably stayed the course.

Senator Kerry is not fit to command. The real 'brothers' are my shipmates and veterans who reliably and honorably stayed the course.

--Admiral Hoffman, United States Navy, retired





I'm here representing my late father, Admiral Zumwalt and my brother, Lt. J.G. Elmo Zumwalt who was a swift boat commander in Vietnam.

If Lt. Kerry failed to heed the commandments of his military superiors 36 years ago, whom will he heed as president? It surely will not be the electorate who voted him into office.

Senator Kerry has demonstrated a dangerous propensity to slip into multiple personalities depending on the audience he is addressing. This was clear of his Vietnam service and his actions upon returning home. It has been clear as a senator in his actions on various issues related to Iraq.

It is a personality disorder that will endanger America in the event that he is elected president.

-- Lt. Col. Jim Zumwalt, U.S. Marine Corps, retired





I served in '66 and '67 on my first tour of duty in Vietnam on swift boats and I did my second tour in '68 and '69, involved with John Kerry in the last 2 1/2 months of my tour.

The John Kerry that I know is not the John Kerry that everybody else is portraying..

I served alongside him and behind him, five feet away from him as third class gunner's mate, and watched as he made indecisive moves with our boat, put our boats in jeopardy, put our crews in jeopardy.

If a man like that can't handle a 6-man crew boat, how can you expect him to be our commander in chief?

I left the Navy, lived in Clover, South Carolina and managed boat dealerships. I'm an ordinary guy with no political agenda and no party affiliation.

--Steve Gardner





I served in Vietnam from September 1968 to September 1969, six months of which was with this honored bunch of people, many of whom are here today.

I signed that letter because I, too, felt a deep sense of betrayal: Someone who took the same oath of loyalty as I did as an officer for the US Navy would abandon his group here to join this group here and come home and attempt to rally the American public against the effort that this group was so valiantly pursuing.

You know, it is a fact that in the entire Vietnam war, we did not lose one major battle. We lost the war at home. And at home, John Kerry was the field general.

Only last week--or two weeks ago--I saw on television where, when asked to respond for his support for the Iraq war, he said, "I cannot imagine going to war without the support of the American people." The same man who joined this group to rally the American people against our effort.

This is not the making of a commander in chief.

--Bob Elder






I served as an officer in charge of swift boats in Vietnam from June 1969 to June 1970. I think it's extremely important that all of his records be released so that the American people can judge for themselves. That's in part why I'm here today.

My greater concern is for his shameful behavior after returning from only four months in Vietnam to condemn and malign the hundred of thousands of men and women who served their country honorably and that he, by his actions, aided and abetted the very enemy we were sent to Vietnam to defeat.

In my specific experience in both coastal and river patrols over a 12-month period, I never once saw or heard anything remotely resembling the atrocities described by Sen. Kerry.

If I had, then my obligation was to report them in writing to a higher authority and I would certainly have done that. If Sen. Kerry actually witnessed or participated in these atrocities, or as he described them, "war crimes," he was obligated to report them. That he did not until later, when it suited his political purposes strikes me as opportunism of the worst kind.

That he would malign my service and that of his fellow sailors, with no regard to the truth, makes him totally unqualified to serve as commander in chief.

--Jeff Wainscot





I served as commander, coastal division 14-4 early days of 1968 til the first week of 1969. Lt. J.G. Kerry reported in mid-November to that division.

While in Cam Rahn Bay, he turned in -- he trained on several 24-hour indoctrination missions. On one specific skimmer operation with my most senior and trusted lieutenant, the briefing from some members of that crew the morning after revealed that they had not received any enemy fire, and yet Lt. J.G. Kerry informed me of a wound and showed me a scratch on his arm and a piece of shrapnel in his hand that appeared to be from one of our own M-79s.

It was later reported to me that Lt. J.G. Kerry had fired an M-79 and it had exploded off the adjacent shoreline. I do not recalling being advised of any medical treatment and probably said something like, "Forget it."

He later received a purple heart for that scratch and I have no information as to how or whom.

Lt. J.G. Kerry was allowed to return to the good ol' USA after four months and a few days in country; and then he proceeded to betray his former shipmates, calling them criminals and [accusing them of] committing atrocities.

Today we are here to tell you just the opposite is true.

Republican or Democrat, it doesn't matter. I for one, could not support and do not want Senator Kerry to be commander in chief of our brave and honorable men.

--Commander Grant Everett, United States Navy, retired





That's the problem with Mr. Kerry. He's always criticizing others in command without knowing the facts.

--Joe Ponder






In the Navy, we have a term, 'service reputation,' by-and-large, unofficial and unwritten. It means the few words that a sailor's colleagues would use to give a snapshot of someone. Kerry would be described as 'devious,' 'self-absorbed,' 'manipulative,' [has] 'distain for authority,' 'disruptive,' but the most common phrase would be 'requires constant supervision.'

 --Charlie Plumly, Captain, United States Navy, retired





Good morning ladies and gentlemen.  My name is Bernard Wolff.

I'm a Georgia boy who joined the Navy to avoid the draft. After a couple of years in a safe, secure assignment in California, I felt an obligation to follow in the footsteps of my forebears and fight for my Country. I volunteered for Swift Boats, and was privileged to be accepted.

I served in three Coastal Divisions during my one year tour from August 1967 to 68: Cam Rahn Bay, An Thoi, and Da Nang. Like so many combat veterans, I returned to civilian life, earning an MBA and joining the business world.

I have signed the Letter to John Kerry in hopes that releasing his Navy medical records will clarify the credibility of his statements in 1971 that defamed those of us who served in Vietnam.

In addition to signing this Letter, I want to refute Kerry's assertions regarding Swift Boat crews engaging in war crimes. We went out of our way to protect innocent Vietnamese, even when it placed us in deep peril.

John Kerry's statements not only brought heartbreak to Vietnam Veterans and their families. They contributed to the imposition of tyranny upon the Vietnamese people.

My 30 years of business travel in the Far East have provided a sad testament to Vietnam's plight. I have seen citizens of neighboring countries enjoy growing prosperity, while our former friends in Vietnam have languished in isolated poverty and hopelessness. This is John Kerry's legacy.

I deeply resent John Kerry's using his Swift Boat experience, and his betrayal of those who fought there as a stepping stone to his political ambitions.

--Bernard Wolff


My name is Richard O'Meara. I'm from the Bronx. I served as a petty officer, 3rd class on a Swift Boat from September '68 to September '69. This was tough, frustrating and sometimes very deadly duty that we took very seriously. During my tour, I participated in over 100 combat patrols, from the very mundane Coastal patrols to the serious and deadly river operations. As crewmen, we were young volunteers and committed to our mission. After my year of duty, I left Vietnam, proud of my service to my country, proud of my crew members and proud of the work that we did.

In 1971, when John Kerry spoke out to America, labeling all Vietnam veterans as thugs and murderers, I was shocked and almost brought to my knees, because even though I had served at the same time and same unit, I had never witnessed or participated in any of the events that the senator had accused us of.

I strongly believe that the statements made by the senator were not only false and inaccurate, but extremely harmful to the United States' efforts in Southeast Asia and the rest of the world. Tragically, some veterans, scorned by the anti-war movement and their Allies retreated to a life of despair and suicide. Two of my crewmates were among them. For that, there is no forgiveness.  

--Richard O'Meara



I'm David Wallace from Atlanta, Georgia. In 1969-'70, I was officer-in-charge of a Swift Boat in Coastal Division 13.

The officers and men with whom I served were honest and honorable. I can only speculate what went on with John Kerry's boats and crew. I do know that I didn't see anything remotely resembling war crimes committed by American sailors, soldiers or airmen.

To the contrary, I saw time after time where American fighting men knowing placed themselves in greater danger to protect civilians and avoid what the politicians called "collateral damage."  About one-third of our operations were to assist the people of Vietnam.

John Kerry returned to this country and, under oath, told my parents, my brother, my sister, my neighbors, he told everyone I knew and everyone that I would ever know, that I and my comrades had committed unspeakable atrocities, that we tortured people, raped women, burned villages without any reason--that sort of thing. He never let up on that.

That wasn't even the worst part. He told the parents, brothers and sisters of the 58,000 brave men who paid the full measure that it's not so bad--they're just war criminals anyway....

Now he's parading around in a Navy flight jacket with patches all over it. I was in Vietnam three times longer than the senator and I didn't see anyone wear flight jackets in 90-degree weather. Now that it suits his purpose, he wants to be a war hero &endash; one wearing a leather flight jacket and telling people it brought him luck in Vietnam.

I just want a commander in chief who knows the difference between the truth and a fanciful flight that gets you somewhere. I want someone who knows the difference between a bold-faced lie and the enduring truths. From what I've seen, John Kerry isn't close.

 --David Wallace



I find it ironic that in 1971-72, for almost 18 months, John Kerry stood before the American people and claimed that the 500,000 men and women in Vietnam in combat were all villains. There were no heroes. In 2004, one hero from the Vietnam War has appeared running for President of the United States and Commander in Chief.

It just galls one to think about it.

--George Elliot


During the Vietnam War, I was a task group commander at An Thoi and my tour of duty was 13 months from the end of Tet to the beginning of the Vietnamization of the Navy units. My tour spanned the four months that Kerry served there in the area.

I think the greatest atrocity of all was when we pulled the financial rug out from under the thousands of military officers and South Vietnamese government officials and assigned them to three and four years of hard time in reindoctrination camps.

--Capt. Adrian Lonsdale, US Coast Guard, retired


I'm a retired chief petty officer and I live in Sun City, California. I was in Vietnam from June 1968 to Jun 1969 serving up in Da Nang and Chu Li and in January 1969, I went to Cat Lo where I served as an engineer and a lead petty officer aboard swift boats during the same period as John Kerry.

I signed this letter because I feel he used Swift Boats for Sailors to proclaim his action, his anti-war statements after the war, and now he uses the same Swift Boats for Sailors to support his claims of being a war hero.

He cannot have it both ways and we are here to ask for full disclosure of the proof of his claims.

--Jim Steffis



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Did John Kerry pick a running mate or hire a lawyer when he selected John Edwards?

by Mia T, 7.18.04


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"There is no one better prepared to keep the American people safe than this man. And if you have any question what John Kerry is made of, just spend three minutes with the men who served with him 30 years ago who still stand by his side. [Emphasis added.] They saw up close that this man is a leader and he has courage, determination and he would never leave any American behind."

John Edwards
Three Minutes (Kerry ad)
July 2004


id John Kerry pick a running mate or hire a lawyer when he selected John Edwards?

That ambulance-chaser extraordinaire Edwards' first task on the ticket is to defend Kerry against the three-decades-old charges of betrayal and sedition and purple-heart fraud and engineering an early battlefield exit and political opportunism argues strongly for the latter...

That Kerry felt compelled to hire a lawyer rather than select a running mate who would provide balance for his ultra-left-wing credentials, or his wimpishly metrosexually Eurocentric proterrorist national-insecurity proclivity, tells us everything we need to know about John Kerry's view of his central vulnerability.

Admiral Elmo Zumwalt, Chief of Naval Operations from July 1970 to July 1974, anticipated this move by Kerry when he observed, "With Kerry's large ambitions, his career in Vietnam will haunt him if he were ever on the national stage."


John Edwards, the man who made his millions as plaintiff pettifogger, should feel right at home on the other side of the aisle.

He will doubtless work it with the same syrupy Southern drawl and Southern-belle eye flutter.

He will surely continue to confect out of whole cloth his requisite villains and victims, in this case, respectively, Bush/Cheney + the haves, and Kerry/Edwards + have-nots, i.e., Edwards' "two Americas," (notwithstanding Kerry's missus' late husband's billions and Edwards' pillaged-from-the-injured multi-millions, and although the too "pessimistic" shibboleth, itself, has apparently been stricken from the Edwards script).

In place of the junk science and no less shoddy so-called expert witnesses he regularly employed to sway credulous juries, Edwards will use on an equally credulous subset of the electorate the standard demagogic techniques of the run-of-the-mill (even if "son-of-a-millworker") leftist politico: lies, illogic, sleight of hand... and a splash of snake oil to lubricate the Left's ever churning agitprop-and-money-laundering machine.




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1 posted on 07/19/2004 3:23:38 PM PDT by Mia T
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To: WorkingClassFilth; jla; Gail Wynand; Brian Allen; Wolverine; Lonesome in Massachussets; IVote2; ...


2 posted on 07/19/2004 3:26:59 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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3 posted on 07/19/2004 3:34:37 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Flush the Two Johns this November. It's for the children.)
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Wow ... I must have missed your posts ... haven't seen your name in ages. Trust all is well.

(I'll bet this would be even more powerful if you "compared and contrasted" with all the testimonies of comradeship and exhortations of campaign support from those with whom Bush served in Viet Nam.)

4 posted on 07/19/2004 3:45:18 PM PDT by Askel5
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Ping in case you haven't heard of this one yet.

5 posted on 07/19/2004 3:53:00 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality)
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Good job, Mia.

6 posted on 07/19/2004 4:23:40 PM PDT by Mark (Treason doth never prosper, for if it prosper, NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON.)
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To: Mia T

those talking heads give me the creeps....

7 posted on 07/19/2004 4:30:00 PM PDT by MacDorcha
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8 posted on 07/19/2004 4:30:12 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** ****)
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To: Mia T
Hi Mia. I trust you're having a great evening. We are having T-showers down here at the moment.

Great post btw.

Did John Kerry pick a running mate or hire a lawyer when he selected John Edwards?

The DNC and John John campaign have hired many lawyers, and they are renting office space in FL (i.e. Tallahassee). They tried to steal the 2000 election, and brought the country to the edge of the abyss. I pray that they understand that.


9 posted on 07/19/2004 4:45:19 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Mia T much info ! Now how do we get this out to the populace at large? I'm sending this to everyone I know.

10 posted on 07/19/2004 4:59:32 PM PDT by nopardons
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It's election time and all the oldtimers are coming out of the woodworks?

11 posted on 07/19/2004 5:26:47 PM PDT by Smartaleck (Wonder if Jackie has whine with his cheese?)
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12 posted on 07/19/2004 8:21:00 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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13 posted on 07/19/2004 8:25:10 PM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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Very good job. Thank you.

14 posted on 07/19/2004 10:18:40 PM PDT by bulldogs (The King will come)
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To: Mia T

read later

15 posted on 07/19/2004 10:24:15 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Secularization of America)
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To: MacDorcha; Mia T; shaggy eel; Kiwigal; SJackson; dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; ...

<< those talking heads give me the creeps.... >>

Those ARE the talking heads of creeps.

Of actual playing-for-keeps manifestation-of-evil creeps!

Be afraid.

Did I mention, Dearest Mia T, that your genius is showing?

Blessings -- Brian


16 posted on 07/19/2004 11:34:07 PM PDT by Brian Allen (Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? -- Galatians 4:16 -- So mote it be!)
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Another stunning compilation.

Congratulations, Mia T.

You are a Freeper through and through.

17 posted on 07/20/2004 4:40:49 AM PDT by Stallone (Make love not war! ~ Lynndie England)
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To: jla; Wolverine; Brian Allen; beyond the sea; WorkingClassFilth; Gail Wynand; ...

Let's spread the word. Kerry is dangerously unfit.

E-mail (copy and paste) this testimony by kerry's commanders and crewmates to everyone.

18 posted on 07/20/2004 5:28:40 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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thx :)

19 posted on 07/20/2004 5:30:04 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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thx. great idea! let's spread the word. kerry is dangerously unfit.

copy and paste this testimony by kerry's commanders and crewmates and email it to everyone you know.

20 posted on 07/20/2004 5:32:49 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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