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Obama Born In The U.S. ? New Facts And Questions Say; 'Probably Not!'
Source? Sherlock Holmes | MB26

Posted on 02/05/2009 7:52:01 PM PST by MindBender26

Obama Born In The U.S. ? New Facts Say; “Probably Not!”

Let me be the first to admit that I have been a constant debunker of the “Obama Born Overseas” stories. How could it be possible? How could the DNC, Hillary, Edwards, the RNC, McCain, Romney, AP, BBC, ABC, FNC, etc, (and every 100th listing in the DC phone book) not have checked this out to its last level of possibility?

Well, it appears that they didn’t! Everyone assumed “the other guy did it.”

Forget for the moment all the clues left by the high-priced Obama and DNC legal teams. They are huge.

Obama and the DNC always argue “standing.” They could eliminate every legal challenge in 5 minutes by simply producing a certified copy of the original long-form birth certificate. Throw in the testimony of the Hawaii Registrar of Documents, a few retired FBI chief document examiners, and the doctor who delivered him for good measure.

If they did that in two or three courts of record, in light of the obvious media coverage it would receive, every other court nationwide would accept the precedence and the cases would all be over.

But they don’t. They keep telling the courts, “please don’t hear this case.” No proof of any kind. Just the legalese argument that the plaintiffs have no standing before that court.

That’s so overreaching, it’s like buying a refinery to get a 3000 mile oil change! And one day, some court is going to say…. “Show me the money, er,. ah, I mean, Show me the documents!”

But there is a second, and perhaps new point!

Where is that doctor who delivered him, or the midwife?

Stop and think. The delivery of a half Negro – half Caucasian baby was rare anyhere in 1961. Oriental babies were common in Hawaii of course, but a half Negro-half Caucasian baby with the funny name of Barrack Obama, in Hawaii? In 1961?

Even of you were a Republican, if you delivered a future President of the United States, wouldn’t you call some newspaper somewhere with your story. Or if you were the assistant obstetrician, or the anesthesiologist, or the scrub nurse?

What about the circulating nurse, or the pediatrician, one of a dozen nurses on the 24 hour-a-day shifts in the nursery, one of many nurses on the ward where Mrs. Obama would have stayed for three days, a records registrar, a technician of any kind, hell, even the janitor!

What about the clerks, ambulance drivers….. somebody ?!?!?!

Anybody ?!?!?!

Wouldn’t someone have been yelling their “credit” for this from the rooftops???? The date when he was born is (supposedly) known. Certainly all these (supposed) people would know where they were working then!

Where is somebody, anybody, who was there or even remembers the birth?

Sherlock Holmes once solved a case by noticing the dog that DID NOT bark.

Is this the same situation?


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To: CitizenM

evcept for the part where his sister says Obama was born at one of two hospitals in Hawaii(I forget the names)


81 posted on 02/05/2009 8:44:47 PM PST by Vendome
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To: LachlanMinnesota
New arguments are not new information...sorry. None of them would speak if they were honoring their commitment to patient confidentiality. There also may not be that many people involved that are still living.

What Frickin' commitment to patient confidentiality? Is there any evidence that the mother ever asked the people involved in Bozo's birth not to talk about it? That is a BS supposition, the obvious answer is that he was not born in HA so there is no one to come forth and claim status as "the person who was there when jug ears was born!".

82 posted on 02/05/2009 8:45:13 PM PST by calex59
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To: Tax Government
I have had a rough day with computer headaches and your post made me laugh!
Yes I can see the similarities too..when he smiles he had big bunny teeth but at least the tooth fairy mother made em straight and white..and the ears..well that is from the father’s side...bunny did it.
83 posted on 02/05/2009 8:45:14 PM PST by celtic gal (I think the democRATs should change their logo from a jackass to a RAT with a long tail.)
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To: Yooper4Life
But, why go through the trouble to obtain the watered-down short form dated 2007 (I mean, he actually had to go out of his way to get it from Hawaii), when he could just pull the one he found in 1986 or whenever from his safe.

Or he can continue to do absolutely nothing as case after case gets tossed out of court. This seems to have been working well for him so far.

84 posted on 02/05/2009 8:46:07 PM PST by Drew68
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To: OrangeDaisy

I remember when I was younger and that was a long time ago way before you and my mother had to get ss numbers for myself, my brother and sister. I believe we got them when we were 5 years old and that was way before 1960.


85 posted on 02/05/2009 8:46:13 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Candor7
There is yet no overiding federal jurisdiction to breech this confidentiality.

I am guessing that you think the constitution requirement that the Presidential candidate be born a natural citizen is not an overriding jurisdiction?

86 posted on 02/05/2009 8:47:25 PM PST by calex59
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

James Henry “Red” Duke, Jr. (born 1928) is a Texas legend. He is trauma surgeon and professor at The University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston. He has been working on-site since 1972.

Duke attended Texas A&M University in College Station, Texas where he served as a yell leader. He was the first person to deliver the poem “The Last Corps Trip” publicly.

Duke has had years of achievement in the field of medicine. He was instrumental in introducing and expanding the Vietnam-proven civilian helicopter “Medivac” and the Level 1 Trauma Unit system to American medicine.

Outside of Texas, he is probably most famous for running a nationally syndicated television spot called “Dr. Red Duke’s Health Reports”, which aired for fifteen years. The spots educated millions about various health-related topics, a different subject for each day. He is well-recognized for his distinctive Texas accent, ever-present large mustache and “Duke-isms” (like his popular segment sign-off “For your health!”).

In addition to his medical work, in his spare time, he was an excellent bronc rider on the professional rodeo circuit! Dennis Weaver played him on a TV series patterned after his life.


87 posted on 02/05/2009 8:47:53 PM PST by MindBender26 (Does Obama want to end the USA as we know it? What indication has he given that he doesn't!?!)
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To: MindBender26

Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya. Betchya.


88 posted on 02/05/2009 8:48:25 PM PST by curt9988
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To: LachlanMinnesota

Simple. He doesn’t have a birth certificate. If he could, he’d produce one.


89 posted on 02/05/2009 8:48:27 PM PST by quintr
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To: MindBender26

If you or anyone else had any evidence of this of any merit, it would be scrutinized in the courts, not to mention by the mainstream media. That no one has produced this evidence, and that—despite the countervailing evidence of a certified birth certificate, a birth announcement in the local newspaper (What, do you think they’ve been planning this since he was born?), and the absence of claims to the contrary by anyone who knew his family then—people like you persist in absurd speculations like this, suggests to me that your ideology is so exhausted and desperate that it has come to rely upon delusion to save itself. Is conservatism experiencing a kind of cultural anomie?


90 posted on 02/05/2009 8:48:27 PM PST by zacharyroyce
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To: MindBender26

Evidence? None presented in this article.


91 posted on 02/05/2009 8:48:27 PM PST by zacharyroyce
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To: utahagen
Not only that question of where he was born..which most of us think may well have been Kenya but there is also the question of paternity. His mother had been in Cuba for some time and it has been reported though I don't know if it is correct, that when she got to Hawaii she was already in a family way when she met 0bama the Sr...on the other hand...his 0bama sire had a habit of wandering around the tents of other women and seems from some signals that 0bama Jr has similar traits if the gossip is to be believed...Michelle has had issue with a woman Vera something and didn't appreciate Beyonce either..so..Zero may also have that wandering thingy.
92 posted on 02/05/2009 8:49:47 PM PST by celtic gal (I think the democRATs should change their logo from a jackass to a RAT with a long tail.)
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To: Candor7; Protect the Bill of Rights

Bump!


93 posted on 02/05/2009 8:50:00 PM PST by maggief
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To: Pravious

If Obama were disqualified, wouldn’t Biden be president or does the Obama ticket sink?


94 posted on 02/05/2009 8:52:38 PM PST by quintr
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To: LachlanMinnesota

Its not the mother’s confidentiality that is at issue, it is Obama’s rights that the medical people would try to protect.
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Once again I will state that HIPAA wasn’t around in 1961 ,, also stating that John Doe was delivered by Jim Smith at xx:xx am on xx,xx,1961 with Jane Doe assisting with the delivery in Downtown Hospital is NOT A CONFIDENTIALITY ISSUE ,, it is a matter of public record ,, the problems would occur if they disclosed that he had jaundice , contracted herpes from mom or something similar...

Maybe you should worry more about our rights ,, specifically our right to KNOW (not guess) that our leader is eligible in the eyes of the constitution.


95 posted on 02/05/2009 8:52:38 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: retrogo
Not only the McCain idiocy, also this associate lawyer for Obama's finance committee in Chicago, who says the natural born clause is racist and the only way around it is Global government. Obama, Biden, Axelturf, want Global power.

http://lawreview.kentlaw.edu/articles/81-1/Herlihy.pdf

The natural born citizen requirement in Article II of the United States Constitution has been called the “stupidest provision” in the Constitution,1 “undecidedly un-American,”2

The increased globalization of the world continues to make each of these reasons more persuasive. As the world becomes smaller and cultures become more similar through globalization, the natural born citi-zen clause has increasingly become out of place in the American legal sys-tem. However, even though globalization strengthens the case for a Constitutional amendment, many Americans argue against abolishing the requirement.

96 posted on 02/05/2009 8:53:25 PM PST by OafOfOffice
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To: zacharyroyce
Evidence? None presented in this article. Perhaps, but questions, Mon Dieu? Non? It is the giant dog that is NOT barking that we must watch, not the little legal Yorkies nipping at our heels.
97 posted on 02/05/2009 8:54:31 PM PST by MindBender26 (Does Obama want to end the USA as we know it? What indication has he given that he doesn't!?!)
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To: Neidermeyer
Maybe you should worry more about our rights ,, specifically our right to KNOW (not guess) that our leader is eligible in the eyes of the constitution.

Thank you!

98 posted on 02/05/2009 8:55:47 PM PST by OafOfOffice
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To: quintr

Now that he was inaugerated, Biden. Under the 25th Ammendment.


99 posted on 02/05/2009 8:56:10 PM PST by MindBender26 (Does Obama want to end the USA as we know it? What indication has he given that he doesn't!?!)
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To: calex59

I agree...don’t get me wrong. I don’t think there is anyone who can honestly say that he was born in Hawaii. I was just pointing out what the other wside would argue as a rationale for not having anyone come forward. The only people speaking up are in Kenya! Therefore, he was a British citizen when born, IMHO.

We have lost the stomach for the hard truths in this country in many ways, and there is an institutional desire to allow this man to be President. The powers that be have spoken, and I believe this will not change the outcome, because the fix is in.

We need to attack his policies now, and defeat him on the merits.

I also think that it is ironic that the man who claims that all these plaintiffs in the suits to make him prove his citizenship lack standing, is the very person who lacks standing to be President.

I advocate the passage of a law that requires proof of citzenship qualifications as part of the election process at the time a candidate is registered as a candidate - the information to be made public in ever state and territory in which voting is permitted.

This will not even be introduced, however.


100 posted on 02/05/2009 8:56:12 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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