There have been no conflicting reports as to the location of any other President's birth. The most recent former President, George W. Bush, has only one reported birthplace, Grace New Haven Community Hospital in New Haven, Conn. Obama has at least three hospitals reported in the press, Kapoliani and Queens in Honolulu, Hawaii, and Coast Provincial General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya. Name another President that has three reported birthplaces, one outside the United States, and name another President who went to a Muslim country and changed his name and attended a public school that only accepted non-U.S. citizens. The argument that Obama presented no less evidence means nothing if Obama is not in fact qualified to be President under the Constitution. Nothing at all. It is a red herring.
Not at all. He has always said he was born in Hawaii.
He has responded to numerous lawsuits asking for his birth certificate by filing defense motions to dismiss. That is certainly distinct from "not at all (evasive)." That is the epitomy of being evasive. He is evading the question via the legal evasive maneuver of challenging standing. Hello?
Not true. All that is happening is that some fringe internet sites with zero credibility are reporting unsubstantiated rumors of a birth in Kenya. That's it.
Some of his family members are on record as witnessing his birth in Kenya. The Kenya Ambassador to the US is on record as claiming he was born in Kenya. Other citizens have signed affidavits that he was born in Kenya and those are on file in U.S. courts-- no need for any formal regurgitation by any secondary sources including any news media. None of this has happened to any other recent President.
I'll give you that one. There appears to have been some confusion as the precise hospital. I don't see why that matters, however, given that the hospital is irrelevant to his eligibility.
It matters because the creation of uncertainty of his exact location of birth dilutes whatever premise of legitimacy and authority his overall claim has. A hallmark of an untruth is that the more specifically it is checked, the more vague the untruth becomes. This is because the untruth is just that, untruthful. The hospital is relevant to Obama's claim that he was born in Honolulu because such information can be used to cross check the claim that he is qualified to be President. Conversely, without the hospital information, it is much more difficult to cross check the claim that he is qualified to be President.
Your premise that he his hiring lawyers to shield information is not true.
Wow. Lawyers are filing motions to dismiss in several of the cases filed to comple release of Obama's qualifications (if any) to be President under the NBC clause of the U.S. Constitution. Someone pays these lawyers. Are you saying none of these lawyers are filing motions to dismiss under Obama's direct or indirect knowledge and consent, if not payment? Or are you saying that Obama has some higher motive than shielding information?
Steve - it is odd how these shill for O post multiple messages and spam any birth certificate threads. This happened just the other day on another thread where a shill for O spammed the thread all day long with multiple messages with the same content in each message.
He then sent me 24 emails say FU (spelled out) within a 20 minute period. There job is to just hijack threads and it is ALWAYS threads having to do with O’s BC.
No credible news outlet has reported he was born in Kenya, only fringe websites and blogs with zero credibility. There was some confusion a couple years back about whether he was born in Kapoliani or Queens hospital in Honolulu because at one point his younger half sister mistakenly told reporters he was born in Queens hospital. That a younger relative might get mixed up about the exact hospital is hardly suspicious.
name another President who went to a Muslim country and changed his name and attended a public school that only accepted non-U.S. citizens.
That he changed his name has not been substantiated. That he lived in Muslim country for four years as a child is not relevant to his eligibility, and it is simply not true that US citizens could not attend public schools in Indonesia.
He has responded to numerous lawsuits asking for his birth certificate by filing defense motions to dismiss. That is certainly distinct from "not at all (evasive)."
When someone files a firivolous lawsuit against you, the proper course of action is to file a motion to dismiss. There is nothing evasive about it.
That is the epitomy of being evasive. He is evading the question via the legal evasive maneuver of challenging standing. Hello?
Filing a motion to dismiss is not synonyous with evasiveness.
Some of his family members are on record as witnessing his birth in Kenya.
Not true.
The Kenya Ambassador to the US is on record as claiming he was born in Kenya.
The Kenyan disavows all such claims. Not being a native English speaker, he was confused by radio talkshow host's questions and answered incorrectly.
Even if he had made such a claim, it would be meaningless, since he is in no position to have any special information on Obama's birth place.
Other citizens have signed affidavits that he was born in Kenya and those are on file in U.S. courts--
Seeing as how the courts have dismissed all the cases they have ruled on, these affidavits don't seem to have much credibility.
The hospital is relevant to Obama's claim that he was born in Honolulu because such information can be used to cross check the claim that he is qualified to be President.
No it can't. Hospitals don't keep records that long.
Wow. Lawyers are filing motions to dismiss in several of the cases filed to comple release of Obama's qualifications (if any) to be President under the NBC clause of the U.S. Constitution. Someone pays these lawyers.
As far as I know, they've filed two routine motions to dimiss, which is the only way to respond to lawsuits such as this. All campaigns have lawyers working on retainer, which means they get paid a fixed amount per month to handle routine work like this. As a result, it is highly unlikely the motions to dimiss cost Obama anything extra. It would almost certainly be covered under the retainer.
Furthermore, filing a motion to dismiss a frivolous lawsuit does not constitute an attempt to shield information. It is the only way to respond.
I dunno about three, but off the top of my head, I can name more than one who has had at least two different reported birth places.
Andrew Jackson(^) & Chester A Arthur each have at least two reported birthplaces.
I can't name any who went to a Muslim country or attended a Muslim school as a child, but I can name at least one who was interested enough to have owned a personal copy of the Koran. What's up with that? Think Jefferson was a secret Muslim?
I can name at least one President of the United States who changed his name without thinking too hard about it. And unlike Obama, who may have had his name changed without his permission by a parent, President Leslie King didn't change his name until he was well into his 20's. What's up with that & what was he trying to hide?
And finally, children go to the schools their parents tell them to go to, they go by the name their parents tell them to go by, and they live where their parents tell them to live, so how do any of those things indict anyone for anything?