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| 03/03/2025
| By Laz A. Mataz
Posted on 03/03/2025 3:55:04 AM PST by Lazamataz
Ok, so, I have a serious question.
Light is not infinitely fast, and it is the universe's speed limit.
Things that have mass cannot travel at the speed of light.
There are galaxies and objects over 93 billion light years away.
But the age of the universe is 13.8 billion years.
Even if Star A was travelling at the opposite direction of Star B, and even if it was traveling at the impossibly-fast speed of light, it could only be that the two stars are 26.6 billion light years apart.
But we see objects 93 billion light years away.
Please try to reconcile these two facts.
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To: Qwapisking
To: Lazamataz
So if spacetime is a balloon, do we need to worry about Big Pop? Ask Ted.
102
posted on
03/03/2025 5:34:05 AM PST
by
TangoLimaSierra
(āāTo the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violenceāā)
To: A_perfect_lady
one step further...conversation with a college student Q:how did this happen? A:I don’t know until my professor tells me. conversation with the professor Q:how did this happen? A:I don’t know but neither does anyone else.
103
posted on
03/03/2025 5:34:21 AM PST
by
Qwapisking
("The left will rue the day they cheated Trump out of the 2020 election forever" L.Star )
To: Lazamataz
I was surprised to learn, when the Webb telescope was placed into position, that many scientists do not believe in the Big Bang theory. It was in the news because the Webb telescope was seeing things that contradicted the Big Bang. But that conversation was quickly dropped and I haven’t heard it since.
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posted on
03/03/2025 5:35:22 AM PST
by
odawg
To: Phlyer
You have explained this so that even I can understand it. For that I thank you.
When I first looked through a telescope I never thought I would be pondering astrophysics and cosmology. I just enjoy looking through it, but one canāt help but ask questions, and thatās what we do.
For me, for now, God will suffice. But, He did give us brains, but we donāt have enough information to solve the problem because we donāt have access to that information. We canāt reach it right now.
The Answer Is Out There.
105
posted on
03/03/2025 5:35:58 AM PST
by
telescope115
(I NEED MY SPACE!!! š)
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posted on
03/03/2025 5:36:09 AM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
To: Lazamataz
A couple earlier such musings, plus a link back to a jumbo list in this topic:
107
posted on
03/03/2025 5:37:59 AM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
To: Right_Wing_Madman
‘And the outside edge of the universe isn’t expanding, all of space is.’
Whatever is expanding has to have something to expand into. What is that something? We use to ask the teachers about that, and for some reason, they became angry.
108
posted on
03/03/2025 5:40:10 AM PST
by
odawg
To: Lazamataz
109
posted on
03/03/2025 5:41:07 AM PST
by
sasquatch
(Do NOT forget Ashli Babbit! c/o piytar)
To: Lazamataz
Hereās something- if Time has a definite speed limit, and Space/Time expands faster than the speed of light, if we could hook up light to space/time, we could go faster than light-couldnāt we?
110
posted on
03/03/2025 5:45:16 AM PST
by
telescope115
(I NEED MY SPACE!!! š)
To: Lazamataz
If we are in the middle and can see x lightyears to the right and x lightyears to the left, that doesn’t mean those two star to our left and right can see each other at xx lightyears apart.
We have to assume there are stars beyond those “furthest” stars that they can see and we cannot. And a Laz counterpart on the “left” star is pondering the same question, and if the “right” star exists.
But I do like the cat theory...
To: Lazamataz
I remember reading a book by a scientist who claimed gravity was incalculably faster than the speed of light. Had it all worked out. Initially put forth by a Russian scientist.
112
posted on
03/03/2025 5:47:26 AM PST
by
odawg
To: odawg
I actually heard the opposite, that the force of gravity travels at the speed of light.
113
posted on
03/03/2025 5:49:44 AM PST
by
Lazamataz
(The BEST birthday present I ever got WAS DONALD TRUMP WINNING IN 2024!!!)
To: rlmorel
114
posted on
03/03/2025 5:53:58 AM PST
by
telescope115
(I NEED MY SPACE!!! š)
To: Lazamataz
As best I understand it from the movies, some guys snort this melange stuff and then do origami with the universe.
Right now, the universe looks like a piece of paper folded up to look like a duck or something and you just walk from beak to tail.
115
posted on
03/03/2025 5:54:37 AM PST
by
blueunicorn6
("A crack shot and a good dancerā )
To: Apple Pan Dowdy
Iāve wondered about that, too. Just WHERE in the universe is our galaxy, in relation to all the other galaxies?
116
posted on
03/03/2025 5:56:06 AM PST
by
telescope115
(I NEED MY SPACE!!! š)
To: Lazamataz
My understanding (which is not great) is that the universe is expanding.
Imagine two airport style people movers moving in opposite directions. They mimic space expanding.
Then imagine two people on the people movers moving at the speed of light in opposite directions from one another.
They would end up farther away from each other then the distance light travels times 2 because of the expanding nature of space.
I’m not saying I necessarily believe that but that is the answer you would be given.
117
posted on
03/03/2025 5:57:37 AM PST
by
nitzy
(I donāt trust good looking country singers or fat doctors.)
To: Lazamataz
I have a speeding ticket court date. Use the Heisenberg defense:
Heisenberg was stopped for doing 85 in a 45mph zone. The sheriff shouted āDo you know how fast you were going?ā Heisenberg replied, āNo, but I know where I was.ā
118
posted on
03/03/2025 5:57:55 AM PST
by
FatherofFive
(we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor)
To: Lazamataz
Laz,
UFOs are spotted thousands of times by credible observers. They don't behave like anything we can build. One intelligent conclusion would be to suspect they come from far away. Due to our theories of the cosmos, many say that is just plain impossible. Yet, they are clearly being observed. Rather than place those theories under suspicion, the UFOs were simply ignored.
Your recent quandary with essentially the very same issue does raise the eyebrows. I suppose it is best to assume what is observed isn't true, so just ignore it. Rather than questioning the quality of our knowledge, the proper scientific response is to ignore your lying eyes.
119
posted on
03/03/2025 6:05:27 AM PST
by
GingisK
To: Lazamataz
Some say the universe is this:
A helix is a shape like a cylindrical coil spring or the thread of a machine screw. It is a type of smooth space curve with tangent lines at a constant angle to a fixed axis.
120
posted on
03/03/2025 6:07:09 AM PST
by
kawhill
("How did this guy look? Oh, sorta funny lookin'. In what way? Oh, kind of in a general way. I see." )
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