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To: Fred Nerks; sionnsar; BP2; Chief Engineer; All

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To: sionnsar; Fred Nerks

You will discover that there is also another brother Jon who is pictured with Ann and Jr during the often mentioned across America tour when Jr was 11 or 12. In the picture Jon describes as his long hair days, you can see Ann, Jr and Jon in Chicago. Jon is the youngest and at one time lived in AZ, while Arlene lives in N.C. and Charles lives in Chicago and has for many years.

FredNerks has the most extensive photo collection and would know exactly which photo I am referring to. It has been posted on FR in the past but I must confess that I do not know exactly which thread it was posted on although I am sure that FredNerks does have or knows of the photo which I am referring to.

45 posted on Monday, June 01, 2009 9:46:31 PM by Chief Engineer

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2262532/posts?page=60#45

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To: Fred Nerks

Here is the picture of Madelyn Dunham’s youngest brother Jack aka Jon when the famly made the across America tour during Jr’s 11th or 1th year and Stanley Armour remained in HI. This picture was taken in Chicago and the picture includes Ann, Jr and Jon in his long hair days in the background drinking a bottle of beer.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2040486/posts?q=1&;page=6001

post 6232

Since you say you have never seen the picture before you had better save it for your collection!

85 posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:13:00 PM by Chief Engineer

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2262532/posts?page=87#85

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To: RubyR

Just throwing this on here - another pic of a young Obama and Mom. From this article:

http://www.kold.com/Global/story.asp?S=9301819&nav=14RSYdSB

6,232 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 11:26:33 AM by RubyR

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2040486/posts?q=1&;page=6221#6232

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Article referenced above:

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Obama’s great uncle speaks about the win and the loss

Posted: Nov 5, 2008 10:18 PM

Obama’s great uncle, who lives in Southern Arizona, shares pictures of his family with KOLD News 13.

Obama’s great uncle, who lives in Southern Arizona, shares pictures of his family with KOLD News 13.

Jon Payne says his sister— Obama’s grandmother— died peacefully.

A picture of the family and a young Obama on the right.

By J.D. Wallace - email

The election of Barack Obama as the nation’s next president is still hard for Jon Payne to believe. His great nephew will be the next leader of the free world.

“Unbelievable,” Jon Payne said as he watched Barack Obama on television Wednesday. “I always had (a gut feeling that) he was going to do it.”

But that great gain came after a great loss.

“Peaceful is the way she went,” Payne described the death of his sister.

Jon Payne mourned his sister Madelyne Payne Dunham’s death Sunday, and celebrated his great nephew Barack Obama’s presidential victory Tuesday.

“We were hoping that she would make it, but... I just don’t think medically it was in the cards,” Payne said about the time of his sister’s death.

She was Obama’s grandmother.

Payne showed pictures of them all in Chicago back in 2000 and some with Obama at an earlier time.

“Me in my long hair years,” he said as he pointed to the photograph. “And this is Ann, this is Barack’s mother, and this is Barack. Barack’s about 12.”

Payne almost caught up with Obama last month as family visited Dunham in Hawaii.

“She celebrated her birthday by having a glass of wine and a cigarette, so it was pretty remarkable,” Payne laughed.

He knows Obama saw her earlier.

“His sister said that Madelyn said that ‘Oh, you’re here, you have such beautiful brown eyes,’” Payne said.

And Payne thinks she also saw her grandson win.

“I think she was still in charge,” Payne laughed.

Dunham’s ashes will be sprinkled in the same place in Hawaii as those of Obama’s mother, Ann.

http://www.kold.com/Global/story.asp?S=9301819&nav=14RSYdSB

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To: Chief Engineer; Fred Nerks; Polarik; LucyT; STARWISE
Here’s another shot of the same photo that ran with a story during the campaign:

Does this cross-country bus trip in the Summer (most likely when BHO would have been on Summer vacation) of either 1972 or 1973 jive with your timelines? This is from the Obama Timeline on Colony 14:

Dunham leaves Lolo Soetoro in 1972 (possibly due to heavy drinking and womanizing) and returns briefly to Hawaii.

I was unaware of such a trip ... and wonder if there were any other sightings.

Obama’s Arizona Ties

Sahuarita resident Jon Payne, left, plays a friendly game of darts with his niece Ann Dunham and her son Barack Obama. The photo was taken in Overland Park, KS, in the early 1970’s when Obama was 11 or 12 years old, Payne said.

By Jaime Richardson | Green Valley News
Published: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:42 PM MDT

Barack Obama’s great-uncle, Sahuarita resident Jon Payne, says the past few months have been a “surreal experience” for him and his family.

“Sometimes it’s hard to believe this is all really happening, and I just have to snap myself back to reality.”

Payne, 70, a retired urban planner originally from Wichita, Kan., has lived in Rancho Sahuarita with his wife, Sue, since 2004. His 86-year-old sister, Madeline Payne Dunham, is Obama’s maternal grandmother, who helped raise him as a child.

Payne is just four years older than Obama’s mother, Ann, and says the two were very close growing up.

“She was a wonderful lady, and she would have been very proud of her son,” he said.

Obama was 11 or 12 years old when he, his mother and half-sister took a bus trip across the country with their grandmother and stopped in Kansas to visit the family. This was the first time they met, says Payne, who described the young Obama as a “bright young man” who was “very personable and outgoing.”

Photos from this time show Jon, Ann and Barack smiling and laughing as they play a game of darts, the 2008 presidential candidate’s bright smile instantly recognizable in the snapshot taken more than 35 years ago.

Payne isn’t too close with Obama, who grew up mainly in Hawaii and Indonesia. But his sister and her late husband took him in at the age of 10, raising him in their Honolulu home until his graduation from high school. Obama affectionately calls her “toot,” short for “tutu,” the Hawaiian word for grandparent.

Payne says Madeline now suffers from osteoporosis and other serious health problems. She underwent surgery for corneal implants a year ago, “which is a big undertaking for someone who’s 86,” he said.

“We think it’s because she wanted to be able to see the T.V. — so she could see Barack.”

Payne has spoken to the Democratic Club of the Santa Rita Area several times and has participated in rallies held in Tucson and Green Valley in support of his great-nephew, but insists he’s no politician.

“The family here in America has tried to keep a low profile and not say anything that would have a negative effect on Barack or his campaign. We all fully support him and wish him well.”

But he says that their pride in Obama’s accomplishments is combined with as serious concern for his safety.

“Barack and his family are living a very high profile lifestyle, and we’re worried about all the crazies out there,” he said, citing Tuesday’s arrest of four men at the Democratic National Convention connected to an assassination plot.

In spite of the challenges that may lay ahead for the candidate, Payne hopes that Obama will win the election.

“We just can’t go on the way we have been,” he said. “I think he’s the best option we’ve got for some real change in this country.”

jrichardson@gvnews.com | 547-9726

87 posted on Friday, June 05, 2009 9:07:23 AM by BP2

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2262532/posts?page=87#87


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