Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom
Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.
The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.
The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.
Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.
McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.
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He's running for President. Citizenship is not enough to qualify, otherwise Schwarzenegger could be President.
Dear Lord, do I have to explain this on every Obama B/C thread?
Yeah, why can't conservatives strive for the "fake-but-accurate" reputation, too?!
The words and intent of the Constitution. Some people don't think that the words have any meaning at all. I do.
Apparently so. And sometimes several times on the same thread.
1. The real one shows that Obama is not really a citizen.
2. The real one shows October Surprise material, something so bad that it may interfere very badly with his campaign. There has been specualtion, for instance, that the original will somehow provide evidence that his father was married to one or more women other than his mother. Just an indication that his parents represented themselves to the State as unmarried would be enough evidence to get somebody on that trail and open that can of worms.
3. Obama is so incompetent he can't successfully oversee the maintenance of his personal documents.
None of those possibilities is very palatable to me, an American who was already wondering with horror how the heck this neophyte got to be seriously considered for the job of leading the free world.
If that is true, then Congress has the power to make Arnold Schwarzenegger a "Natural Born Citizen" merely by declaring him one.
I believe post #564 is addressed to you.
You have not demonstrated that BHO used an original embossed and stamped birth certificate to get his passport. There are a number of substitute documents that can be used for the purposes of getting a passport, as detailed in post #564.
Therefore the validity or even the existence of a document he may not have even used to get a passport is moot.
The validity of what he is purporting to be his BC on his web site is still very much in play.
As it is neither embossed, nor stamped, and shows some electronic fingerprints of tampering, it is hardly proof positive of his birth as a citizen.
This guy is either a fagola who cannot admit his age or a man occupying space/time in a most unusual manner. You decide.
I understand completely. You see folks doing this over and over.. posting summaries in new threads.. and you think.. gosh.. they should give it up.. but honestly its a service just like the folks who do lists. It saves alot of ignorant posts fighting over facts.
What we need is a Free Republic Wiki that integrates with the threads so that we can access them and manage articles that summarize our understanding of each topic so that as new facts and info is added we don't have to keep repeating ourselves in the threads to maintain a memory of what has already been established.
Good grief- as of a minute ago there are:
20,804+ views
I’m not apologizing- just acknowledging there are more than a few freepers who disagree with the focus this topic is receiving- it’s a reasonable point of view.
And yet...there are so many nagging doubts and questions- it’s equally reasonable NOT to let this go til we have satisfactory answers.
Based on the words, he would qualify for office.
Based on the intent, he would qualify for office.
As do I. That should be obvious from #805, but also ones such as #360.
*placemark*
Apparently...
...and often to the very same people.
uh...that post was supposed to have your words before my last graf. I was saying that I believe the words of the Constitution have meaning.
IF and only IF he actually WAS born in Hawai’i.
The fact that the ONLY document saying he was may be fake doesn’t bother you?
Why is that?
Second, even if Obama is absolutely, positively, 110% a naturalized citizen, why is it stupid for us to wonder why a presidential candidate would be unwilling to provide a copy of this minor document? Why is it stupid to wonder why it is so secret that he was willing to produce a forgery in its place? And if Obama didn't know it was a forgery, what does it say about his competence? Why are those questions stupid?
Third, Ernbatavia...are you sure he was born in Hawaii...because we haven't seen a birth certificate!
This was inacted in 1986 and the key word here is PROVIDED. Baracks parents were not military,employed with the U.S. Government, or an Internatioal Organization defined in section 288. It does not say this is retroactive either.
Barack fits into the law that was in place in 1961. Citizen parent has to have been a U.S. citizen 10yrs. 5 before the age of 16 and 5 after the age 16. Baracks mother gave birth at 18yrs so she did not meet the 5 yrs after the age of 16.
Now all this only applies if he was born in Kenya or outside the U.S. and since they are furnishing a phony birth certificate it makes one wonder what he is hiding.
Point of order. That should say:
Third, Ernbatavia...are you sure he was born in Hawaii...because we haven't seen a known, unquestionably valid birth certificate!
It's a minor, but very crucial point...
The fake certificate has been featured on Obama's fight the smears website. That's either fraud or incompetence, and either is evidence against this candidate being qualified to lead the USA.
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