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Do the FBI Files concerning the VVAW (Kerry's antiwar group) indicate a plot against Pres. Nixon?
FBI Files on Vietnam Veterans Against the War and John Kerry ^ | Jan - Feb 1971 | FBI Files

Posted on 08/26/2004 2:47:43 PM PDT by stockpirate

There appears to be concern here about the safty of President Nixon while he is visiting his compound in Fla. The FBI report is from the Miami office of the FBI.

Start on page 10 read until bottom of page 13 http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/fbifiles/100-HQ-448092/Section%2013/Section%2013.pdf


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To: stockpirate

Ok, I'll take my tin hat off now. You're very knowledgeable!


21 posted on 08/26/2004 3:56:40 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: Sacajaweau

Yeah, I remember she was a lawyer for the impeachment committee or something like that .. and I also remember during Bill's impeachment that it was shown that what the Clinton's demanded for Bill (his own attorney), Hillary DENIED FOR NIXON.

The law is only good when it can get the dims what they want.


22 posted on 08/26/2004 3:58:05 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: Nov 2004 - is an Election for the Soul of America)
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To: BushisTheMan

Well thanks, I am motivated! What does the tin hat ref. mean?

Here is my motivation;
The FBI files reveal:

1. VVAW Plan to assassinate seven US senators.

2. VVAW was training to execute a Phoenix plan to decapitate the leaders of the US Government.

3. Member of VVAW arrested in-route to VP Agnew speech with an explosive device (BOMB).

4. VVAW running guns to a black militant group in Cairo IL.

5. VVAW funded by Communist party of America.

6. VVAW receiving funds from the Communist Party of a country in Europe.

7. VVAW taking directions from the North Vietnamese Communist Government.

8. VVAW sent tapes to NV to be played to our POW's being held by the communists.

9. VVAW sent its leaders (Kerry was a leader) to NV to be indoctrinated by the NV Communists.

10. FBI files indicate that Kerry only resigned from the executive committee of the VVAW at the Kansas City meeting.

Link to FBI files concerning Nov. 1971 VVAW meeting, go to page 190 for FBI report.

http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/fbifiles/100-HQ-448092/Section%2011/Section%2011.pdf

11. FBI files indicate there was concern about a possible assassination attempt on President Nixon in FL. Go to page 10-13
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/fbifiles/100-HQ-448092/Section%2013/Section%2013.pdf

12. Plan by members of VVAW to assassinate two of the national leaders of VVAW reported from the Pittsburgh PA FBI office.

13. VVAW had a plan to kidnap US leaders and hold them for ransom to force US to withdraw out troops from Vietnam. Not unlike the terrorist today!

14. On 1/21/72 some VVAW members had a meeting with William C. Frey who stated that is was associated with Revolutionary movements in South America. The Guatemalan police wanted Mr. Frey at that time.


And I found an article that proves Kerry was still with the VVAW as a leader as late as Feb. 1972.

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=26038


23 posted on 08/26/2004 4:04:05 PM PDT by stockpirate (Real issue is Kerry attended meeting where VVAW discussed killing 7 US Senators! 11/71)
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To: BushisTheMan
Tin-foil hats -- The phrase [I believe] originated with suspicious people who felt - or imagined - they were being bombarded by mind-control or thought-implanting radiation of some sort (not sure by whom, whether the government or extra-terrestrials -- maybe both), and claimed that they gained relief by fashioning a simple helmet from aluminum foil and wearing it.

LOL
24 posted on 08/26/2004 4:06:18 PM PDT by stockpirate (Real issue is Kerry attended meeting where VVAW discussed killing 7 US Senators! 11/71)
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To: Howlin; Billie; mhking; Bahbah; ohioWfan; Bob J

Can you ping your lists to this....It's some of Kerry's FBI files material. We need to get the word out.


25 posted on 08/26/2004 4:37:24 PM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: BushisTheMan

If you go to this link and than to page 68 you can read one of the FBI docs pretaining to the hit of Hubbard

http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/fbifiles/100-HQ-448092/Section%2013/Section%2013.pdf


26 posted on 08/26/2004 4:43:08 PM PDT by stockpirate (Real issue is Kerry attended meeting where VVAW discussed killing 7 US Senators! 11/71)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Tonkin, I know you posted earlier in this thread, but have you checked out the resources in post 23? Good stuff.
27 posted on 08/26/2004 5:06:17 PM PDT by DocRock (I've been MIA due to Charley, but I'm all better now!)
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To: aynrandfreak
I got this SWIFT BOAT VETERANS FOR TRUTH EXPOSE KERRY'S FRAUD sticker on my truck the other day. The next day on the way to work and back I got lots of honks and 'thumbs up'!

The sticker serves 2 purposes:
1 - Shows visible support for "Swift Boat Veterans For Truth" to passing motorists
2 - Gets the swiftvets.com website visible to the public, so they can and find out more about 'Hanoi John' Kerry

Made by fellow FReeper disabled vet who has a bone to pick with Kerry, like we all do!
Large (24" Wide 12" Tall) like mine
Small (12" Wide 6" Tall)
Profits go to SwiftVets.com

FReep mail for details.

28 posted on 08/26/2004 6:14:40 PM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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To: stockpirate
You're a fan too I take it? I do think she erred in not appreciating Reagan as the small government champion he was. If she saw what was going on today though, I think she'd sadly agree, the average Christian is more rational now than neo-socialist-liberals.

So, you trade? My wife & I are starting an investment management business. I'm a former broker and she's a Wharton MBA & also an aynrandfreak.
29 posted on 08/26/2004 6:41:56 PM PDT by aynrandfreak (If 9/11 didn't change you, you're a bad human being)
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To: stockpirate

Good heavens! That list makes the Kerry escapades in Vietnam look like child's play! Is this coming out in the not-so-mainstream media much? I ask because I've been doing lots of reading on lots of threads and lots of political blogs, and this is the first I've seen in detail. Thank you for outlining the FBI files so concisely. (I'm going to copy/paste/email, if you don't mind.)


30 posted on 08/26/2004 6:53:14 PM PDT by shezza
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To: shezza

No go ahead. I am working on an updated version that has over 25 items, the one you hav eseen is the tip of the iceberg!


31 posted on 08/26/2004 6:55:56 PM PDT by stockpirate (Real issue is Kerry attended meeting where VVAW discussed killing 7 US Senators! 11/71)
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To: stockpirate

Well, it's a proven fact that J F'n Kerry was a part of a meeting discussing the possible assasination of a U.S. Senator. In KC I think.


32 posted on 08/26/2004 7:10:17 PM PDT by Chu Gary (USN Intel guy 1967 - 1970)
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To: doug from upland

Ping! You know about this, don't you?


33 posted on 08/26/2004 7:14:49 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: arasina

Thanks. I didn't.


34 posted on 08/26/2004 7:15:59 PM PDT by doug from upland (John Kerry cried and asked TaRAYaz to make the SwiftVets stop)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

F'n should be sent to the Big House, not the White House. He should've been stopped long ago.


35 posted on 08/26/2004 7:16:48 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Chu Gary

Yes, that is right. The VVAW was a terrorist group. IMHO


36 posted on 08/26/2004 7:21:21 PM PDT by stockpirate (Real issue is Kerry attended meeting where VVAW discussed killing 7 US Senators! 11/71)
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To: Fedora

fyi


37 posted on 08/26/2004 7:23:00 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: piasa; stockpirate; Interesting Times; backhoe; Liz

Thanks, I've been reading the file. It looks to me like the faction of the VVAW that wanted to put a hit on Hubbard and Birch also wanted to get rid of Kerry. Kerry, Hubbard, and Birch were all associated with the NY national VVAW office, while the rival faction was the mid-East regional VVAW (encompassing NJ, PA, MD and Washington DC)--see File 100-448092, Section 13, pp. 69-72 and 79 and Section 14, p. 222. Incidentally, 14 p. 222 also mentions Kerry was still a national VVAW leader as of 3/72.


38 posted on 08/26/2004 7:38:25 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: stockpirate
How about if we REVERSE ENGINEER this thing, seeing as we are looking at that seditious era and checking FBI files?

I have heard and read where the Kamitet Gosudarstvenoye Bezopasnosti (KGB) had a fundamental role in organizing and controlling anti-war organizations in the United States and may have had overtures to the John Kerry-led V.V.A.W.-Winter Soldier Organization.

We need a Freeper in MOSCOW, NOW! or send one there, with:

a)Russian Connections

b) Russian language capabilities and research experience

c) Capability to cull through and obtain declassified KGB documents and memos during this 1970-1972 period.

It must be determined if the KGB had contact with this organization in Europe (when Kerry went) or in the USA and most importantly, if KERRY's name is in the former USSR KGB archives in Moscow.

If there is something there, this could make the Vietnam stories look PALE in comparison, and could prove to the US that Kerry was and is a NATIONAL SECURITY RISK.

39 posted on 08/26/2004 7:38:41 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Kerry Predicted in 1971 "No Bloodbath in Cambodia". TWO MILLION then died: April '75 to January '79)
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To: Sabertooth

Ping.


40 posted on 08/26/2004 7:39:34 PM PDT by Fedora
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