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Who Was The Real Christopher Columbus?
YouTube ^ | uploaded October 2020 | Timeline

Posted on 10/09/2020 9:32:16 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

Was Christopher Columbus born in Genoa, Italy? Most definitely not, say an unlikely collection of experts from European royalty, DNA science, university scholars, even Columbus's own living family. This ground breaking documentary follows a trail of proof to show he might have been much more than we know.
Who Was The Real Christopher Columbus? | Secrets and Lies of Christopher Columbus | Timeline
Who Was The Real Christopher Columbus? | Secrets and Lies of Christopher Columbus | Timeline

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To: wny

and enslaved the native population


41 posted on 10/09/2020 1:03:12 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.(DT4POTUS))
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To: MrChips

WIZardoz

“PAY NO ATTENTION TO THAT MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!


42 posted on 10/09/2020 1:17:10 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Hot Rod Garage

The Carib(Cannab) Indians were slaughtering and eating the Arawak tribes across the Caribbean. It is where the word Cannibal comes from.
Columbus found some pregnant Arawak women prisoners in cages. It seems the Cannabs loved to snack on new born Arawak baby.


43 posted on 10/09/2020 1:23:52 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: blueunicorn6

Sure that wasn’t Giovanni da Verrazzano?


44 posted on 10/09/2020 1:25:44 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

You don’t cook Italians.

You have Italians cook for you.


45 posted on 10/09/2020 1:33:57 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: JBW1949
MYTH: Columbus died a penniless man in prison. - CSMonitor
46 posted on 10/09/2020 3:19:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

OK...


47 posted on 10/09/2020 3:23:58 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: wny

and after a career of “public service” died rich.


48 posted on 10/09/2020 3:53:56 PM PDT by nicollo (I said no!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I can’t find it online, but there was a class S. Gross (National Lampoon) cartoon of cannibals boiling a clown, and one says to the other, “Tastes funny.”


49 posted on 10/09/2020 4:20:32 PM PDT by nicollo (I said no!)
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To: wny

... but he did find Ray Charles!


50 posted on 10/10/2020 4:36:12 PM PDT by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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Transcript
0:00·[intro redacted]
0:41·may 20th 1506 only two years after his fourth and
0:47·final voyage to the new world christopher columbus the famous explorer
0:54·is dying [Music] why he is dying is not known
0:59·his son and biographer hernan would later say it was gout that took the life
1:04·of his father still others ascribed the cause to
1:10·something more sinister they say he may have been poisoned to
1:15·death by his enemies but the cause of their father's death
1:21·doesn't concern the columbus suns right now it's the who they're after
1:28·who is this man they call father father
1:34·we must know who we are could you leave us without telling us your name our name father you can't take all your secrets
1:42·tell us now we beg you no my sons let him be in peace
1:51·yes that's right at the hour of columbus's death his sons diego and hernan
1:58·know practically nothing about him not even if his true name is christopher
2:03·columbus they had heard rumors that he was not from italy that his mother was jewish
2:11·that he was the bastard child of a member of portuguese royalty that he was acting as a secret agent for
2:17·the king of portugal against his loyal benefactor queen isabel
2:24·they had heard these rumors many times but when they sought the truth from their father he would not answer
2:31·his life was a secret from his sons from the world
2:36·forever but maybe not forever
2:47·[Music]
2:52·[Music]
3:03·[Music]
3:34·[Music]
3:40·and so the legend of christopher columbus was created a boy born to a poor family of wool
3:46·dyers in genoa who hung out at the docks studying ships and map making
3:53·somehow he learned navigational skills and decided that india could be reached
3:59·by sailing west across the atlantic ocean [Music]
4:04·despite his low status he somehow managed to gain access to the royalty of
4:09·europe free to wander the palaces of kings and queens
4:14·he spent a lot of time with royalty entertaining them with the idea of an expedition to discover a new and faster
4:21·route to india he was a complete unknown to queen isabel of spain yet he convinced her to
4:29·provide a large sum of money to search for this mythical route to riches
4:35·and what he discovered was not india at all but a land that came to be known as
4:41·america or so goes the story as written by the doubting washington irving
4:47·[Music] but now there's a team of 21st century
4:54·researchers who don't believe the story either they are americans dave horner and paul
5:01·perry with portugal's carlos evaristo veteran explorers and historical
5:07·researchers members of raha the royal archaeological and historical association of portugal
5:15·horner is a veteran explorer and author finding a bounty of treasure on spanish
5:20·galleons and searching for the remains of amelia earhart
5:26·perry is a best-selling book author whose historical explorations include following the fabled trail of jesus in
5:33·egypt and joining the expedition that found captain kids sunken ship in madagascar
5:40·and evaristo one of portugal's most knowledgeable historians is an archaeologist who is considered by the
5:46·vatican to be one of the world's foremost experts in holy relics together these researchers will pursue
5:54·an alternative story to columbus that ties together many of the loose ends that have long been unexplained
6:02·but first they want to talk to members of the royalty and nobility
6:07·all close to the columbus story by talking to them they will decide
6:12·whether their well-researched assumptions are right or wrong they receive responses that they didn't
6:18·really expect i believe that everything we know about
6:23·the columbus is wrong what in the world do you mean by that basically
6:29·we i have all the reasons to believe that he was born a portuguese
6:34·that his father was a portuguese prince of the royal family
6:40·that his mother was a portuguese from from a jewish sentencing family
6:47·and that he worked as a secretary for the king of portugal similar information comes from the duke
6:54·of viragwa christopher columbus the 20th descendant of the great explorer and an
7:00·admiral himself columbus has commentary about the birthplace of his forefather
7:06·that lends doubt to the traditional historic story
7:24·[Music]
8:08·and then there's count vasco de gama the 19th an antique dealer in lisbon whose
8:14·portuguese forefather a contemporary of columbus discovered the ocean route to
8:20·india his studies of columbus leave him little doubt that columbus was born in portugal
8:27·why because portuguese tradition says that he was from portuguese descent and
8:32·learned his navigational skills at the nautical school of prince henry the navigator
9:02·the explorers also spoke to historians and scientists including the late captain augusto barretto whose 40 years
9:09·of investigation uncovered secret documents and maps linking columbus to a
9:14·portuguese prince and a secret mission for king john ii of portugal
9:20·and then there is the raja team scientific collaborator dr jose lorente acosta dean of forensic studies at the
9:28·university of granada and a former member of the fbi he has positively
9:33·identified the bones of christopher columbus in his seville cathedral tomb and may confirm their theories with
9:39·further dna studies this has not been yet tested but
9:44·it will be tested we are waiting to have the new
9:49·technologies that would possibility it would facilitate this kind of analysis and dna if we have
9:56·if we can get enough quantity and quality it would give us a lot of information about the origins of columbus including direct comparisons
10:02·with some of some of these theories so what is the truth about the man we
10:08·know as christopher columbus the three researchers meet at historic orem castle the international
10:15·headquarters of raha in portugal to form the questions that will be the focus of
10:20·their historical pursuit the trio decide to gather at the medieval banquet hall where evaristo has
10:27·laid out a number of artifacts connected to the columbus mysteries
10:32·these are uh artifacts connected to the major mysteries on columbus that we're trying to confirm or
10:39·debug was christopher columbus truly italian
10:45·or was he the illegitimate son of a portuguese prince was columbus jewish
10:51·absolutely say many historians including simon wiesenthal israel's noted nazi hunter
10:59·was he a secret agent for king john ii of portugal and if so
11:05·why did he go to sea for the spanish he wouldn't be allowed to do that unless
11:10·he was a templar himself or operating in the name of the portuguese king
11:17·the modern day explorers plan to visit columbus's european world and many of the places they visit will
11:24·be ones not found in the history books but first they go to cintra portugal
11:30·where dom duarte duke of braganza head of the portuguese royal house and raha's
11:36·royal patron wants to share more about columbus's history including some family traditions
11:45·everything points to the fact that first he was not an italian he never wrote anything in italian
11:52·then the symbols used to sign
11:58·the symbols who would mean that his original name
12:03·was zarko so the idea is that it was the daughter the son of
12:11·zelko lady and the daughter of gonzalo zarco
12:17·and he was probably the father was the infant the
12:24·prince don fernando of portugal who was the son of don duarte
12:31·so basically the data we have points to that he should be he was portuguese
12:38·and the son of a portuguese prince and a woman who was he was not married with
12:45·her so that he didn't want to be classified as being a bastard
12:59·it's supposed that he was born in a village called cuba in el intention
13:05·the first main island he found he named it cuba because he had
13:10·many connections to jewish culture he was interested in in the jewish
13:16·tradition so it could probably could be the son of a jewish mother maybe the zarko
13:23·family was jewish
13:32·well after his first official trip to the official discovery of america
13:38·when he came back what he did was not to go to sevilla he went to lisbon
13:44·and he stopped here and he went to see the king who was
13:50·upriver in the little town up river because there was a plague in lisbon at
13:55·the time and harry stayed for i think three days with the king telling his trip
14:01·and after that he went then to to sevilla to spain so that it's very clear what why he would make a
14:09·report to the king of portugal before going to the kings who paid his team
14:22·history is such an interesting science that we should not be offended
14:28·and we should not uh take it politically i know the italian americans are very
14:34·upset if he's not italian but and spanish are not very happy
14:40·that he is portuguese but i think we have to address history
14:45·the science and it's more useful to know the truth than to
14:52·cultivate some historical legends or lies
14:57·that help us make us confused and make history difficult to understand
15:05·their conversation with his royal highness genuinely challenged history
15:10·not only did he tell them several things that are not included in standard history books he forcefully insisted
15:18·they were 100 factual
15:24·these researchers will plow through every aspect of columbus's life in an effort to solve these 500 year-old
15:32·mysteries and in doing that they plan to bring in a feast of fresh information that will
15:38·open these cases wide their goal is a difficult one to reveal the true christopher columbus
15:47·something he wouldn't do even on his deathbed [Music]
15:56·many archives and libraries of spain have special connection to christopher columbus
16:01·which is why our explorers are in the archive of the indies in seville
16:07·this is the general archive of the india's is that right yes i was here 25 years ago magnificent this is the place
16:14·where they have all the records on columbus all of the colonial records and all of this all of columbus's writings
16:21·his letters all of the rocks all the records of the galleons itself to and from the new world everything's here
16:29·in 1826 the great american author washington irving was given the task to
16:35·write a biography of columbus for the u.s consulate in spain irving was granted free access to this
16:42·and other archives yet despite the wealth of information that made up a meaty two-volume biography
16:49·irving found nothing to indicate that christopher columbus had been born in genoa italy
16:54·this lack of proof of columbus's nationality haunts the irving bio and
17:01·closed the contemporary case to have columbus declared a saint by the pope
17:06·on the book's very first page irving declares that columbus was born in genoa
17:11·in about 1435. he follows that with a footnote
17:17·readers will find the vexed question about the age birthplace and lineage of
17:22·columbus severally discussed in the appendix and so it was
17:28·discussed in detail there has been much controversy about the birthplace of columbus it has formed
17:35·a point of zealous controversy which is not yet satisfactorily settled
17:41·indeed irving presents numerous claims from noblemen mayors and ordinary people
17:46·declaring that columbus hailed from countries and regions other than genoa
17:52·where most are led to believe he was born some of these claims in irving's books declare him to be a member of noble
17:59·families others claim that his working-class father was in truth
18:04·a fallen member of royalty perhaps he didn't research his doubts
18:10·enough irving's biography became an international bestseller
18:15·and soon statues and images sprang up all over europe many of them announcing
18:21·columbus as a proud son of genoa but more serious doubt about his
18:26·birthplace sprang up in the 20th century when patrocinio rubiero and captain
18:32·mascarenas barreto two portuguese historians declared that christopher
18:37·columbus was not only portuguese but was the son of the duke of beija and
18:43·therefore cousin of king john ii
18:49·italia
18:58·and by the way columbus couldn't even speak italian said barretto
19:29·the results of beretta's findings were groundbreaking he presented his findings all over
19:35·europe beginning in 1978 but still the belief that columbus was born in genoa had been solidified
19:44·but thanks to dna that belief may eventually change
19:50·[Music] the city hall of granada spain looks
19:55·more like an art gallery than the seat of local government there are famous paintings beautiful
20:01·paintings and the official shield of queen isabelle and king ferdinand from the 15th century
20:09·but the thrill of the history they are seeing is about to be added to by the information dr lorente is going to
20:16·reveal through the hard science of dna examination this former fbi agent and
20:23·current head of the csi department at granada university has strong doubts
20:28·that christopher columbus was italian llorente gained access to the dna of
20:34·columbus as part of an international group asked to prove that the admiral was really buried in the famous tomb in
20:41·seville cathedral with dna in hand the group decided to see if columbus was indeed italian
20:49·they did it by comparing the famous dna with possible columbus descendants
20:55·the result has not changed history yet
21:01·if you say that he's from italy if and you want to prove that he's from italy you need to have dna from some
21:09·relative of columbus either from that time or from someone some descendant of christopher
21:15·columbus and and there is no relative of christopher
21:21·known relative of christopher columbus buried in in italy and there is no
21:27·no no known descendant of the family of christopher columbus there are many people with the with the name uh
21:34·columbus in in italy but but not that so
21:39·this is going to i will explain you what we did but this is hard to prove that he's from
21:45·italy okay so how do i summarize the question uh
21:51·is columbus italian could you give me 30 seconds on how to summarize that
21:56·okay well with the result that we have we cannot say where he's from it's just much better
22:03·to prove that he is linked to some other to portugal or to whatever
22:10·because yeah as yeah i suppose not mean it's always hard i mean uh
22:16·if you don't have a direct reference sample to compare two which is very difficult
22:22·as it now stands dna science has not advanced far enough to prove columbus's
22:27·origin but was he possibly fathered by the duke of beija and therefore a member
22:32·of portuguese royalty but proof positive would require the dna of the duke of beija or a first or
22:40·second generation relative find the dna of a 15th century duke or another member
22:45·of the portuguese royal family ordinarily that would have been the end of the discussion but not for the
22:51·knowledgeable and well-connected evaristo a well-placed phone call to a bishop a quick explanation and the
22:58·explorers are given the keys to one of the most sacred sites in all of spain
23:04·the crypt of queen isabel and king ferdinand the benefactors of christopher columbus
23:12·it is unheard of to be given such access to the crypt of spain's most important
23:17·king and queen even lorente who was born and lives in granada had never entered the royal
23:23·crypt evaristo chooses to honor the moment with a single red rose
23:29·but the red rose is not for the queen but another lesser-known occupant of the crypt and i'd like
23:37·to present you prince miguel de la paz you had asked us to find
23:44·the first or second generation would-be relative of christopher columbus and he's right here in your
23:52·hometown i present prince miguel de la paz
23:57·so he was here he was here all the time and he's the son of king manuel of
24:03·portugal and of isabelle and ferdinand's daughter
24:09·he died at the age of two do you think you can get dna from him
24:16·we have to try it's however disposable well then now it's all in your capable
24:22·hands of course there was one problem
24:28·prince miguel de la paz is wrapped in an unbreachable lead coffin
24:33·will the spanish authorities allow them to open the coffin and collect the desired dna
24:39·[Music] the next morning the explorers travel to
24:44·seville to see the tomb of columbus it's a magnificent monument built in
24:50·1890 inside the coffin born by the kings of spain are the remains of christopher
24:57·columbus or at least what remains of the remains
25:03·while evaristo goes off to make a phone call horner and perry find themselves sitting outside the cathedral
25:10·talking about the saga of columbus's remains [Music]
25:16·yeah he died up north in valladolid he was there for a long period of time
25:23·then his body was brought here to seville and then one of his relatives wanted his body in
25:30·the dominican republic so they brought his body over to the dominican republic i believe it was in
25:36·the 1700s then there was a revolution in the
25:41·dominican republic and they decided to move him out so he was brought to cuba some of his remains were left in the dr
25:49·he's brought to cuba he's then moved back to spain some of his remains are
25:54·left in cuba and he's then laid to rest what's left of him here at this in seville so his
26:02·primary tomb is here in seville but in fact he's buried in at least four different places
26:08·so he's quite a traveler in death evaristo returns from his phone call
26:13·with good news the museum in baja has agreed to let them examine the crypt where the duke of
26:19·beija is buried he was the member of royalty who according to portuguese tradition
26:26·may have fathered columbus but his dna has never been examined
26:33·but if they can find some of his remains lorente says he can compare them to those of columbus and then it will truly
26:39·be known who is buried in columbus's tomb
26:47·basia portugal was occupied for centuries by romans visigoths and muslims
26:54·but it wasn't until king sancho ii took charge in the 13th century that it became a permanent fixture in portugal's
27:00·alanteju region [Music] in 1459 prince dom fernando
27:07·aka the duke of beija built this convent for an order of nuns
27:16·it has been many things since then but in 1470 it was created to be the last resting
27:23·place of the young duke himself the master of the knights templar and
27:29·possible father of christopher columbus died at the age of 36.
27:37·[Music] the former convent is now a museum that is home to some of the most important
27:44·church art in portugal but our explorers are not here to admire the art they are here to see who if
27:51·anyone is buried in the sarcophagus of the duke of baja if there is someone they will compare
27:58·his dna to christopher columbus's and hope for a match if a match happens they will have
28:04·changed the history books and ushered in a whole new era of historical research
28:12·rather than pry up the lid of the monumental sarcophagus evaristo has chosen an easier way
28:21·okay what exactly are we going to do again well what we're going to do is run this endoscopic camera into
28:28·prince ferdinand duke of beijing's sarcophagus to confirm if there are any human remains inside that we can extract
28:35·dna from [Music]
28:44·with the camera inside the sarcophagus the explorers have a clear view of what is inside
28:53·the result i'm not seeing anything in there actually there's this is an empty
28:58·sarcophagus [Music] there's nothing in there
29:05·the question is what happened to the remains because there's no record of them having ever been removed let me
29:12·i'm going to rewind this you can take a look at it see
29:18·empty box yep completely empty
29:23·what happened to the duke of beijing's remains i don't know
29:29·before leaving the former convent the three explorers paid their respects to beatrice of basia
29:36·wife of the duke of basia an extraordinary lady this beatrice
29:41·among her many accomplishments were two treaties that divided the uncharted world between portugal and spain
29:49·over the grave of beatrice the explorers planned their next move horner can't help but wonder if she knew
29:57·whether columbus was her husband's illegitimate son
30:07·with the search for dna on hold for the time being the explorers decide to go back to the history books
30:14·they find them at mafra palace in a town of the same name near lisbon
30:20·built in the 1700s for king john v the massive palace contains a library of 36
30:27·000 leather-bound volumes some say it contains all of western
30:33·knowledge from the 14th to the 19th century and some feel it was built from plans
30:39·for a new jerusalem as found in the book of revelations
30:46·the books are protected from paper-eating insects by tiny bats that patrol the library at night
30:53·without them the books would be reduced to book dust it is here that our explorers come in
30:59·search of information not from the books that surround them
31:04·but from a gadfly historian by the name of manuel gandra like captain barretto and other
31:11·portuguese columbus theorists gandra feels that the life of columbus portrayed in the history books has
31:18·little to do with the truth
31:24·mr fact is columbus portuguese i think it was portuguese because
31:31·everything in his life
31:36·tells us that he knew portuguese very well he spoke portuguese
31:42·very well he wrote portuguese very well better than it didn't he could not write
31:48·or speak italian it seems okay but he could write very well portuguese
31:54·uh as other languages as for example hebrew and and greek and latin
32:00·and there is a tradition about
32:06·being portuguese and son of grandmaster of the order of christ
32:14·prince ferdinand yes prince fellaini he was he was uh he was um
32:21·and a lady that was from the family of the first of the
32:26·first discoveries of of madaira zarco
32:32·okay and this tradition is very strong in here and his signature his kabulistic
32:38·signature shows that he was from that family
32:47·but there is another easier way to prove that columbus was from portugal
32:53·it doesn't involve the search for ancient dna nor does it require a long road trip
33:00·it only involves a map and a short drive to cuba
33:08·ah yes cuba land of sand sun and skin
33:14·the island discovered by christopher columbus and named by him because
33:19·because cuba portugal was the town of his birth that's what they say in portugal
33:25·here's the duke of braganza for instance the first main island he found he named it cuba
33:32·then the islands around cuba some of them have names of villages in alien
33:38·territory around the town of cuba and then there's the late historian
33:43·captain augusto barretto
34:32·a
34:48·[Music]
34:57·all of these experts and more insist not only that christopher columbus was born in cuba portugal but
35:05·that he was the illegitimate son of a portuguese prince so off we go to cuba
35:12·portugal that is there isn't much to see in cuba
35:19·here for instance is a church dating from the time of the duke of baja
35:24·it was on the grounds of this church where columbus was believed to have been born to isabel sikara zarco in a house
35:33·that since has been torn down
35:38·his birth name salvador fernandez zarco was later changed to christopher colon
35:45·by the explorer himself we'll get to that part of the story later
35:51·the duke's plantation house next to the church is gone a street named for captain barretto
35:57·leads through the nearby village of cuba to a tiny square and a statue of
36:02·columbus himself gazing across the narrow street as though it were the great blue sea
36:09·every stu explains the statue its meaning and cuba's astounding claim here
36:15·in the center of the village square in cuba alentejo southern portugal is this
36:20·monument honoring its most famous son christopher columbus the plaque here reads historic truth
36:28·the first truth is that columbus always hid his true origins and his true
36:33·identity that for 500 years history has accepted an uncertainty meaning that the story
36:42·about him being from genoa has never really been proven recently however notable historians and
36:49·researchers have concluded that christopher colon was portuguese
36:55·he was the son of the infante don fernando prince fernando duke of beja
37:00·and of lady isabel gonsalves zarco his real name was salvador fernandez
37:07·zarco and he was born in the el intege here in cuba
37:14·columbus born in cuba portugal that's a bold claim for a nearly anonymous village
37:20·but the story goes one step further on the other side of the statue
37:26·on the other side of the monument to columbus is this plaque it reads alentejo the motherland of the
37:34·discoveries it says that on the 28th of october 1492 christopher columbus
37:39·discovered an island that he named cuba there was no other cuba in the world at
37:45·the time except this cuba here in alentejo portugal but the other sites that he also named
37:52·in the new world in the places adjacent to cuba have names from the same places that are
37:58·adjacent to cuba here in the elentejo in southern portugal a look at a map of the
38:04·caribbean shows this claim to be true surrounding the cuba of the americas are
38:10·more than 40 islands and locations with the same name as those adjacent to the
38:15·cuba of portugal this seems too astounding to be mere coincidence place
38:20·names found on a map of cuba portugal match those surrounding cuba in the caribbean the explorers consider this to
38:27·be geographic dna on par with human dna powerful evidence that christopher
38:32·columbus was perhaps born in cuba portugal
38:38·the mayor of cuba joao portuguese sits down with evaristo in the village's
38:43·modest columbus museum to back up that assertion
38:48·he begins with ancient history cuba he says dates from the roman era
38:57·oklahoma
39:59·[Music]
40:19·this evidence is so convincing that spain's state tv provided a series about queen isabel
40:25·that portrayed columbus as possibly having been a portuguese secret agent
40:44·[Music]
41:28·a political cover-up a desire to keep the truth about columbus in the dark that's what every
41:34·still thinks and the mayor agrees [Music]
41:44·uh [Music]
42:22·[Music]
42:28·is it's a conspiracy of fear says evaristo
42:35·fear of stepping out from the academic crowd and changing history but change is never easy in fact the
42:42·only thing hardest harder says evaristo is the search for truth that brings you against long-held beliefs
42:49·the mayor agrees [Music]
42:56·uh [Music]
43:14·[Music]
43:28·[Music]
43:38·[Music]
43:56·so does the theory that columbus was born in portugal stand up to critical thought
44:02·professor gandra thinks that same question should be asked of genoa does their belief that columbus was born
44:09·in italy stand up to critical thought so myth or fact
44:15·was columbus then born in cuba you know it seems it seems it seems that all the
44:21·the islands and all the places he he he discovered in new world took the names
44:28·of places around the place where he was born 40 of them yeah yeah so
44:35·and cuba was one of the main places as you know uh so it's uh
44:41·it's curious because if he was from geneva that was not explained it was there was
44:47·no no way to explain that yes difficult to explain indeed
44:54·still the question remains if not italian is the textbook say
44:59·then who was christopher columbus there are those who say that the secrets
45:05·of columbus are contained in his signature a complex collection of letters and
45:10·symbols that reveal the identity of the great explorer and perhaps including two
45:15·of the most tantalizing secrets of all that he had been of jewish heritage and
45:21·that he was a portuguese secret agent a double 07 for the king of portugal
45:27·with a license to kill this is the signature of christopher
45:32·columbus technically it is referred to as a cipher a way of including secret information in
45:39·the course of signing one's name captain barretto researched this triangular signature of dots and letters
45:47·for more than a decade and evaristo is certain he deciphered the mystery
45:55·another one of the mysteries of columbus is of course his name
46:00·his cipher and uh his coat of arms we know that there are many
46:07·controversies and many theories out there for what this actually means
46:14·some people say uh it's it's a reference to kabbalah
46:20·others say it's a reference to ferdinand and isabella the
46:25·interpretation by captain barreto is that it reveals that this man is salvador
46:33·because today uh when we buy a sports car or something that's
46:38·very valuable or very important we in portuguese say x p t o
46:44·means it's great so what we have here is x a p a t and an o
46:51·it actually means salvador it means christ the savior the supreme
46:57·person that the templar knights paid homage to so the captain says that this means
47:05·salvador next we have fair ends ference means of course uh ferdinand for fernandez which is son
47:13·of ferdinand and then you have a z because the z's were
47:18·actually made like this but in reverse and that would mean zarco so salvador fernandez zarco
47:26·then you have what's called a colon or a a colon in in english uh in in
47:33·portuguese it's a column and if you if you it actually means colon colon
47:40·so if we take this word here it means christopher
47:47·christopher christopher with the t and the p
47:53·christopher column christopher colon if we continue and we
47:59·do this then we have christopher columb fernandez we already we already know it's salvador
48:06·and if we take a mirror and put it here the s becomes a z
48:13·and that indicates zarco so if you look at this cipher and take
48:18·it apart like captain burrito did you have the s the f
48:24·and the z salvador fernandez zarko
48:29·one of the conclusions reached is the notion that the supposed mother of columbus isabel zarco was the daughter
48:36·of jewish italian explorer joao gonsalves zarco and thus giving the explorer jewish
48:42·ascendancy [Music] other historical researchers have come to the same or similar conclusions
48:50·british historian cecil roth felt the cipher was a substitute for kadesh a jewish prayer recited by mourners after
48:57·the death of a relative and indeed the sons of columbus did say kadish for their father when he died
49:06·and there was simon wiesenthal the noted nazi hunter whose book sales of hope
49:11·built the case that columbus's voyage was motivated by a desire to find safe
49:16·haven for the 800 000 jews subject to expulsion from spain
49:22·during the inquisition to show solidarity with the jews of
49:27·spain jewish scholars say that he set sail for the new world on august 6 1492
49:34·the very day the jews were given the choice of converting to catholicism leaving spain
49:40·or being killed so what was the atmosphere like here
49:46·when when columbus and his crew left was it was it festive were they excited about this search for the new world
49:53·well the day that they left it was calm but the days leading up to his departure
49:58·were total chaos because the queen had ordered all the jews to leave spain and leave all their
50:05·property behind and the docks were just full of jews trying to board ships so it
50:12·was total chaos wow does that likely confirm columbus himself was a jew
50:19·well yes and no so was columbus hiding his jewish
50:25·heritage or is that a myth of history a misreading of columbus's true faith
50:32·the researchers from raja want to find out [Music] evaristo stops the carriage and escorts
50:39·horner into the mother of god convent formerly a jewish synagogue built in the time of
50:45·columbus so this used to be a synagogue up until 1492 when the jews were
50:53·driven out of spain in 1495 they turned it into a christian building they turned
50:58·it into a church and a convent and this convent out of all the convents in
51:04·the city was especially favored by the christopher columbus family
51:09·and it was actually the pantheon it says there the pantheon of
51:15·christopher columbus's family and where his granddaughters are buried
51:22·fantastic so why would they choose a former synagogue
51:27·as their final resting place and their family mausoleum their family pantheon it's very very strange
51:34·and then it's into the synagogue turned church where evaristo shows horner the tombs of
51:40·the columbus granddaughters this is the tomb of four of christopher
51:46·columbus's granddaughters here in sevilla at the convent of the mother of god
51:51·they endowed this convent with funds so that they could be buried here and have their family plot
51:58·this used to be a jewish synagogue evaristo also shows horner the ornate
52:05·altar that separates the tombs of hernan cortez widow and daughter
52:10·and then reveals a startling fact you know that in 1495 when they turned this
52:15·into a convent they gave it to the female branch of the dominican order and
52:21·that's the same order that isabella commissioned to start the inquisition
52:27·a few weeks after his visit to the jewish ghetto in seville evaristo finds himself at a cemetery in madrid with
52:33·vatican lawyer luis castro evaristo has found research that links
52:39·columbus's triangular signature of dots and letters with a cryptic inscription
52:45·resembling three balls in a triangular shape this shape is said to be found in jewish
52:51·cemeteries they decide to do some research this is clearly
52:58·a jewish tombstone has the star of david and here again we have the repetitive
53:04·three three three and three you have three balls three holes three bowls which are depicted as seeds
53:10·because either blossoming yeah the branches that are again
53:16·doubled which represent the 12 tribes of israel
53:21·further into the cemetery they find what they are looking for the three balls depicted like that
53:28·yes are not seeds obviously they may be the symbol of money changers or money
53:34·lenders bankers as was used back in the middle ages with
53:39·the uh the jewish community and also with the templars who were bankers yeah i think so and they're still used today
53:46·by many uh credit establishments all over the world there are other pieces of evidence that
53:52·seem significant to the question of columbus's faith in his will he left money to a jew who lived at the entrance
53:59·to the jewish quarter in lisbon he tithed the tenth of his income to the poor a jewish custom and when he
54:06·returned to spain after his discovery of the new world his first two letters were not to isabelle and ferdinand but to
54:13·luis de santiage and gabriel sanchez the prominent jews who had helped fund his
54:19·voyage is this evidence another sign of columbus's jewish heritage
54:26·very possibly say many researchers but the duke of braganza has another
54:32·theory he believes that christopher columbus was a devout catholic but straddled both christianity and judaism
54:39·through the heritage of his catholic father and jewish mother listen carefully as his highness explains the
54:46·dual faith of christopher columbus his name means
54:55·and and the christopher's it's mean christ so it's the dove of christ
55:02·it's a symbolic name for the the empire of the holy spirit
55:08·because the idea of the portuguese what that our discoveries were not to build a
55:14·political empire but to build the empire of the holy spirit that was called at the time the
55:21·fifth empire and it was the idea that the world world should be united
55:26·under the holy spirit and it would be a time of peaceful
55:32·brotherhood between every country and every people and the rulers would rule
55:37·following the the laws of god and
55:43·then his official name could be a symbol to explain that he was
55:50·preparing the world for this empire of the holy spirit so what you're saying then is that his
55:57·real name was not christopher columbus no no i'm quite sure it was not
56:03·it was a official name he built for himself he should be probably zarko
56:11·his first name his family name because it was name of his his mother
56:18·let's talk about his mother for a minute uh there there's a belief that he was he
56:24·was jewish on his maternal side true or false it's possible that
56:31·his mother had a jewish ascendancy even if because
56:37·the [Music] the reason why he never spoke about her mother
56:43·could be this one i don't know but it's it's a mystery but it could be because he had
56:49·many connections to jewish culture he was interested in in the jewish
56:56·tradition so it could probably could be the son of a jewish mother maybe the zarko
57:02·family was jewish columbus's mother may be jewish agrees gandra
57:09·but in the end if he is the son of a portuguese prince he is of royal blood
57:14·even if the family zacco family was jewish and
57:20·a colon mother was jewish his father was not and that prevailed i think so
57:26·i think so because he was very very uh he was received as a andy you
57:34·he told us he wrote that it was uh from royal family and it was not the first
57:41·admiral of his family and his father was an admiral so
57:47·cloth tanners from genoa were not admirals no this is a we know we know that that's a
57:55·good a good theory but not not a true one so why the cover-up
58:01·um it's not a cover-up it's something someone invented
58:07·because uh nor colin nor isan ferinen for example
58:13·tell us about columbine being generous okay um
58:19·he tells us different things about his father and his ancestry that's not from
58:25·italy or from genova everything colin wrote about himself and his family
58:32·comes to the same point and this is royal family portuguese royal family
58:37·which brings us back to the duke of braganza a confirmed descendant of king john ii and the duke of beija
58:44·and unconfirmed descendant of christopher columbus himself
58:52·he was supposed to spy it was not very clever to everybody know that he is the son of
58:58·approaching his prince spanish would not believe him before columbus's fourth voyage he was
59:05·arrested and he was arrested for treating the the
59:10·indians poorly in the new world but you don't feel like that was why he was arrested you feel
59:17·like it was another reason i believe that this was a excuse to arrest him
59:22·the main reason was that they discovered he was a portuguese spy perhaps there is more proof that
59:29·columbus was a secret agent in the treaty of tordesillas the 1494 treaty
59:35·divided the world between spain and portugal the purpose of the treaty was to settle
59:40·conflicts over the land discovered by columbus but before the treaty was ratified
59:46·king john ii insisted that portugal get a much larger slice of the world than
59:52·originally agreed to [Music] the king wanted the dividing line to be moved west which would give portugal
59:59·domain in two countries only they knew existed brazil and canada
1:00:06·that is why evaristo will examine an official copy of the great treaty that divided the world
1:00:14·evaristo is convinced by references to columbus in the treaty that he helped king john ii in his demand to move the
1:00:21·divided line 180 leagues to the west giving domain to portugal in brazil and
1:00:28·canada such help on the part of columbus would amount to a true act of espionage
1:00:36·[Music] in the the in the description
1:00:41·of the motives the reasons why they're dividing up the world
1:00:48·there is direct reference to columbus so this is a pontifically
1:00:54·um overseeing document a treaty between two kingdoms two
1:01:00·nations rectified by the pope himself with direct mention
1:01:08·of christopher columbus evaristo carefully explores the yellowed
1:01:14·pages and columbus is actually referenced because
1:01:19·they use his discovery as the basis
1:01:26·of the place where they drew the line between portugal
1:01:31·and spain evaristo digs deeper into the document for more information
1:01:38·now you can see in the document the references to portugal and to its
1:01:44·discoveries and also to castile and if you look
1:01:50·here you see referenced king john's name
1:01:55·don juan the boundary line was changed hundreds of miles west after king john ii
1:02:02·demanded it be moved the move gave portugal much of brazil the existence of which had been a
1:02:09·closely held secret known only to portugal's great navigators
1:02:14·columbus surely helped convince his relative king john ii to push for the
1:02:20·westward expansion says evaristo by moving the line some 370 leagues from
1:02:26·what was originally proposed john ii and the templars of portugal
1:02:32·actually laid claim to brazil so the question is
1:02:37·did they know of brazil's existence before the treaty and before columbus
1:02:42·discovered america we believe they did the three raha explorers ponder the
1:02:49·changes in the treaty and their potential value but to dave horner there is no mystery
1:02:56·the value in moving the boundary to the west is as clear as the map in columbus's hands
1:03:02·the treaty of tortos executed is what might come out of that in the
1:03:08·future and if you put these two countries together and this would fit tuck up
1:03:13·under this cape here here they're finding you know the first big thing they found was the gold mine at mignon
1:03:19·exactly and so not only were they getting that out of africa
1:03:24·just exactly opposite on this side of the line of demarcation
1:03:31·where it was appearing gold and silver in brazil in brazil so
1:03:37·it all at one time perhaps was a continent that broke apart and and so
1:03:43·you can see today the the tremendous amount of raw material in valuable
1:03:50·jewels and metals that came out of not only here but also the african coastline in the
1:03:58·central part of africa so that was probably why portugal wanted the line moved from what was suggested by castile
1:04:05·so that they could have the 370 leagues and in this way keep brazil which they had already really never found that much
1:04:12·gold and silver in the new world just from the early discoveries but king
1:04:18·john wanted as much as he could get of anything and so he was successful in moving that line and his move
1:04:25·caused pretty good luck for the people who were backing in so in that sense if
1:04:31·columbus was a secret agent his mission was successful his mission was tremendously successful when you look at
1:04:37·the vast quantities of gold silver and all the related the metals and
1:04:43·and similar benefits that coming out of this not only this section of south
1:04:49·america but also the west coast too in the end says professor gandra these
1:04:54·and other actions of columbus make him one of history's most infamous
1:05:00·007s maybe well let me just ask you a question point blank
1:05:05·myth or fact was columbus a secret agent for king john ii it's fact
1:05:10·um we must understand two things uh very important
1:05:16·secret was only was always the great uh
1:05:22·goal of this uh enterprise discoveries since every navigator
1:05:29·but with john ii this was even bigger this secrecy was even bigger because
1:05:35·there was there were the spanish uh looking for the same things that we were we portuguese were
1:05:43·so john ii had to had to prevent the spanish to get there first and it was
1:05:49·why he tried with colomb to um
1:05:55·to uh to divert them to other places not to the south atlantic the south and the
1:06:01·atlantic but to the anthills to uh be lost there and not to follow
1:06:08·portuguese to the south occupied their time yeah yeah i think so and colin was
1:06:14·one of the main subjects to or main of those urgent agents portuguese agents
1:06:21·that uh did the that tried to do that so he'd be double 07.
1:06:28·yeah perhaps at that time [Music]
1:06:41·if columbus was indeed a secret agent then this is the smoking gun a safe conduct letter issued by king
1:06:48·john ii of portugal in the same year that he arrived in spain for the first time
1:06:54·[Music] the document identifies columbus as the most esteemed friend and agent of king
1:07:00·john ii it's both a get out of jail card and a license to kill that only a double 07
1:07:07·agent would have it was columbus's own son who referred
1:07:13·to this document for the first time in the biography of the admiral that he wrote
1:07:18·the document was rumored to have been lost and nobody had seen it for over 500
1:07:24·years but we rediscovered it in the archive of the indies in seville
1:07:30·in the reserve section the raha team returns to its
1:07:35·headquarters in orem castle to talk about the research
1:07:40·the three are thrilled with their findings i'm particularly impressed with the
1:07:46·particularly the youngest of the columbus sons who was begging and crying
1:07:52·at the deathbed of his father please father tell us who our father
1:07:57·really was we must know we're entitled to know that father those are the very words
1:08:04·and they also wanted to know what so many other people want to know was he a secret agent for king john ii
1:08:11·was he portuguese absolutely and his own son raised these questions and initiated the
1:08:18·investigation over 500 years ago he went three times to genoa and found no evidence that he was from genoa and then
1:08:25·declared that the only thing that he knew about his father was that at a
1:08:31·certain point in his life he went back to using the alias of christopher columbus but it wasn't just and only his
1:08:38·son the entire columbus family was so convinced of their fathers
1:08:45·telling the truth that they carried out a lawsuit against the government of spain for two and a
1:08:53·half centuries now that tells you something and you want to believe at least i want to know
1:08:59·who paid that legal bill was christopher columbus truly italian
1:09:04·or was he the illegitimate son of a portuguese prince was columbus jewish
1:09:10·was he a secret agent for king john ii of portugal the modern day explorers feel they had
1:09:17·almost assuredly answered those questions yet there is only one thing that keeps
1:09:22·them from declaring total victory the dna
1:09:28·the only source of dna that could link columbus directly to his supposed father
1:09:33·would be the dna of the portuguese royal family and the best source available would be
1:09:39·prince miguel de la paz believed to be a nephew of columbus
1:09:45·yet no matter how hard the raja team tried the keepers of the crypt at granada cathedral would not let them
1:09:51·open the young prince's coffin his eternal slumber was not to be interrupted
1:09:57·for the time being but maybe the answers they were looking
1:10:03·for already existed as the researchers were about to leave their interview with the duke of
1:10:09·braganza they stopped at painting showing his royal ancestors
1:10:15·it was there that the duke told them something they had not yet heard a sample of dna had been taken from him
1:10:21·for testing in dr lorente's lab the results although not conclusive he
1:10:27·said appear to have a dna link between him and the subject of the film
1:10:33·christopher columbus they convinced him to share those results on camera
1:10:39·well recently there have been new discoveries that are very interesting and that i would really advise you to
1:10:46·look at i'm not a professional historian and but i
1:10:52·i think it's a fascinating thing i did some dna tests
1:10:57·can you tell me yeah tell me about that well i don't know exactly the results because it seems it was difficult to
1:11:03·to establish the dna of christopher's columbus christian colombo but
1:11:09·it seems there is some dna connection between me and him
1:11:14·which is why the researchers from raha cannot declare the end of this subject
1:11:20·until final dna studies are able to be carried out the case of christopher
1:11:25·columbus has no ending a partial mystery
1:11:31·that remains to be continued
1:11:38·[Music]

51 posted on 10/11/2023 1:31:52 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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52 posted on 10/11/2023 1:32:22 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
This topic was posted 10/9/2020, just a re-ping.

53 posted on 10/11/2023 1:32:50 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Columbus Day - your list has to be one of your all-time largest.


54 posted on 10/11/2023 1:36:03 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: SunkenCiv

Who Was The Real Christopher Columbus?

An Italian guy in borrowed Spanish ships looking for India and winding up in the Caribbean.......................


55 posted on 10/11/2023 5:05:28 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: BamaBelle
My family that descended from this line were not nice people...sigh

Not nice people?...Read Charles Dickens " A Child's History of England" sometime. That will make your people look like alter boys!..............................

56 posted on 10/11/2023 5:09:38 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Verginius Rufus

See what happens when you overstay your welcome??

He Should have left at day 364 or when they started reading a French cookbook.


57 posted on 10/11/2023 8:45:47 AM PDT by Redcitizen
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To: linMcHlp

Heh, no, the really big ones are ten times and up larger! :^D


58 posted on 10/11/2023 9:00:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

the Afrocentrists are FOS-the Native tribes of the Americas were taking captives for slaves-and dinner-just like people all over the world did then-it appears that war has always meant killing, slavery rape and pillage, etc-humans were not peaceful.

Decades of archaeological digs have shown that the Olmecs lived in coastal areas along the Gulf of Mexico-but they only got there around 1500 BC-they were latecomers to an area where there were already people-so they were probably from S America-not right off the canoes from Africa.

They probably did have African DNA as well as Asian and Australasian DNA and maybe Polynesian DNA, because the mummies and other remains found all over the coastal areas of S America from as early as 15-20,000 years have DNA that is all of those mixed-race and ethnicity apparently were not issues then.

The Olmecs probably got out of Dodge because of the colder, drier weather that happened a few centuries ago, or because of one of the many volcanic eruptions that ruined their crops, water supply, etc...

With all the archaeological and historical evidence we have now, the question should not be who discovered America, but who DIDN’T. Let Columbus have his place of honor in history-he is the one that really got Europe and America together, for good or ill...


59 posted on 10/11/2023 1:15:09 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Redcitizen

I think the Frenchman was effectively a prisoner and did not have the option of leaving.


60 posted on 10/11/2023 2:22:44 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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