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Obama Born In The U.S. ? New Facts And Questions Say; 'Probably Not!'
Source? Sherlock Holmes | MB26

Posted on 02/05/2009 7:52:01 PM PST by MindBender26

Obama Born In The U.S. ? New Facts Say; “Probably Not!”

Let me be the first to admit that I have been a constant debunker of the “Obama Born Overseas” stories. How could it be possible? How could the DNC, Hillary, Edwards, the RNC, McCain, Romney, AP, BBC, ABC, FNC, etc, (and every 100th listing in the DC phone book) not have checked this out to its last level of possibility?

Well, it appears that they didn’t! Everyone assumed “the other guy did it.”

Forget for the moment all the clues left by the high-priced Obama and DNC legal teams. They are huge.

Obama and the DNC always argue “standing.” They could eliminate every legal challenge in 5 minutes by simply producing a certified copy of the original long-form birth certificate. Throw in the testimony of the Hawaii Registrar of Documents, a few retired FBI chief document examiners, and the doctor who delivered him for good measure.

If they did that in two or three courts of record, in light of the obvious media coverage it would receive, every other court nationwide would accept the precedence and the cases would all be over.

But they don’t. They keep telling the courts, “please don’t hear this case.” No proof of any kind. Just the legalese argument that the plaintiffs have no standing before that court.

That’s so overreaching, it’s like buying a refinery to get a 3000 mile oil change! And one day, some court is going to say…. “Show me the money, er,. ah, I mean, Show me the documents!”

But there is a second, and perhaps new point!

Where is that doctor who delivered him, or the midwife?

Stop and think. The delivery of a half Negro – half Caucasian baby was rare anyhere in 1961. Oriental babies were common in Hawaii of course, but a half Negro-half Caucasian baby with the funny name of Barrack Obama, in Hawaii? In 1961?

Even of you were a Republican, if you delivered a future President of the United States, wouldn’t you call some newspaper somewhere with your story. Or if you were the assistant obstetrician, or the anesthesiologist, or the scrub nurse?

What about the circulating nurse, or the pediatrician, one of a dozen nurses on the 24 hour-a-day shifts in the nursery, one of many nurses on the ward where Mrs. Obama would have stayed for three days, a records registrar, a technician of any kind, hell, even the janitor!

What about the clerks, ambulance drivers….. somebody ?!?!?!

Anybody ?!?!?!

Wouldn’t someone have been yelling their “credit” for this from the rooftops???? The date when he was born is (supposedly) known. Certainly all these (supposed) people would know where they were working then!

Where is somebody, anybody, who was there or even remembers the birth?

Sherlock Holmes once solved a case by noticing the dog that DID NOT bark.

Is this the same situation?


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To: mlo
Lei è perfettamente corretto, il mio buono uomo!

(I'm going out for a little Veal Milaneese, Fettucini Alfredo and a rather delighful Lambrusco tonight.... and am already in the mood!)

Your comment was so spot on, as your provost, I am recommending you for the Law Review board!

381 posted on 02/06/2009 2:25:13 PM PST by MindBender26 (Does Obama want to end the USA as we know it? What indication has he given that he doesn't!?!)
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To: curiosity

So please tell us which hospital he was born in. that would settle the matter.


382 posted on 02/06/2009 2:25:41 PM PST by Wil H (No Accomplishments, No Experience, No Resume No Records, No References, Nobama..)
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To: Wil H

Excellent!

You “get it!”


383 posted on 02/06/2009 2:26:01 PM PST by MindBender26 (Does Obama want to end the USA as we know it? What indication has he given that he doesn't!?!)
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To: mlo; editor-surveyor
An illegal alien is still under the jurisdiction.

Gentlemen: this question has not been settled by the courts. Hence I don't think it's fruitful to argue about it here.

Furthermore, we know Obama's father was not an illegal alien, so it is entirely irrelevant to the issue of his eligibility for the presidency.

384 posted on 02/06/2009 2:27:17 PM PST by curiosity
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To: Wil H
There is some debate that, in the case of a foreign born child registered in Hawaii, the COLB shows the place of registration as the the place of birth. Normally that would be the same place, but not necessarily. If that is true, the COLB is still not definitive in establishing him as a natural born citizen.

I don't see what there is to debate given that the Hawaii statute that allows the issuance of birth certificates to those born out of state did not exist until 1982.

Here's the deal, - I'll tell you in exactly what hospital, and where, John McCain was born, and you tell us in exactly what hospital, and where, 0bama was born.

How will you do that given the fact that neither McCain nor his campaign have ever provided any copy of his birth certificate, long form, short form or otherwise, for the public?


385 posted on 02/06/2009 2:29:46 PM PST by Michael Michael
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To: celtic gal

I never heard about his mother being in Cuba. What’s that all about?


386 posted on 02/06/2009 2:31:11 PM PST by Crystal Cove
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To: Drew68

So the courts, of their own volition, made the decision to dismiss?


387 posted on 02/06/2009 2:32:25 PM PST by Yooper4Life
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To: curiosity

Then you propose that US troops be tried in other lands????


388 posted on 02/06/2009 2:32:40 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: trumandogz

LOL!


389 posted on 02/06/2009 2:33:37 PM PST by Crystal Cove
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To: editor-surveyor
No, by international law established by treaty, illegal aliens are under the jurisdiction of their native country. That is the basis of the suits filed by the Mexican Government against President Bush Re: Mexican nationals tried in US courts in Texas.

An alien that has not surrendered to US jurisdiction is not under US jurisdiction.

So an illegal alien who commits murder in the US cannot be prosecuted or punished in the US ?!?!?!?

Who is teaching you this legal luncay? Professors Jim Beam and Jack Daniels?

PS. Those of us who grew up in Florida know that Orange Peel Liquor is good stiff.... but it has no standing as an A-Peel-s Court!

390 posted on 02/06/2009 2:33:57 PM PST by MindBender26 (Does Obama want to end the USA as we know it? What indication has he given that he doesn't!?!)
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To: Wil H
Why don't you tell us which hospital he was born in and the name of any witnesses and the name of the attending physician?

Why do you care? Did I miss the section of the constitution that says only those born in certain hospitals are eligible to be president?

Somewhere in Honolulu,

Yes, the short form COLB he released proves that he was born somewhere in Honolulu. That's enough to establish his eligbility for the presidency.

according to you, there is a hospital that can make the very prestigious claim to be the birthplace of the President of the United States.

Yes.

Just which hospital is making that claim?

Kapiolani Medical Center.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/23/AR2008082301620.html

391 posted on 02/06/2009 2:34:54 PM PST by curiosity
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To: LachlanMinnesota

Are you implying that people should know the name of the doctor who delivered them at birth?


392 posted on 02/06/2009 2:36:32 PM PST by Crystal Cove
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To: Michael Michael

Stop trying to make foolish arguments. It only makes you look more foolish.

Because there are numerous public records, photos, multiple newspaper articles with pictures (he was an Admiral’s kid!) of his birth in the CZ.

Wake up.


393 posted on 02/06/2009 2:36:41 PM PST by MindBender26 (Does Obama want to end the USA as we know it? What indication has he given that he doesn't!?!)
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To: MindBender26
"So an illegal alien who commits murder in the US cannot be prosecuted or punished in the US ?"

Criminals do not have to be "subject" to our laws to be tried for their crimes, but as recent events have shown, neither does that prevent their native land from taking up the issue in court.

394 posted on 02/06/2009 2:37:44 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Yooper4Life
So the courts, of their own volition, made the decision to dismiss?

Yes. It happens all the time. lawsuits are dismissed as frivolous, meritless, for lack of standing, etc., without the defendants ever having to do anything.

How many lawsuits do you think were filed against Bush in the last eight years? How much time did he spend in court? See where I'm going with this?

395 posted on 02/06/2009 2:38:20 PM PST by Drew68
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To: editor-surveyor
Then you propose that US troops be tried in other lands????

No. Waht does this have to do with US jurisdiction over illegal aliens?

396 posted on 02/06/2009 2:39:47 PM PST by curiosity
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To: Crystal Cove
"Are you implying that people should know the name of the doctor who delivered them at birth?"

I'm 64 years old, and the doctor that delivered me has been dead for 48 years, but I know his name.

397 posted on 02/06/2009 2:40:24 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Wil H
Remember, “Curiosity” states he is an economist by profession. We all know economists problems with those nasty, pesky things called “facts.”

Remember, economists exist to make astrologers look good by comparison!

398 posted on 02/06/2009 2:40:35 PM PST by MindBender26 (Does Obama want to end the USA as we know it? What indication has he given that he doesn't!?!)
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To: LachlanMinnesota
I don't know the name of the doctor who delivered me, and yet I can (and have) used my short form birth certificate to prove I was born in the USA.
399 posted on 02/06/2009 2:41:59 PM PST by curiosity
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To: curiosity

There are jurisdictions in Afganistan that do wish to try some US troops as illegal interlopers.


400 posted on 02/06/2009 2:42:07 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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