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| 0:00 | · | SpaceX successfully Landing its Starship |
| 0:03 | · | Rocket yesterday marking a milestone for |
| 0:05 | · | the company our next guest calling it |
| 0:06 | · | one of the most important moments in |
| 0:08 | · | space history for more we're bringing in |
| 0:10 | · | Rick tumlinson founder of space fund |
| 0:13 | · | Rick it is great to see you so let's |
| 0:14 | · | start right there Rick you know we all |
| 0:16 | · | watch SpaceX over this weekend and I did |
| 0:18 | · | see you post on X Rick you said listen |
| 0:20 | · | this is a historic moment how come walk |
| 0:22 | · | us through it |
| 0:24 | · | rick what we're witnessing here is uh |
| 0:27 | · | and thank you for having me is um you |
| 0:30 | · | know it's sort of the combination of the |
| 0:33 | · | the railroads the steam ships airplanes |
| 0:36 | · | all in one like in a 100 years from now |
| 0:39 | · | people are going to look back at this |
| 0:40 | · | period of time um as sort of when |
| 0:44 | · | Humanity breaks out into space I know if |
| 0:46 | · | you're a Star Trek fan but this is when |
| 0:47 | · | the Vulcans start looking at us and |
| 0:49 | · | going hey maybe they should join the |
| 0:50 | · | Federation right uh what I mean by that |
| 0:53 | · | is the idea of |
| 0:56 | · | reusability um is critical to what it is |
| 1:00 | · | um we want to do in space what you just |
| 1:02 | · | witnessed was the equivalent of a |
| 1:05 | · | skyscraper with a smaller skyscraper on |
| 1:08 | · | top of it fly to space launch the |
| 1:10 | · | smaller skyscraper fly back down and get |
| 1:14 | · | captured by two pairs of giant |
| 1:16 | · | Chopsticks it's |
| 1:18 | · | reusability the fact that this happened |
| 1:20 | · | almost begins to make every other rocket |
| 1:22 | · | on the planet Obsolete and so now what |
| 1:25 | · | Rick what what does come |
| 1:27 | · | next well they're going to do a bunch |
| 1:29 | · | more flights you know i' I've I've been |
| 1:31 | · | down there uh where they launched this |
| 1:33 | · | thing and the little Starship vehicle |
| 1:35 | · | that was on top last time I was down |
| 1:37 | · | there like seven more of those um and |
| 1:40 | · | their their approach is to build it |
| 1:41 | · | break it learn from it build it again so |
| 1:44 | · | whenever your your viewers see these |
| 1:46 | · | things blow up understand that what |
| 1:47 | · | they're doing what they say in space is |
| 1:49 | · | we got good data they're going to learn |
| 1:52 | · | more they're going to get better at it |
| 1:54 | · | uh Elon will probably then take that |
| 1:56 | · | once it's starting to fly or SpaceX will |
| 1:58 | · | they'll probably start flying |
| 2:00 | · | their uh you know their communication |
| 2:02 | · | satellites their |
| 2:03 | · | starlinks um then if it blows up it's |
| 2:05 | · | not a problem they'll get good at it |
| 2:07 | · | develop what we call a Heritage um and |
| 2:10 | · | then they'll be able to start getting |
| 2:11 | · | into more complex payloads one of the |
| 2:13 | · | other big things is they need to be able |
| 2:15 | · | to refuel in space to be able to go to |
| 2:18 | · | the destinations like the moon or |
| 2:20 | · | Mars who would you um argue Rick poses |
| 2:23 | · | potential competitive rist to musk at |
| 2:26 | · | this point in either us or Europe or |
| 2:28 | · | both |
| 2:30 | · | um not so much Europe in the US it would |
| 2:32 | · | be blue origin which is Jeff bezos's |
| 2:34 | · | company he's been moving slow but steady |
| 2:37 | · | uh he's coming up uh there's a guy named |
| 2:39 | · | Peter Beck and his company rocket lab um |
| 2:42 | · | which is not a billionaire financed |
| 2:44 | · | company uh they're coming up really fast |
| 2:46 | · | uh Peter comes from New Zealand he was a |
| 2:48 | · | dishwasher worked his way into the field |
| 2:51 | · | uh there's an American company called |
| 2:52 | · | Firefly here in Texas there are a bunch |
| 2:55 | · | of them rolling up and then there's |
| 2:57 | · | China China has at last count roughly |
| 3:00 | · | four companies that are working on |
| 3:02 | · | reusability right now so they're coming |
| 3:04 | · | up fast you know Venture investors Rick |
| 3:07 | · | are much more interested in this space |
| 3:08 | · | now excited about this space I'm curious |
| 3:11 | · | how much how much credit do you give |
| 3:13 | · | Elon Musk for |
| 3:15 | · | that I give him a lot of credit he you |
| 3:17 | · | know he's um he's a he came in with this |
| 3:21 | · | goal single-handedly he wants to go to |
| 3:23 | · | Mars and get people there and he is very |
| 3:26 | · | obsessed and driven by that goal um |
| 3:29 | · | whereas the Aerospace industry is like |
| 3:31 | · | you know Don't Rock the Boat keep the |
| 3:32 | · | money coming you know don't do anything |
| 3:34 | · | too radical and so what he's shown us is |
| 3:37 | · | that just by remember the old Apple |
| 3:39 | · | commercial thinking differently you |
| 3:42 | · | could do something that's incredible um |
| 3:45 | · | but again I the entire community that I |
| 3:47 | · | know of the commercial Community the the |
| 3:50 | · | uh the private Enterprise we're moving |
| 3:52 | · | in that direction all of us so once we |
| 3:55 | · | get past there Robert heinlin the old |
| 3:57 | · | science fiction writer said if you you |
| 3:59 | · | know once you make to orbit you're |
| 4:00 | · | halfway to anywhere so this is the big |
| 4:02 | · | one we get this working the entire solar |
| 4:05 | · | system opens up and finally Rick what |
| 4:07 | · | about these headlines I saw reports that |
| 4:09 | · | California rejecting bids for for more |
| 4:12 | · | frequent SpaceX launch SpaceX launches |
| 4:15 | · | I'm curious what you made of those |
| 4:17 | · | reports how much you think that was that |
| 4:19 | · | was some type of um criticism of musk |
| 4:22 | · | himself went into that decision |
| 4:24 | · | making yeah that's a touchy topic um you |
| 4:27 | · | know I I personally don't I don't share |
| 4:29 | · | many of his political views right now uh |
| 4:31 | · | but he is a friend and um I think that |
| 4:35 | · | that's a challenge it's a real challenge |
| 4:37 | · | I I when he just took over Twitter I uh |
| 4:40 | · | tweeted at him before it became X and I |
| 4:43 | · | said dude you just got one job and |
| 4:44 | · | that's get us off the planet a thousand |
| 4:46 | · | years from now that's all anybody's |
| 4:48 | · | going to care about did you get us off |
| 4:50 | · | the planet and break us out uh we need |
| 4:52 | · | to see that happen and we need Politics |
| 4:55 | · | on both sides to get out of the equation |
| 4:57 | · | both sides let's just go |
| 5:00 | · | Rick great to have you on the show thank |
| 5:02 | · | you so much for joining us in your |
| 5:03 | · | perspective appreciate it |
