Ten dollars says the doctor never knew the name of the baby he was delivering. The vast majority don't. A huge number of women don't know the name of their child when they're born.
Posted on 02/05/2009 7:52:01 PM PST by MindBender26
Obama Born In The U.S. ? New Facts Say; “Probably Not!”
Let me be the first to admit that I have been a constant debunker of the “Obama Born Overseas” stories. How could it be possible? How could the DNC, Hillary, Edwards, the RNC, McCain, Romney, AP, BBC, ABC, FNC, etc, (and every 100th listing in the DC phone book) not have checked this out to its last level of possibility?
Well, it appears that they didn’t! Everyone assumed “the other guy did it.”
Forget for the moment all the clues left by the high-priced Obama and DNC legal teams. They are huge.
Obama and the DNC always argue “standing.” They could eliminate every legal challenge in 5 minutes by simply producing a certified copy of the original long-form birth certificate. Throw in the testimony of the Hawaii Registrar of Documents, a few retired FBI chief document examiners, and the doctor who delivered him for good measure.
If they did that in two or three courts of record, in light of the obvious media coverage it would receive, every other court nationwide would accept the precedence and the cases would all be over.
But they don’t. They keep telling the courts, “please don’t hear this case.” No proof of any kind. Just the legalese argument that the plaintiffs have no standing before that court.
That’s so overreaching, it’s like buying a refinery to get a 3000 mile oil change! And one day, some court is going to say…. “Show me the money, er,. ah, I mean, Show me the documents!”
But there is a second, and perhaps new point!
Where is that doctor who delivered him, or the midwife?
Stop and think. The delivery of a half Negro – half Caucasian baby was rare anyhere in 1961. Oriental babies were common in Hawaii of course, but a half Negro-half Caucasian baby with the funny name of Barrack Obama, in Hawaii? In 1961?
Even of you were a Republican, if you delivered a future President of the United States, wouldn’t you call some newspaper somewhere with your story. Or if you were the assistant obstetrician, or the anesthesiologist, or the scrub nurse?
What about the circulating nurse, or the pediatrician, one of a dozen nurses on the 24 hour-a-day shifts in the nursery, one of many nurses on the ward where Mrs. Obama would have stayed for three days, a records registrar, a technician of any kind, hell, even the janitor!
What about the clerks, ambulance drivers….. somebody ?!?!?!
Anybody ?!?!?!
Wouldn’t someone have been yelling their “credit” for this from the rooftops???? The date when he was born is (supposedly) known. Certainly all these (supposed) people would know where they were working then!
Where is somebody, anybody, who was there or even remembers the birth?
Sherlock Holmes once solved a case by noticing the dog that DID NOT bark.
Is this the same situation?
You are insisting on reading something into clearly written words that simply isn't there. I don't know why you are doing that.
I'm not making any implication. I am specifically and clearly stating that the analysis is "amateurish" and "nonsense".
Neither implies fraud. "Amateurish" means it is unprofessional. "Nonsense" means it is wrong.
Try this then:
You’re a real nut case!
“A person born here to non-citizen parents can only be a citizen if those parents were here under a resident alien visa, and thus having surrendered to the laws of the United States, IOW, there is no such thing as an “anchor baby.””
I’m sorry, but this is patently false. Pregnant Mexican women are always crossing over into California to deliver their babies. Those babies are citizens and are entitled to benefits. The government then has a hard time deporting the mothers, because they can’t deport the citizen infants, too.
Now, SCOTUS may have to rule on whether these babies are “natural born” citizens, but they are most definitely called “citizens”.
No, it is not false.
The media created the Anchor Baby fraud.
I’m 66 yrs. old, was born at home on a Sunday morning and Dr. Becker delivered me.
My Mother said afterwards the good doctor finished reading the Sunday newspaper at our house.
It was 1942 and my Dad was in the Navy.
The definition cannot be changed by simple passage of a statute by Congress. It means whatever it meant at the time that the Constitution was written.
Child not born of man?
Born on the outside of "nature"?
Interesting question.
NO INDEPENDENT PARTY has ever seen, in person, a real, paper COLB for Obama containing the information as posted on the Internet.
There is not one shred of evidence that this document exists. NONE.
There is, however, overwhelming, irrefutable evidence that a bogus COLB was manufactured for Obama and posted to the Internet -- Hawaii had nothing to do with this forgery.
FACTCHECK, owned by Annenberg, is a shill for Obama. Always has been.
Anyone who says that Obama's real COLB was posted on the Internet and that Factcheck verified it, is a liar and a fool. They never read my Final Report and they never will. They don't have the mental capacity to do so. Heck. They ask me to read it for them and explain it for them, too.
They only know how to lie and repeat the same things over and over like a dumb parrot.
I've called them out several times, telling them to put their money where their big mouth is. They've chickened out every time.
The only way to shut these gutless wonders up is to not respond to them at all. Let them talk among themselves.
Actually he would not be a citizen at all, unless later naturalized. That's all the law deals with, citizenship acquired at birth, not "natural born citizenship".
We’ve got a witness although I guess Obama would destroy her credibility if he needed to... his grandmother says she attended his birth in Kenya. When all else fails throw another grandma under the bus.
It’s a stupid easy case and apparently our political machine is too danged defunct to understand or care. So now we have a foreigner in office and nobody with any authority gives a rats rear. Remember, there are plenty of Repubs in office and in power that could have brought the case and raised the questions but for some reason...
maybe Arnold oughta try going for it. After the Obama debaucle, who could contest it?
LOL.
She likely could use a few grand.
No most have not been. They have been denied "stays", denied consideration before lower courts acted, and denied "injunctions", but the base cases mostly still remain.
Obama has presented no less evidence than any other candidate, and he has been no more evasive than any other candidate in recent history.
Obama is being evasive as to where he was born,
Not at all. He has always said he was born in Hawaii.
and that the contemporary media is reporting conflicting information as to what country
Not true. All that is happening is that some fringe internet sites with zero credibility are reporting unsubstantiated rumors of a birth in Kenya. That's it.
and what hospital he was born in.
I'll give you that one. There appears to have been some confusion as the precise hospital. I don't see why that matters, however, given that the hospital is irrelevant to his eligibility.
to the extent of hiring lawyers to shield the information instead of simply releasing the information,
Your premise that he his hiring lawyers to shield information is not true.
Thanks, fanfan. I clicked on the link and found this message:
“You have either reached a page that is unavailable for viewing or reached your viewing limit for this book.”
Ten dollars says the doctor never knew the name of the baby he was delivering. The vast majority don't. A huge number of women don't know the name of their child when they're born.
They avoid it like the plague it seems, in our judicial system.
Just to think! Arnold the Governator could have run for the presidency!
The law did specifically deny retroactivity, it only applied to people born on or after November 14, 1986, To be a citizen, if born outside the country, his mother would have needed to be at least 19 years old. She was not. (the US Citizen parent needed to have lived the country 10 years, 5 of which had to be after their 14th birthday, as opposed to 5 and 2 years in the current law).
Again, that's to be a citizen, which is not the same as a natural born citizen.
BTW, the section of the US Code is Title 8,CHAPTER 12,SUBCHAPTER III, section 1401 The law which changed the residency requirements in 1986 stated: “The amendment made by section 12 shall apply to persons born on or after November 14, 1986.”
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