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To: SteveH
A reasonable person, if he or she is a voter or federal government worker, and takes his or her responsibility seriously, would ask for evidence that Obama is qualified under the US Constitution.

Obama has presented no less evidence than any other candidate, and he has been no more evasive than any other candidate in recent history.

Obama is being evasive as to where he was born,

Not at all. He has always said he was born in Hawaii.

and that the contemporary media is reporting conflicting information as to what country

Not true. All that is happening is that some fringe internet sites with zero credibility are reporting unsubstantiated rumors of a birth in Kenya. That's it.

and what hospital he was born in.

I'll give you that one. There appears to have been some confusion as the precise hospital. I don't see why that matters, however, given that the hospital is irrelevant to his eligibility.

to the extent of hiring lawyers to shield the information instead of simply releasing the information,

Your premise that he his hiring lawyers to shield information is not true.

536 posted on 02/06/2009 6:32:00 PM PST by curiosity
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To: curiosity
Obama has presented no less evidence than any other candidate, and he has been no more evasive than any other candidate in recent history.

There have been no conflicting reports as to the location of any other President's birth. The most recent former President, George W. Bush, has only one reported birthplace, Grace New Haven Community Hospital in New Haven, Conn. Obama has at least three hospitals reported in the press, Kapoliani and Queens in Honolulu, Hawaii, and Coast Provincial General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya. Name another President that has three reported birthplaces, one outside the United States, and name another President who went to a Muslim country and changed his name and attended a public school that only accepted non-U.S. citizens. The argument that Obama presented no less evidence means nothing if Obama is not in fact qualified to be President under the Constitution. Nothing at all. It is a red herring.

Not at all. He has always said he was born in Hawaii.

He has responded to numerous lawsuits asking for his birth certificate by filing defense motions to dismiss. That is certainly distinct from "not at all (evasive)." That is the epitomy of being evasive. He is evading the question via the legal evasive maneuver of challenging standing. Hello?

Not true. All that is happening is that some fringe internet sites with zero credibility are reporting unsubstantiated rumors of a birth in Kenya. That's it.

Some of his family members are on record as witnessing his birth in Kenya. The Kenya Ambassador to the US is on record as claiming he was born in Kenya. Other citizens have signed affidavits that he was born in Kenya and those are on file in U.S. courts-- no need for any formal regurgitation by any secondary sources including any news media. None of this has happened to any other recent President.

I'll give you that one. There appears to have been some confusion as the precise hospital. I don't see why that matters, however, given that the hospital is irrelevant to his eligibility.

It matters because the creation of uncertainty of his exact location of birth dilutes whatever premise of legitimacy and authority his overall claim has. A hallmark of an untruth is that the more specifically it is checked, the more vague the untruth becomes. This is because the untruth is just that, untruthful. The hospital is relevant to Obama's claim that he was born in Honolulu because such information can be used to cross check the claim that he is qualified to be President. Conversely, without the hospital information, it is much more difficult to cross check the claim that he is qualified to be President.

Your premise that he his hiring lawyers to shield information is not true.

Wow. Lawyers are filing motions to dismiss in several of the cases filed to comple release of Obama's qualifications (if any) to be President under the NBC clause of the U.S. Constitution. Someone pays these lawyers. Are you saying none of these lawyers are filing motions to dismiss under Obama's direct or indirect knowledge and consent, if not payment? Or are you saying that Obama has some higher motive than shielding information?

616 posted on 02/07/2009 12:03:13 AM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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