Posted on 02/05/2009 7:52:01 PM PST by MindBender26
Obama Born In The U.S. ? New Facts Say; “Probably Not!”
Let me be the first to admit that I have been a constant debunker of the “Obama Born Overseas” stories. How could it be possible? How could the DNC, Hillary, Edwards, the RNC, McCain, Romney, AP, BBC, ABC, FNC, etc, (and every 100th listing in the DC phone book) not have checked this out to its last level of possibility?
Well, it appears that they didn’t! Everyone assumed “the other guy did it.”
Forget for the moment all the clues left by the high-priced Obama and DNC legal teams. They are huge.
Obama and the DNC always argue “standing.” They could eliminate every legal challenge in 5 minutes by simply producing a certified copy of the original long-form birth certificate. Throw in the testimony of the Hawaii Registrar of Documents, a few retired FBI chief document examiners, and the doctor who delivered him for good measure.
If they did that in two or three courts of record, in light of the obvious media coverage it would receive, every other court nationwide would accept the precedence and the cases would all be over.
But they don’t. They keep telling the courts, “please don’t hear this case.” No proof of any kind. Just the legalese argument that the plaintiffs have no standing before that court.
That’s so overreaching, it’s like buying a refinery to get a 3000 mile oil change! And one day, some court is going to say…. “Show me the money, er,. ah, I mean, Show me the documents!”
But there is a second, and perhaps new point!
Where is that doctor who delivered him, or the midwife?
Stop and think. The delivery of a half Negro – half Caucasian baby was rare anyhere in 1961. Oriental babies were common in Hawaii of course, but a half Negro-half Caucasian baby with the funny name of Barrack Obama, in Hawaii? In 1961?
Even of you were a Republican, if you delivered a future President of the United States, wouldn’t you call some newspaper somewhere with your story. Or if you were the assistant obstetrician, or the anesthesiologist, or the scrub nurse?
What about the circulating nurse, or the pediatrician, one of a dozen nurses on the 24 hour-a-day shifts in the nursery, one of many nurses on the ward where Mrs. Obama would have stayed for three days, a records registrar, a technician of any kind, hell, even the janitor!
What about the clerks, ambulance drivers….. somebody ?!?!?!
Anybody ?!?!?!
Wouldn’t someone have been yelling their “credit” for this from the rooftops???? The date when he was born is (supposedly) known. Certainly all these (supposed) people would know where they were working then!
Where is somebody, anybody, who was there or even remembers the birth?
Sherlock Holmes once solved a case by noticing the dog that DID NOT bark.
Is this the same situation?
No, I want to spend some time to do it very well, get on-camera interviews with the people involved, certified copies of the records, etc, so there can be no doubt about the matter, be paid very well for my work, and then fly First Class to Bangkok on Singapore Airlines, then go lay on the beach in Phuket for two weeks, drink great liquids, and remember to thank you every day for everything!
:`)
>>>>A “natural born” citizen’s parents are both citizens at the time of birth.
I’m sorry, but your answer is legally incorrect. There are many other ways. I send you a filed brief on it later.
Did you really sign up here to spread disinformation about our non-citizen president?
Are you here to “cool the marks?”
No, my answer is legally correct. It is as defined by the person that created the term. The term has only constitutional meaning; it has no other purpose.
There were also few birth mothers named "Stanley" back in those days. I imagine an ob-gyn might find that kind of memorable.
S.301 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA).
Citizenship is acquired , and "naturally born" is a prima facie assumption.So the question is what is "Unaturally born?"
Many servicemen and women have children abroad foeign postings, and this is how they obtain citizenship. But it would be rather gauche to suggest that hey are NOT naturally born in most instances of citizenship law contests involving the issue ( ie. qualifying for an SS number etc.) Of course one of the areas where that definition is an issue is in Article II , section 1 of the constitution.
There is a reason it is not defined. It simply has not had to be, yet.
Perhaps an Obama case will do so.
This business of worrying about dollar amounts for legal expenses is just a distraction. The Usurper has a defense team and, presumably, he pays them what their work is worth. But not very much, perhaps, if they use Fatcheck as a source of documentation!
He’s been bounced already.
No offense but that announcement don't cut it. Anyone can put that announcement in whether they were born there or not. In fact, the address on that announcement is suspect, as the neighbor of that address has lived there since before 1961 and claims Obama's NEVER LIVED THERE.
It is THIS KIND OF BIRTH ANNOUNCEMENT that you want. That link is from an Indianapolis paper, which always, I repeat always, posts births from local hospitals. And its the HOSPITALS who submit the data.
Now if you can come up with THIS KIND OF NEWSPAPER BIRTH ANNOUNCEMENT for Jr. maybe we can get somewhere.................
The BC thing is new to me. I will have to search on it.
Thanks for bring it up to my attention.
Take care,
John
Anything I can do to help!
I agree with the Dr who said that he would not remember who the babies were that he delivered 20, 30 years ago. Also, many half black babies are very light when they are born. It could well have been impossible to notice any black in him at all as it is today.
Good point; maybe the Obots just e-bomb judges until the laugh the cases out of court. Low cost but effective.
Where can you have been hiding? Its been the hottest issue here since June. ;o)
B.O.’s behavior isn’t exactly consistent with the “reasonable man theory,” is it?
Re: “No offense but that announcement don’t cut it. Anyone can put that announcement in whether they were born there or not.”
Do you have a source for that statement? My understanding from visiting both paper’s websites is that today, they require proof of birth (copy of BC). In 1961, they took their information directly from the Health Bureau Statistics. In other words, they did not permit parents to submit birth announcements based on information that the Health Bureau - not parents - submitted to the paper. (You can even see at the top of at least one of the announcements, that the info came from the Health Bureau.)
Sorry - runon sentence! I meant ... In other words, they did not permit parents to submit announcements. They only published birth announcements based on information that the Health Bureau - not parents - submitted to the paper.
Hawaiian citizens, and citizens of other states, have a legitimate need to register the births of children born outside the country. This ability does not mean that the birth certificate will LIE. The place of birth is the place of birth. Obama's says he was born in Honolulu.
No, there is no legal requirement that the parents be citizens. A "natural born" citizen is one that has citizenship by birth.
"A person born here to non-citizen parents can only be a citizen if those parents were here under a resident alien visa, and thus having surrendered to the laws of the United States, IOW, there is no such thing as an “anchor baby.”"
US law is that a child born in the US is a citizen, regardless of the citizenship of the parents.
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