Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)

Israel Insider ^ | 3 July 2008 | Reuven Koret

[SE Mom]

Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.

The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.

The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.

Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.

McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.

[David]

Fred--as part of your analysis about where she was until 1963, you have her enrolled at the U of W in August of 1961.

Nothing in the communication from the U of W suggests that is a fact. And I did post the date--every time I have addressed the facts, I post the dates.

Fall quarter at the U of W starts in the last week of September or first week of October depending on the year--long after August. Washington is on a quarter system and the dates are way off the current national college calendar.

As to Ms. Blake, not only is the interview published in video and she looks and sounds credible, but there were follow on interviews published in news organs. And, as the post following yours suggests, she was a credible local person on Mercer Island who clearly knew Stanley Ann.

From my perspective, the only time line that fits all the known facts has a birth in Mombasa Kenya, followed by an urgent trip on BOAC through Vancouver BC to Hawaii (with a stop on Mercer Island).

When the real birth filing ultimately appears, I speculate that it will have his footprint on it implanted and attested in Honolulu for the reason that at the time, someone wanted to make some record that he was a Hawaii US person and citizen. In those days, the footprint was the test of the birth document.

If I get to speculate further, I would also guess that there is some obvious flaw in the filing that makes the actual birth in Kenya clear. Maybe they didn't understand the real statute on citizenship and thought that he made a citizen as a result of Stanley Ann's citizenship and Hawaii residence.

[David]

If it's NOT true, if the woman was rehearsed, and speaking only to fit the 'Dreams' timeline, then what have you?

One of the reasons you doubt she was rehearsed is because she thinks Stanley Ann was on her way through Seattle to visit Obama Sr. in Boston when she was there. Historical fact is that Obama Sr. was not in Boston until a year later.

If you were preping her to testify, you would have fixed that by reminding her why Stanley Ann had her two or three day old kid on Mercer Island in August 1961.

And you accept the August 1961 date because Jr. was in diapers and mother had not yet learned to change them.

[David]

That link is to a reprint of the article on ATLAS SHRUGGED: http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/10/how-could-stanl.html HOW COULD STANLEY ANN DUNHAM HAVE DELIVERED BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA JR. IN AUGUST OF 1961 IN HONOLULU, WHEN OFFICIAL UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON RECORDS SHOW HER 2680 MILES AWAY IN SEATTLE ATTENDING CLASSES THAT SAME MONTH?

And again, that link is simply wrong--the Washington records show she was enrolled for fall quarter in 1961 which started in late September, almost two months after Jr. was born.

And there were no attendance records of which I am aware--she may or may not have been on campus in October 1961.

[Fred Nerks]

One of the reasons you doubt she was rehearsed is because she thinks Stanley Ann was on her way through Seattle to visit Obama Sr. in Boston when she was there. Historical fact is that Obama Sr. was not in Boston until a year later.

I think you meant to write 'one of the reasons you BELIEVE she was rehearsed'

And yes, that is the prime reason. There is no way Stanley Ann would have told her she was on the way to Boston or anywhere on the mainland, 'to join her husband' because obama snr didn't leave Hawaii until JUNE 22, 1962.

If you were preping her to testify, you would have fixed that by reminding her why Stanley Ann had her two or three day old kid on Mercer Island in August 1961.

Tell me why.

And you accept the August 1961 date because Jr. was in diapers and mother had not yet learned to change them.

No I don't. She said what she said, Boston and all. I don't believe anything she had to say. Her 'testimony' isn't credible IMO.

Question 1: Why do you think the original Susan Blake video was withdrawn?

Question 2: Why do you think the truncated version replaced it?

Please do not assume I accept anything or everything from that Atlas Shrugs article, just because I linked to it. That article, filled with interesting detail, is NOT the final answer to the question I pose:

WHERE WAS STANLEY ANN BETWEEN SUMMER OF 1960 UNTIL SHE SHOWED UP WITH AN (APPROX) TWO YEAR OLD IN HAWAII?

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Obama’s Unreleased Background Documentation

This data originally garnered from TheObamaFile.com.

* Original, vault copy birth certificate — Not released — Lawyers fees — greater than $1,000,000 — birth certificate — $15.
* Certification of Live Birth — Released – Counterfeit – Case and Affidavits
* Admitted British citizenship at birth — Confirmed via FactCheck.org/FightTheSmears.com
* Birth Announcement — Alleged to be a forgery
* Obama/Dunham marriage license — Not released
* Obama/Dunham divorce – Released (by independent investigators)
* Kindergarten records – Records lost (this is a big one — see here – read two frames)
* Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released
* Soetoro adoption records — Not released
* Fransiskus Assisi School School application — Released (by independent investigators)
* Punahou School records — Not released
* Soetoro/Dunham divorce – Released (by independent investigators)
* Selective Service Registration — Released – Counterfeit
* Occidental College records — Not released
* Passport — Not released and records scrubbed clean by Obama’s terrorism and intelligence adviser
* Columbia College records — Not released
* Columbia thesis — “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament” – Not released
* Harvard College records — Not released
* Harvard Law Review articles — None
* Illinois Bar Records — Not released.
* Baptism certificate — None
* Medical records — Not released
* Illinois State Senate records — None
* Illinois State Senate schedule — Lost
* Law practice client list — Not released
* University of Chicago scholarly articles — None

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?page_id=6192

[LucyT]

Update:

0bama has lived for half a century without leaving any footprints — none. Why would (and how could) that be?

Here is the tip of the iceberg:

The Noelani Elementary School Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.

Confirmed by Beckwith — Reliable source*.

“I acquired the picture below from Winifred (Wakai) Otaguro, who was in Ms. Sakai’s kindergarten class at Noelani Elementary School in 1967. Otaguro’s mother, Betty Wakai, had written the names of most of the kids in the class on the back of the picture. Her writing identifies the first little boy in the third row as “Barry Obama.” Obama’s sister Maya Soetoro-Ng confirms that the boy is Obama, however, the Department of Education has been unable to find his records.”

*Kelli Abe Trifonovitch, writing in Hawaii Business:

Being-Local-Barry-and-Bryan

http://www.hawaiibusiness.com/Hawaii-Business/October-2008/Being-Local-Barry-and-Bryan/

This is an important feature because K-records for original school entry would have contained the following:

1. His REAL Birth Certificate.

2. An application with the following:

—1.. His Legal name.
—2.. Parents or Legal Guardians’ names.
—3. Date of Birth
—4. Place of Birth
—5. Vaccination Records (revealing a timeline to the place and DOB.)

It also is important for two reasons:

A. The Dept.of Education does not “lose” the records of one particular student. (So, ... Who paid whom what sum to make this record disappear?)

B. There would have been NO shameful low-test scores, NO embarassing Equal Opportunity advancements, and NO trails of fraudulent funding to hide which could possibly ‘excuse’ the quashing of public school Kindergarten entry records. For the rest of his life he attended very expensive private schools and has had his records legally sealed to deny the public, his true life story.

This is different. Hawaii should be able to verify he attended their school since he is featured in class photographs. State and federal tax dollars paid for his initial year of education. Why is there no documentation?

This is the ‘tip of the iceberg’ of an intentionally erased life of a fraudulent conman and it reeks of complicity by officials within the State of Hawaii’s Dept. of Health & Dept. of Education

Original, vault copy birth certificate — Not released
Noelani Elementary School Kindergarten records - Missing

Certificate of Live Birth — Released — Counterfeit
0bama/Dunham marriage license — Not released
0bama/Dunham divorce — Released (by independent investigators):

Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro adoption records — Not released

Soetoro/Dunham divorce — Released (by independent investigators):

Fransiskus Assisi School School application — Released
Punahou School records — Not released
Selective Service Registration — Released — Counterfeit
0ccidental College records — Not released
Passport (Pakistan) — Not released
Columbia College records — Not released
Columbia thesis — Not released
Harvard College records — Not released
Harvard Law Review articles — None (maybe 1, unsigned?)
Baptism certificate — None
Medical records — Not released
Illinois State Senate records — None
Illinois State Senate schedule — Lost
Law practice client list — Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles — None

From ‘The Obama File’ by Beckwith (our own FReeper)

http://www.theobamafile.com/

The United States Library of Congress has selected TheObamaFile.com for inclusion in its historic collections of Internet materials.

http://www.theobamafile.com/LibraryOfCongress.html

[Fred Nerks]

Elementary. Obama began his education in Hawaii's public schools. He was enrolled in Ms. Sakai’s kindergarten class at Noelani Elementary School in 1967. He was only there a couple or three months before he was off to Indonesia.

The first little boy in the third row, left is "Barry Obama." Obama’s sister Maya Soetoro-Ng confirms that the boy is Obama.

The two white girls in the same row are probably the Nordyke twins. They were not identical twins, but they did have the same smile. They were born the same time as Obama. I still want to know what happened to their birth announcement. Twins, being born to a prominent physician is news. More specifically, I want to know what happened to the space their birth announcement was in.

Or am I expected to believe that Vital Statistics included Obama's name on their announcement list, and forgot the Nordyke Twins?

Born within hours of Obama according to Eleanor Nordyke, their names should be here:

Birth Announcement here -- expand to regular size to read. (See Obama File Link.)

The Nordyke twin girls were born the next day(early evening 6 pmish) and the only reason I can see for their names not appearing in the Vital Stats birth announcements was that an entire story was devoted to them considering their father’s position as a doctor. I never did find out how many beds were available at the Kapiolani Maternity Home at the time nor did I find out exactly what Doctor Nordyke’s position (he was an internist wasn’t he?) was at the time or what residents worked at the hospital at the time.

Here's a surprise! Hawaii's Department of Education has been unable to find his Kindergarten records.

THE OBAMA FILE-EDUCATION

[Polarik]

When I read that interview with G. Gordon Liddy today and he’s talking about Obama’s COLB as if it exists, it does nothing to validate my research.

Same thing with Joe Farah, who refuses to mention that the COLB is bogus, and talks as if it also exists.

Posting a false identification document is, by itself, big enough to warrant a federal investigation.

[Fred Nerks]

“...Posting a false identification document is, by itself, big enough to warrant a federal investigation.

And what did the mouthpiece for the Whitehouse say? “WE PUT IT ON THE INTERNET”

Freepers: Here’s G Gordon Liddy’s e-mail addy:

http://www.liddyshow.com/contact.php

Email the G-Man:
thegman@radioamerica.org

SEND HIM THE LINK TO POLARIK’S ANALYSIS!

http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/

[LucyT]

[Fred Nerks]

knowing what arabs really think of blacks, that gold ‘chain’ is quite symbolic. But he’s an idiot, and wouldn’t know that.

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Info for long thread references:

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To: sionnsar; Fred Nerks

You will discover that there is also another brother Jon who is pictured with Ann and Jr during the often mentioned across America tour when Jr was 11 or 12. In the picture Jon describes as his long hair days, you can see Ann, Jr and Jon in Chicago. Jon is the youngest and at one time lived in AZ, while Arlene lives in N.C. and Charles lives in Chicago and has for many years.

FredNerks has the most extensive photo collection and would know exactly which photo I am referring to. It has been posted on FR in the past but I must confess that I do not know exactly which thread it was posted on although I am sure that FredNerks does have or knows of the photo which I am referring to.

45 posted on Monday, June 01, 2009 9:46:31 PM by Chief Engineer

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2262532/posts?page=60#45

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To: Fred Nerks

Here is the picture of Madelyn Dunham’s youngest brother Jack aka Jon when the famly made the across America tour during Jr’s 11th or 1th year and Stanley Armour remained in HI. This picture was taken in Chicago and the picture includes Ann, Jr and Jon in his long hair days in the background drinking a bottle of beer.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2040486/posts?q=1&;page=6001

post 6232

Since you say you have never seen the picture before you had better save it for your collection!

85 posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:13:00 PM by Chief Engineer

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2262532/posts?page=87#85

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Post 6232 referenced above:

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To: RubyR

Just throwing this on here - another pic of a young Obama and Mom. From this article:

http://www.kold.com/Global/story.asp?S=9301819&nav=14RSYdSB

6,232 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 11:26:33 AM by RubyR

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2040486/posts?q=1&;page=6221#6232

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Article referenced above:

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Obama’s great uncle speaks about the win and the loss

Posted: Nov 5, 2008 10:18 PM

Obama’s great uncle, who lives in Southern Arizona, shares pictures of his family with KOLD News 13.

Obama’s great uncle, who lives in Southern Arizona, shares pictures of his family with KOLD News 13.

Jon Payne says his sister— Obama’s grandmother— died peacefully.

A picture of the family and a young Obama on the right.

By J.D. Wallace - email

The election of Barack Obama as the nation’s next president is still hard for Jon Payne to believe. His great nephew will be the next leader of the free world.

“Unbelievable,” Jon Payne said as he watched Barack Obama on television Wednesday. “I always had (a gut feeling that) he was going to do it.”

But that great gain came after a great loss.

“Peaceful is the way she went,” Payne described the death of his sister.

Jon Payne mourned his sister Madelyne Payne Dunham’s death Sunday, and celebrated his great nephew Barack Obama’s presidential victory Tuesday.

“We were hoping that she would make it, but... I just don’t think medically it was in the cards,” Payne said about the time of his sister’s death.

She was Obama’s grandmother.

Payne showed pictures of them all in Chicago back in 2000 and some with Obama at an earlier time.

“Me in my long hair years,” he said as he pointed to the photograph. “And this is Ann, this is Barack’s mother, and this is Barack. Barack’s about 12.”

Payne almost caught up with Obama last month as family visited Dunham in Hawaii.

“She celebrated her birthday by having a glass of wine and a cigarette, so it was pretty remarkable,” Payne laughed.

He knows Obama saw her earlier.

“His sister said that Madelyn said that ‘Oh, you’re here, you have such beautiful brown eyes,’” Payne said.

And Payne thinks she also saw her grandson win.

“I think she was still in charge,” Payne laughed.

Dunham’s ashes will be sprinkled in the same place in Hawaii as those of Obama’s mother, Ann.

http://www.kold.com/Global/story.asp?S=9301819&nav=14RSYdSB

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To: Chief Engineer; Fred Nerks; Polarik; LucyT; STARWISE
Here’s another shot of the same photo that ran with a story during the campaign:

Does this cross-country bus trip in the Summer (most likely when BHO would have been on Summer vacation) of either 1972 or 1973 jive with your timelines? This is from the Obama Timeline on Colony 14:

Dunham leaves Lolo Soetoro in 1972 (possibly due to heavy drinking and womanizing) and returns briefly to Hawaii.

I was unaware of such a trip ... and wonder if there were any other sightings.

Obama’s Arizona Ties

Sahuarita resident Jon Payne, left, plays a friendly game of darts with his niece Ann Dunham and her son Barack Obama. The photo was taken in Overland Park, KS, in the early 1970’s when Obama was 11 or 12 years old, Payne said.

By Jaime Richardson | Green Valley News
Published: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:42 PM MDT

Barack Obama’s great-uncle, Sahuarita resident Jon Payne, says the past few months have been a “surreal experience” for him and his family.

“Sometimes it’s hard to believe this is all really happening, and I just have to snap myself back to reality.”

Payne, 70, a retired urban planner originally from Wichita, Kan., has lived in Rancho Sahuarita with his wife, Sue, since 2004. His 86-year-old sister, Madeline Payne Dunham, is Obama’s maternal grandmother, who helped raise him as a child.

Payne is just four years older than Obama’s mother, Ann, and says the two were very close growing up.

“She was a wonderful lady, and she would have been very proud of her son,” he said.

Obama was 11 or 12 years old when he, his mother and half-sister took a bus trip across the country with their grandmother and stopped in Kansas to visit the family. This was the first time they met, says Payne, who described the young Obama as a “bright young man” who was “very personable and outgoing.”

Photos from this time show Jon, Ann and Barack smiling and laughing as they play a game of darts, the 2008 presidential candidate’s bright smile instantly recognizable in the snapshot taken more than 35 years ago.

Payne isn’t too close with Obama, who grew up mainly in Hawaii and Indonesia. But his sister and her late husband took him in at the age of 10, raising him in their Honolulu home until his graduation from high school. Obama affectionately calls her “toot,” short for “tutu,” the Hawaiian word for grandparent.

Payne says Madeline now suffers from osteoporosis and other serious health problems. She underwent surgery for corneal implants a year ago, “which is a big undertaking for someone who’s 86,” he said.

“We think it’s because she wanted to be able to see the T.V. — so she could see Barack.”

Payne has spoken to the Democratic Club of the Santa Rita Area several times and has participated in rallies held in Tucson and Green Valley in support of his great-nephew, but insists he’s no politician.

“The family here in America has tried to keep a low profile and not say anything that would have a negative effect on Barack or his campaign. We all fully support him and wish him well.”

But he says that their pride in Obama’s accomplishments is combined with as serious concern for his safety.

“Barack and his family are living a very high profile lifestyle, and we’re worried about all the crazies out there,” he said, citing Tuesday’s arrest of four men at the Democratic National Convention connected to an assassination plot.

In spite of the challenges that may lay ahead for the candidate, Payne hopes that Obama will win the election.

“We just can’t go on the way we have been,” he said. “I think he’s the best option we’ve got for some real change in this country.”

jrichardson@gvnews.com | 547-9726

87 posted on Friday, June 05, 2009 9:07:23 AM by BP2

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2262532/posts?page=87#87

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Blog - records re Obama home property records at
5046 S. Greenwood Ave., Chicago, IL 60615 in the
name of William Miceli. Wonder if it’s still held
that way.

http://ginacobb.typepad.com/files/5046_greenwood_av_lexus.pdf

[Fred Nerks]

Over the past few days FReeper (anon) went to the library and checked out the Polk Directory entry for 1961-62 in the name of Anna Obama. It’s there. The only thing we do not know is when the directory was compiled, how long between gathering the info and the release. If Anna Obama is Stanley Ann Dunham then we can say she did spend some time at that address.

http://blog.seattlepi.com/print.asp?entryID=159396

The various articles to do with Charles T Payne highlighted his position at the Library of the University of Chicago. He commenced his employment at the library in 1960.

http://talkinstuff.wordpress.com/2009/05/09/charles-payne-world-war-ii-veteran/

“...After receiving a degree in engineering from Kansas State University, Charles Payne moved to Chicago in 1960 where he spent most of his career working in library science at the University of Chicago...”

In ‘Dreams From My Father’ obama mentions (I have not read the book) that his mother was accepted to attend the University of Chicago.

The connection between the University of Chicago and the Dunhams appears to be a strong one. Obama taught there...

“...From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School. He was a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996. He was a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004, during which time he taught three courses per year...”

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obama_not_law_professor_just_taught_at_law_school/

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/05/03/us/politics/03obama.span.jpg

“...His most original course, a historical and political seminar as much as a legal one, was on racism and law. Mr. Obama improvised his own textbook, including classic cases like Brown v. Board of Education, and essays by Frederick Douglass, W. E. B. Dubois, the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Malcolm X, as well as conservative thinkers like Robert H. Bork.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/30/us/politics/30law.html?ref=politics

Charles T Payne is now 84 years of age. He retired when he was 70. That makes his birth year 1925. In 1960 he would have been 35YO. Retirement at 70 would make the retirement year 1995.

Charles T Payne was at the University of Chicago when obama started his lectures there in 1992.

Charles T Payne IMO knows more about the paternity of obama than we are allowed to know.

The only ‘evidence’ that Stanley Ann Dunham was in Hawaii between Summer of 1960 until the time she showed up with an (approx) two year old, would appear to be:

http://usera.imagecave.com/Bessie/2540.jpg

[mojitojoe]

Anyone know where this picture was taken? Also what about the other 2 items? I would imagine this is fake and someone was having some fun with photoshop:

[dixiechick2000]

I have no idea about any of your questions, but I ask that you ping me if you find the answers.

Thank you!

[CaliforniaCon]

From the looks of the license plate on the car at left side of photo, and the appearance of the ‘buildings’ (huts?) nearby, I’d say it’s possibly Kenya.

[LucyT]

Thanks, mojitojoe.

Ping to new information, with photos.

[CaliforniaCon]

I Googled “Kenyan license plates” and sure enough there are some links.

Saw one that looks just like what’s on that car in the photo. Of course the same thing could easily appear elsewhere, but those buildings sure don’t look like Chicago or NY or DC or Hawaii.