Posted on 02/09/2009 12:36:11 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny
Yahoo ran an interesting article this morning indicating a rise in the number of survivalist communities cropping up around the country. I have been wondering myself how much of the recent energy crisis is causing people to do things like stockpile food and water, grow their own vegetables, etc. Could it be that there are many people out there stockpiling and their increased buying has caused food prices to increase? It’s an interesting theory, but I believe increased food prices have more to do with rising fuel prices as cost-to-market costs have increased and grocers are simply passing those increases along to the consumer. A recent stroll through the camping section of Wal-Mart did give me pause - what kinds of things are prudent to have on hand in the event of a worldwide shortage of food and/or fuel? Survivalist in Training
I’ve been interested in survival stories since I was a kid, which is funny considering I grew up in a city. Maybe that’s why the idea of living off the land appealed to me. My grandfather and I frequently took camping trips along the Blue Ridge Parkway and around the Smoky Mountains. Looking back, some of the best times we had were when we stayed at campgrounds without electricity hookups, because it forced us to use what we had to get by. My grandfather was well-prepared with a camp stove and lanterns (which ran off propane), and when the sun went to bed we usually did along with it. We played cards for entertainment, and in the absence of televisions, games, etc. we shared many great conversations. Survivalist in the Neighborhood
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>>>Oh, I know you wouldn’t tell us wrong! It’s only if I follow instructions wrong....<<<
LOL Now CB, you know I just couldn’t pass up the opportunity to give you a hard time...
Well, I got about a third of my 2014 firewood planted today... I made 500 cuttings and have planted 350 so far... I try to keep planting about 1,000 a year of the clones of hybrid poplars... While they are not the very best for firewood, they do have a pretty good heat output and they grow really fast... by 2014, the cuttings I planted today will be about 4”-5” in diameter and 30’ tall, so I won’t have to split wood, just cut, season and burn...
We burn less than a third of that - but I like to build up a backlog and also try to have enough for daughter and SIL to burn too, which leaves the balance for stockpile. Right now I have enough for next year already cut and under a shed seasoning really well. I have enough room there for about a 3 year supply.
>>>The last that I heard, they had declared that a Wetland!!!!<<<
LOL They don’t know the difference between a wetland and a mirage!
You can spit out there and it evaporates before it hits the ground...
Obama Requires YOU to SERVE, H.R.1388, “The Give Act” to reform the National Service Laws
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2206670/posts
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Sure he does, you ‘all had better praying that the lawsuits about where he was born, get won by an American, or we will have a choice of the prison camps, or a mental hospital.
But the Big Wazoos of regulation in the District of Columbia don’t care about details. According to the EPA’s spokesperson, the agency’s goal is “to protect public health,” so the dust must go. How that will be done is somewhat less clear. Perhaps gigantic plastic sheets to trap the noxious stuff before it offends the nostrils of those who eat what farmers grow?<<<
I can think of lots of ways to protect the public health, like teach those fools a little science.
I get mad when folks clear off their whole 2 acre lots, you can look across the valley and see where they are building, by looking at the small sandstorms.
But, I never asked for a law on it, even if I did have a hard time breathing when they cleared for the new house across the street.
I usually have the last laugh, for the fools will fill in all those little one foot deep washes that God put there to drain the land and a wall of water will hit with such force that it opens up new washes, so what if it now runs in the front door and out the back?
THE COMPOSTING GREENHOUSE <<<
I think it is a fine idea.
Not that surprising, as they used to heat the cold frames with manure, placed at the bottom, and soil over it.
The hippies did a lot, to bring back the old ways of doing things, much of what we find today comes from their efforts, as does wind and solar energy.
True some worked with it long ago, as I knew a Ben Gilbough, he and Barney Oldfield invented the hot tube, the forerunner of our sparkplugs.
Ben had in the mid 1960’s electric in his house, that was powered by a magneto, attached to a Franklin rear end and it was mounted as part of his windmill.
LOL, as I recall it from over 40 years ago, when he explained it to me, the set up had powered 2 light bulbs of 25 watts for over 50 years.
LOL They don’t know the difference between a wetland and a mirage!<<<
You just exposed their secret, they are seeing mirages.
When we lived in Wellton, we mirages EVERY morning and often saw the Florida swamps and so much more too.
We once followed a train for miles, saw it curve on the bends and slow as it climbed......except there was no train, no tracks and it was a mirage.
We were on I-8 freeway, only about 7 miles from home when I looked out the car window and saw it.
One Christmas morning, I got up and as usual checked the mirage, as I put coffee on, then happened to look out another window and God was putting hills and mountains all over my flat land.
It was something to see, like quicksilver almost as they formed and then once it was finished, you would swear that you were looking at the real thing.
It was the closest that I had ever been to one, less than 50 foot from the mobile.
There is one treasure story, that can only be found, by looking for the sailing ship, from a certain wash, on a certain day, within a 3 day period, you will see a mirage of a sailing ship, and when you go to the wash it is in, you will find gold on the ground there.
An old man did that for years, never took out more than he needed to live until next year and the location died with him.
Gold nuggets, washed free by the floods.
The man lived all his life in a tiny [then] town of Jacumba and he paid for it all with gold nuggets.
>>>Not that surprising, as they used to heat the cold frames with manure, placed at the bottom, and soil over it.<<<
Yep, horse manure works really well for it...
I have grown salad fixins all winter by digging a trench and filling it with horse manure, covered with about 6” of soil, then put bales of straw all around that with plastic covering the top and outside of the bales, then a double plastic frame cover on top that we had to open on warmer days. Works great!
Oh, geez how frustrating. I would think being out of the city and in the middle of your acreage would give you some distance. I guess criminals have no respect these days. Nor liberals with an entitlement attitude. Are they illegals or anchors (since you said he couldn’t understand you)? All the border states are full of ‘em, I’d guess. CA is bad, TX is almost as bad - and I haven’t lived in the other 2 states but did live near NM once. It was bad as well. Funny thing that crime and # of illegals are related. Those that don’t respect our laws from the very beginning will never do so - libs have no common sense whatsoever.
Keep your powder dry - and handy!
Wow, those trees grow fast in 5 years. Cutting them when they’re the right size for burning is smart.
We just get our firewood from downed or almost downed trees from the forest. Winter is tough on the old trees and there’s always a mess when the snow melts. There’s more than enough just on our property alone, but it does require some fun with chainsaws and log splitters. But we need to do lot cleanup anyway because of fire danger in the summer here.
We went up there from Wed-Sun. Every time I go up, I feel immediately at home and peaceful. Even though it’s not the ideal conditions for survival, it’s home and I love it there. A bit more in the summer (snow is not my favorite - but it is amelting!) I’m going to try to plant some mountain crops - potatoes and barley, I’ve read about.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2208005/posts
Youth Corps to help keep California green
AFP ^ | March 16, 2009
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 7:47:40 PM by Free ThinkerNY
Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger has announced the creation of a youth environmental corps tasked with protecting California’s verdant ecology, while training for future employment in the emerging “green economy.”
Yep, horse manure works really well for it...<<<
Yes, it does, I used it and planned to grow New Zealand Spinach over winter, it grew so well that it took over the entire bed and self sowed for several years, this was in an attached greenhouse.
It was nice, having fresh greens in the dead of winter.
There are many of the old ways, that I need to look up and see if they are still known today.
I have also used the straw bales for growing and as a quick shelter for baby chicks and ducks, drop a light bulb in the middle so they can keep warm and cover them with chicken wire and plywood, works very well.
Oh, you did. I copied about 4 whole wheat bread recipes and can’t wait to try them! Sourdough I think.<<<
Good for you, I love bread recipes, always have.
I never know what is next in my searching around, one link leads to the next one.
Funny thing that crime and # of illegals are related.<<<
Yes, it is odd, for years ago, the illegals were mostly here to work and we had no fear of them at all.
Then in about 1977, another kind of illegal started following the same paths the older ones had, but they did not come for a job and making money, they were scary, younger, better dressed and instead of hoping the rest of their trip went safely, you had to call the Police to chase them off.
As for the folks across the street, a grandmother and her teen age daughter moved in, in a travel trailer and they were ok, I made an effort and LOL, even shared my squash with them.
Then the kid slipped, “Dad comes here next week” ....
“Oh where is he?”
“He has been in prison, in Calif.”
Turned out her mother, older brothers and dad all had records and so did granny, kinda a Ma Barker clan.
Only granny died with cancer and now they are back.
I forgot one more thing El Paso had - every house had those ugly bars on all windows and doors. This was forty years ago. Long before the rest of the country even knew what they were.
Now, I’m seeing them crop up all over our neighborhoods here. They’re not nearly as ugly, though, as they used to be. But it still gives the impression of living in a fortress vs. a home.
[At this link, wait for the page to load and you will find more communist in America news and photos, then you will in our regular news, then read the article....granny]
http://panafricannews.blogspot.com/2009/03/president-chavez-orders-navy-to.html
From a Google alert:
Pan-African News Wire: President Chavez Orders Navy to Venezuela’s ...
By Pan-African News Wire
CARACAS, Venezuela - President Hugo Chavez on Sunday dispatched the navy to
Venezuela’s seaports, warning that state governors who challenge a new law
bringing transportation hubs under federal control could end up in prison.
Speaking during his weekly television and radio program, Chavez ordered
naval vessels to seize control this week of Port Cabello in Carabobo state
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Pan-African News Wire
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[Now why do I feel like obama is following the chavez leadership, “Stick with me baby and I will show you how to rule a country” pattern?]
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Chavez’s allies won 17 of 22 gubernatorial races in November elections. But opposition leaders gained ground, winning five gubernatorial posts and the Caracas mayor’s office.
Following the vote, Chavez signed a series of decrees giving his government control over hospitals, sports stadiums and other public institutions in states won by the opposition.
Posted by Pan-African News Wire at 1:30 AM
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