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Do the FBI Files concerning the VVAW (Kerry's antiwar group) indicate a plot against Pres. Nixon?
FBI Files on Vietnam Veterans Against the War and John Kerry ^ | Jan - Feb 1971 | FBI Files

Posted on 08/26/2004 2:47:43 PM PDT by stockpirate

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To: stockpirate; Interesting Times

It's normal procedure for FOIA files to redact the names of undercover agents. The Gainesville Eight's defense (led by William Kunstler's law center) tried to use the strategy of accusing FBI informants of "planting communistic propaganda in VVAW locations", etc. In point of fact, they didn't need to plant any propaganda--as one VVAW member at the Kansas City meeting put it when some VVAW members expressed concern that they might face persecution for associating with Communists, "if VVAW was afraid of a 'witch hunt', then they should never have set up the National Office next to the office of the People's Coalition for Peace and Justice".


121 posted on 10/27/2004 2:19:19 PM PDT by Fedora (Trolls sleep--but I don't.)
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To: stockpirate

No tin hat comment here. I have been researching this stuff until the wee hours of the morning myself. I agree with you totally.


122 posted on 10/27/2004 2:27:21 PM PDT by ladyinred (John Kerry has a plan to change the national symbol of an Eagle to a Chicken)
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To: Fedora
Agree. However, I also believe there were some on the inside of the Nixon administration that assisted the liberals in taking Nixon down. They were either planted or turned.

I believe now that Nixon had to go one way or another, I believe it was a coup and those young ones in and around spent the next 20 years networking the world over readying themselves for their next chance.

Amazing today that what has been uncovered by a few about JFKerry, the man may well be elected president. Whittaker Chambers foreword in his book Witness put into words for me what the battle of the left vs. right comes down to.
123 posted on 10/27/2004 2:28:59 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

"Agree. However, I also believe there were some on the inside of the Nixon administration that assisted the liberals in taking Nixon down."

I agree--that's part of what I was alluding to when I suggested "high-level help". IMO Nixon's Democratic enemies were allied with liberal Republicans who had their own motives for removing Nixon.

Regarding "Witness", one thing Chambers alludes to there that he later considered writing a separate book about was the role of Felix Frankfurter and Dean Acheson in Hiss' promotion and Hiss' reluctance to answer questions Nixon asked him in this area.


124 posted on 10/27/2004 2:56:16 PM PDT by Fedora (Trolls sleep--but I don't.)
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To: Fedora
Like maintaining the anonymity of Deep Throat, does not have a liberal face.

If you don't mind keep me posted on your work.. thanks in advance.
125 posted on 10/27/2004 3:09:41 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: ladyinred

See post 119 for more.


126 posted on 10/27/2004 3:28:34 PM PDT by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: Just mythoughts

I will make sure to keep you posted.

I haven't made up my mind on Deep Throat, but Woodward had connections to an anti-Nixon faction in the military which had both right-leaning and left-leaning elements (Nixon had people on both sides who opposed him for different reasons), while his employer Graham had left-wing connections that extended into liberal elements within the Agency. It's a tangled web.


127 posted on 10/27/2004 3:36:17 PM PDT by Fedora (Trolls sleep--but I don't.)
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To: Fedora

>>I haven't made up my mind on Deep Throat, but Woodward had connections...

Last night I came across Woodward and the supposed death-bed confession of William Casey while I was reading about Kerry's Nicaragua escapades. That guy gets around, doesn't he?


128 posted on 10/27/2004 7:55:05 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

If there's a story to be invented, Woodward's there to tell it! :)


129 posted on 10/27/2004 7:59:49 PM PDT by Fedora (Trolls sleep--but I don't.)
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To: stockpirate

There is more on the demonstration on 4/9/72 at Nixon's compound in FBI Section 15, pages 14f, 31, 33, 34, 35, 37, and 59. VVAW was there, flying the flag upside down, carrying a man on a stretcher, and being the royal traitors they always have been.

Note that this was only 4 days after the FBI learned that the North Vietnamese leaders had phoned the anti-war movement about being "ready to take action" when the bombing escalation took place. (Section 15, page 24).

Nixon knew his enemy... and they weren't only in Vietnam.


130 posted on 10/27/2004 8:27:36 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; stockpirate; Fedora; Interesting Times
Maybe you want to add this to your excellent collection: FBI FIles, Section 01
page 114

VVAW Leaflet (on VVAW letterhead), bottom of page 10:

ITEM: Commencing November 3, 1970 Jane Fonda, our Honorary National Coordinator, will be touring the country on a college speaking stint. Jan Crumb and Al Hubbard will accompany her. Our purpose for making the trip is to meet as many Vietnam veterans as possible, establish chapters, exchange ideas, and gather testimony for "Winter Soldier.

131 posted on 10/27/2004 8:35:14 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl
It's in there. See January, 1971.
132 posted on 10/27/2004 8:56:36 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: stockpirate; Interesting Times; Fedora
And a couple more pearls:

VVAW FBI Files - Section 34.pdf, page 36

  The Paris report follows:  This was given by [ redacted 
            continued redaction 1 line                    ]
VVAW sent 15 people to Paris June 25-28 [1972], to establish closer 
contact with the people of Indo-China.  It seems to have had 
its most value in radicalizing further the people who went.
They each spoke of the trip as a very moving experience personally 
although some questioned the need to send so many people as it 
was an expensive proposition to finance the trip to to New York 
for the fifteen.  The French Communist Party picked up the 
tab for their overseas flight and stay.


    Brian Adams[*] recently returned from a Venceremos Brigade 
to Cuba and spoke, relating what he saw in Cuba to the Paris 
trip. He said, "It gives you the perspective of being in a 
liberated zone, and of not just knowing, but of understanding 
the hate directed against America as an imperialistic nation. 
It gives you an understanding of our basic misunderstandings 
with the communist nations."

*Brian Adams, member of VVAW Executive Committee

133 posted on 10/27/2004 9:02:03 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: Interesting Times

You folks are too good! How about my next post?
LOL, I know... you already have that one too, huh?

Thanks for doing the great job you're doin'! :-)


134 posted on 10/27/2004 9:04:06 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: stockpirate

BUMP


135 posted on 10/27/2004 9:15:47 PM PDT by sweetiepiezer (We have to stop Kerry for our grandkids sake!!!!!!!! GO W)
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To: calcowgirl
No, but I do now... thanks.
136 posted on 10/27/2004 9:38:09 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: calcowgirl

Thanks!


137 posted on 10/27/2004 10:14:24 PM PDT by Fedora (Trolls sleep--but I don't.)
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To: Fedora

So Kerry was a member of the anti-Jon Birch Society huh?


138 posted on 10/29/2004 8:59:05 PM PDT by Tommie Paine (These are the times which try men's souls..........)
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To: Tommie Paine

LOL!


139 posted on 10/29/2004 9:16:35 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

I just checked out your list of research on your homepage, nice work.

Hope you have a nice holiday.


140 posted on 12/02/2008 1:34:49 PM PST by stockpirate (Welcome to the United Socialist States of America- USSA. Prepare for the Final Solution.)
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