Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Posted on 02/19/2005 7:36:30 AM PST by Woodworker
Panel says professor of human origins made up data, plagiarized works
A flamboyant anthropology professor, whose work had been cited as evidence Neanderthal man once lived in Northern Europe, has resigned after a German university panel ruled he fabricated data and plagiarized the works of his colleagues. Reiner Protsch von Zieten, a Frankfurt university panel ruled, lied about the age of human skulls, dating them tens of thousands of years old, even though they were much younger, reports Deutsche Welle. "The commission finds that Prof. Protsch has forged and manipulated scientific facts over the past 30 years," the university said of the widely recognized expert in carbon data in a prepared statement.
Protsch's work first came under suspicion last year during a routine investigation of German prehistoric remains by two other anthropologists. "We had decided to subject many of these finds to modern techniques to check their authenticity so we sent them to Oxford [University] for testing," one of the researchers told The Sunday Telegraph. "It was a routine examination and in no way an attempt to discredit Prof. von Zieten." In their report, they called Protsch's 30 years of work a "dating disaster."
Among their findings was an age of only 3,300 years for the female "Bischof-Speyer" skeleton, found with unusually good teeth in Northern Germany, that Protsch dated to 21,300 years. Another dating error was identified for a skull found near Paderborn, Germany, that Protsch dated at 27,400 years old. It was believed to be the oldest human remain found in the region until the Oxford investigations indicated it belonged to an elderly man who died in 1750. The Herne anthropological museum, which owned the Paderborn skull, did its own tests following the unsettling results. "We had the skull cut open and it still smelt," said the museum's director. "We are naturally very disappointed."
Protsch, known for his love of Cuban cigars and Porsches, did not comment on the commission's findings, but in January he told the Frankfurter Neue Presse, "This was a court of inquisition. They don't have a single piece of hard evidence against me." The fallout from Protsch's false dating of northern European bone finds is only beginning.
Chris Stringer, a Stone Age specialist and head of human origins at London's Natural History Museum, said: "What was considered a major piece of evidence showing that the Neanderthals once lived in northern Europe has fallen by the wayside. We are having to rewrite prehistory." "Anthropology now has to revise its picture of modern man between 40,000 and 10,000 B.C.," added Thomas Terberger, an archaeologist at the University of Greifswald. Frankfurt University's president, Rudolf Steinberg, apologized for the university's failure to curb Protsch's misconduct for decades. "A lot of people looked the other way," he said.
Did you all catch that?
The skull is only 255 years old, yet it appeared to be a NEANDERTHAL Skull!!
Based upon appearance, it was CALLED NEANDERTHAL!!
This PROVES that evolution is wrong, for Neanderthals have been so called ancient human ancestors, not supposed to exist today, yet when we find a similar looking skull, we label it NEANDERTHAL...only the Skull is only 255 years old!!
Evolution is such a fun theory, you can think up anything from microbes on meteors to aliens with a mission to populate the planet, but if someone says, "In the beginning, God...
Actually, this does not Prove Noah's fllod, it only proves evolution is based upon fairy tales! :)
Actually, this does not Prove Noah's flood, it only proves evolution is based upon fairy tales! :)
Given the lag nature of the process, falsification can stand up in the short term, but it will be exposed, and the process will move on. That is one of the great strengths of science. Creationists, on the other hand, sheepishly advise that maybe (although feel free to continue to use them if you must), the Paluxy river tracks and the second law of thermodynamics "arguments" might not be very sound!
Thanks for the ping!
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
They only accept Carbon dating if it proves scientists wrong. Of course, creationists ignore the fact they don't do any science and could not find something wrong if their lives depended on it.
Yet, they know enough to know that all of biology is wrong.
It gives cognitive dissonance new frontiers.
There are people who do not think evolution has advanced beyond the theory stage, because it hasn't, who do not subscribe to the young earth belief. Noah's ark may or may not be true, I don't know, do you?
What I do know is there are many holes in the theory of evolution and many, many fakes have been advanced as "proof" that evolution is fact not theory. The reason for the fakes is that hard proof is sorely lacking. This lack of proof is the only fact in the theory of evolution.
To lump all people who do not give credence to evolution as whacko nut jobs who lack education in science is just a little on the liberal side don't you think?
To cite just a few fakes that are proven and so well proven that I will not provide links, if you want to google them you can find them easily enough. 1.)Nebraska man. 2.)One of the best known, Piltdown man.3.) The dino to bird fakes, most notably that of Archaeoraptor liaoningensis, which was supposedly discovered in China and was printed up in National Geographic and later turned out to be a fake comprised of 88 different bones glued together. 4.) The well known horse chart showing the Hyrax as the first early horse, which turned out not to be a horse at all. The order of the horses shown in the chart was also fake. 5.) The fake chart and drawings showing the development of the fetus that supposedly cycled through all the stages of evolution. This was proven to be fake almost immediately but schools kept this chart in text books and taught it as fact for over 40 years.
All these and many more fakes have made many people sceptical about evolution. You don't have to be a creationists or beliver in ID to doubt evolution. I for one do not rule out a third possibility that will someday come to light. In the meantime I will adhere to my belief that evolution is just a theory because it has never been proven to be anything else. Anyone who thinks it is fact has simply not studied all the evidence with an open mind.
Let me reiterate. I am not religious, I do not believe in ID, but also I know evolution to not be proven. I doubt it ever will be. It requires just as much faith to believe in evolution as creationists need to believe in ID.
YEC INTREP - a blow to supposed unbiased-science
Where does that leave those of us who have examined the evidence, and don't believe in Cod?
I think you might be better served reading something other than creationist propaganda if you want to question the validity of evolution.
"The creationoids will have a ball with this. They can add it to their tiny list of fraudulent finds, like Piltdown Man. But it should be noted that the frauds were exposed by scientists, not creationists (who deny the validity of the means used to test the fossils)."
Applying the creationoid standard to Christianity means that every digraced pervert priest, every adulterating, money-laundering televangelist, and every action of fringe Christian cults only mean that Christianity is itself a farce.
You should believe in Cod. Just for the halibut.
"It's only about sex!"
"I'd had a lovely supper, and all I said to my wife was, 'That piece of halibut was good enough for Jehovah!'"
I have never seen a satisfactory reply to this particular accusation of double-standards. In fact I'm not sure that I've even ever seen a creationist attempt to explain why scientific fraud (uncovered by scientists, as usual ) invalidates all of science, yet religious fraud does not weaken religion in the least. While we are about it let us not forget that wonderful fraud, the Turin Shroud (shown to be fraudulent by scientists using C-14 dating, not by the power of prayer; how richly ironic in the context of the current debate)
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