Posted on 02/05/2009 7:52:01 PM PST by MindBender26
Obama Born In The U.S. ? New Facts Say; Probably Not!
Let me be the first to admit that I have been a constant debunker of the Obama Born Overseas stories. How could it be possible? How could the DNC, Hillary, Edwards, the RNC, McCain, Romney, AP, BBC, ABC, FNC, etc, (and every 100th listing in the DC phone book) not have checked this out to its last level of possibility?
Well, it appears that they didnt! Everyone assumed the other guy did it.
Forget for the moment all the clues left by the high-priced Obama and DNC legal teams. They are huge.
Obama and the DNC always argue standing. They could eliminate every legal challenge in 5 minutes by simply producing a certified copy of the original long-form birth certificate. Throw in the testimony of the Hawaii Registrar of Documents, a few retired FBI chief document examiners, and the doctor who delivered him for good measure.
If they did that in two or three courts of record, in light of the obvious media coverage it would receive, every other court nationwide would accept the precedence and the cases would all be over.
But they dont. They keep telling the courts, please dont hear this case. No proof of any kind. Just the legalese argument that the plaintiffs have no standing before that court.
Thats so overreaching, its like buying a refinery to get a 3000 mile oil change! And one day, some court is going to say . Show me the money, er,. ah, I mean, Show me the documents!
But there is a second, and perhaps new point!
Where is that doctor who delivered him, or the midwife?
Stop and think. The delivery of a half Negro half Caucasian baby was rare anyhere in 1961. Oriental babies were common in Hawaii of course, but a half Negro-half Caucasian baby with the funny name of Barrack Obama, in Hawaii? In 1961?
Even of you were a Republican, if you delivered a future President of the United States, wouldnt you call some newspaper somewhere with your story. Or if you were the assistant obstetrician, or the anesthesiologist, or the scrub nurse?
What about the circulating nurse, or the pediatrician, one of a dozen nurses on the 24 hour-a-day shifts in the nursery, one of many nurses on the ward where Mrs. Obama would have stayed for three days, a records registrar, a technician of any kind, hell, even the janitor!
What about the clerks, ambulance drivers .. somebody ?!?!?!
Anybody ?!?!?!
Wouldnt someone have been yelling their credit for this from the rooftops???? The date when he was born is (supposedly) known. Certainly all these (supposed) people would know where they were working then!
Where is somebody, anybody, who was there or even remembers the birth?
Sherlock Holmes once solved a case by noticing the dog that DID NOT bark.
Is this the same situation?
(I'm going out for a little Veal Milaneese, Fettucini Alfredo and a rather delighful Lambrusco tonight.... and am already in the mood!)
Your comment was so spot on, as your provost, I am recommending you for the Law Review board!
So please tell us which hospital he was born in. that would settle the matter.
Excellent!
You “get it!”
Gentlemen: this question has not been settled by the courts. Hence I don't think it's fruitful to argue about it here.
Furthermore, we know Obama's father was not an illegal alien, so it is entirely irrelevant to the issue of his eligibility for the presidency.
I never heard about his mother being in Cuba. What’s that all about?
So the courts, of their own volition, made the decision to dismiss?
Then you propose that US troops be tried in other lands????
LOL!
An alien that has not surrendered to US jurisdiction is not under US jurisdiction.
So an illegal alien who commits murder in the US cannot be prosecuted or punished in the US ?!?!?!?
Who is teaching you this legal luncay? Professors Jim Beam and Jack Daniels?
PS. Those of us who grew up in Florida know that Orange Peel Liquor is good stiff.... but it has no standing as an A-Peel-s Court!
Why do you care? Did I miss the section of the constitution that says only those born in certain hospitals are eligible to be president?
Somewhere in Honolulu,
Yes, the short form COLB he released proves that he was born somewhere in Honolulu. That's enough to establish his eligbility for the presidency.
according to you, there is a hospital that can make the very prestigious claim to be the birthplace of the President of the United States.
Yes.
Just which hospital is making that claim?
Kapiolani Medical Center.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/23/AR2008082301620.html
Are you implying that people should know the name of the doctor who delivered them at birth?
Stop trying to make foolish arguments. It only makes you look more foolish.
Because there are numerous public records, photos, multiple newspaper articles with pictures (he was an Admiral’s kid!) of his birth in the CZ.
Wake up.
Criminals do not have to be "subject" to our laws to be tried for their crimes, but as recent events have shown, neither does that prevent their native land from taking up the issue in court.
Yes. It happens all the time. lawsuits are dismissed as frivolous, meritless, for lack of standing, etc., without the defendants ever having to do anything.
How many lawsuits do you think were filed against Bush in the last eight years? How much time did he spend in court? See where I'm going with this?
No. Waht does this have to do with US jurisdiction over illegal aliens?
I'm 64 years old, and the doctor that delivered me has been dead for 48 years, but I know his name.
Remember, economists exist to make astrologers look good by comparison!
There are jurisdictions in Afganistan that do wish to try some US troops as illegal interlopers.
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