Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom
Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.
The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.
The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.
Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.
McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.
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-PJ
Who knows, is right.
Along this thread, there are several cases where somebody new registers and then comes up with a post that says something along the lines of "the world is flat, therefore Obama is a citizen and eligible to serve as President" and you suspect that the new poster might be a troll setting up a post that can be referenced as legitimate dissent.
I didn't have any trouble comprehending your post. You are simply dead wrong. And there is an exhaustive legal opinion set out here (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2040753/posts) that covers the waterfront on all of the possible legal issues other than Sec. 1409 which as set out in the thread has an effective date for persons born after November 1986.
So you come up with something to the contrary--well which word of #2040753 or which statute or what do you not agree with? Here's the law; there isn't any room for argument on the narrow point--Ms. Dunham's citizenship makes a difference but only in a very narrowly defined statutory area which Obama does not fit.
If it proves out that Obama was born in Kenya, he is not even a citizen much less eligible to serve as President.
-PJ
David, they are really behind you, watch out, they are ready to get you. But seriously, with all due respect, you have lost all your arguments with me from get go. I was clear enough before your first reply to me and after and, as I mentioned before, I desire no further interaction with you due to complete and utter lack of interest. I have no need of posses to make my point nor am I in need of personal attacks to do the same.
Have fun and a great weekend (whatever’s left of it)!
Cheers!
The NewOne
Thank you, PJT!
That was once true, but in these days of identity theft, it no longer is. See this page for the restrictions on who may request certified copies of certificates of live birth in Hawaii.
Per your request and cringes as I hit post, but at this point our own conjecture seems as good as any “facts” that have been presented.
If, if his entire past was created they did a lousy job of it. It is messy. IF there is a conspiracy to get him into the Presidency his past is just too messy to get him there. So, no I don’t think there is a conspiratorial past.
But...and this is where I am leaning he may have had a more than difficult childhood. Jerked around all over the globe, placed in questionable schools, and finally grandparents who took custody of him because of his rocky life.
It is not unusual for children in dysfunctional situations to create an alternate past. Sometimes they a pretty darn clever in what they create and other times the lies eventually catch up with them. And then they finally decide to get mental health help to cope/resolve the issues.
The more and more I read, think, and consider this murky past it seems he is the product of a liberal dysfunctional family life. Born at a time when mixed marriages would be scorned, children of the mixes disowned by the families(even liberal families were embarrassed). Things may very well be misquoted and misplaced as Obama doesn’t want to recall his past accurately, it may be just too painful.
Now he wants to be President; as the public continues to question the dates, associations, and accuracy the bill is coming due. Bush had to deal with his alcoholic past and in these times of interent researchers and joe public having the ablity to question and compare like never before this puts great pressure on candidates. One coping mechanism is ignore the accusations, which is appears to be what the Obama campaign is doing.
Obama’s white grandmother is kept from the public. Why? She could be ill, etc. or she knows the truth of Obama’s dysfunction. Ultimately neglected by two fathers, abandoned by Ann, and who knows how he was really raised by his white grandparents? We are led to believe they were kind, generous etc., but we really don’t know—do we? She brought him home from Indonesia and dumped him on her parents. She took Maya back with her, but left Barry behind. OMG...WHY?
Lots of ideas run through my mind. Thinking back to what an 18 years old pregnant teenager might do with a black baby by a foreigner might do. In 1961 that would be a bombshell! How easily swayed by the father’s words/promises, etc. Angry parents would drive her away and into his arms. My family would have disowned me. Remember, Obama doesn’t even want to look too closely at these details, why?
Yes, crazy conspiracy theories and all I think they went to Kenya in the spring of 1961. Obama Sr. and a crazy 18 yr. old American girl spent summer break in Kenya. Ann never realizing the citizenship of her son was at risk, enamored with the rebirth of the Kenyan nation. She comes home and tells the authorities...whatever... to get him a BC. His birth is never recorded in Kenya except in the minds of his Kenyan family. No records except memories. And Ann’s secret goes with her to the grave.
ping for later
Post script:
Never realizing she may have given birth to the next President of the United States.
Welcome to FreeRepublic, Ruby! You picked a great day to join. Had you been lurking prior to this?
Yes, that whole scenario about travelling to Mercer Island within the month of August, 1961 was strange. Supposedly she was to join her husband in Boston. But, I thought he was still studying in Hawaii until the summer of 62.
Re. the point that she returned to Seattle in 1962, then enrolled in University of Washington for the spring quarter.....do you think they mean she enrolled in spring of 1962, or the spring quarter of the 62 school year which would make it spring, 1963?
-PJ
Obama is a nut. So was Slick Willy.
Thank you!
I’ve just lurked a little. I’ve been caught up in the BO COLB mess and I came upon this board in my research on that.
I dabble in genealogy and I find this kind of stuff all sorts of interesting.
Thanks for posting that.
Unfortunately, some people (hopefully only a handful) will now call LGF an Obama fan site, just like I was called by some here a troll and a con artist. If I was a troll, I would have held back my information and helped rally on the train wreck instead of offering my BC to Jim Robinson for inspection. There are quite a few newbies who cheered this thing on, and some longtime FReepers who meant well but got tunnel vision.
It appears the DeCosta BC is legit, but it does look very different than mine and Obama’s. I suppose there are multiple versions; I learned something new too in this debacle.
I apologize for having posted to some in a rude fasion. Granted, those replies were in response to posts suggesting I was not being honest, but still I should not have responded in kind.
I hope you all have a relaxing Sunday.
I meant to also type in reply to “All.”
You’re welcome. It’s discouraging that we can’t get him on this! Grrrr.
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