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Posts by MurphsLaw

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  • Learning from the Early Church: It is necessary for us to undergo many hardships to enter the kingdom of God

    05/23/2022 9:56:57 AM PDT · 34 of 34
    MurphsLaw to Bob434

    OK.

  • Speaking Of Schisms

    05/22/2022 9:24:39 PM PDT · 31 of 31
    MurphsLaw to metmom
    The First Bible printed, in Germany no less- about 100 Years before Luther- (and Trent) was the 73 book Catholic Church Latin Vulgate Bible- based on St. Jerome’s version, over 1000 years prior.

    Gutenberg chose to print the Bible - 73 books - as that was the Bible of his day- in Germany.
    So was Gutenberg wrong?
    You would think that’s what the used to celebrate Mass with.
    Now maybe Gutenberg just got lucky and coincidentally got the number of books exactly right For his Bible, including Sirach, ( not 70- or 71.... but the 73 we use today)- but that’s really a stretch. Copies of that Bible still exist.

    What Luther did was remove books- using an anti-Christian Masoretic perspective as his “authentic” Guide to do so.
    And then the enter the Dead Sea Scrolls, and mess that all up.
    Septuagint rises in stature... from the dust.
  • Sunday Mass Sermon- The Heavenly City

    05/22/2022 3:33:43 PM PDT · 1 of 1
    MurphsLaw
    Who new city living could be paradise.
  • Speaking Of Schisms

    05/22/2022 9:33:03 AM PDT · 7 of 31
    MurphsLaw to OneVike; Texas_Guy
    I would add, and it's worth mentioning,

    That the very first schism involved an angel
    Whom we call, satan...

    diabolos...

  • Daily Mass Gospel Reflection- Spiritual Intimacy

    05/22/2022 9:02:41 AM PDT · 1 of 1
    MurphsLaw
    +++ Jesus said to his disciples:
    “Whoever loves me will keep my word,
    and my Father will love him,
    and we will come to him and make our dwelling with him.
    Whoever does not love me does not keep my words;
    yet the word you hear is not mine
    but that of the Father who sent me.

    “I have told you this while I am with you.
    The Advocate, the Holy Spirit,
    whom the Father will send in my name,
    will teach you everything
    and remind you of all that I told you.
    Peace I leave with you;
    my peace I give to you.

    Not as the world gives do I give it to you.
    Do not let your hearts be troubled
    or afraid.
    You heard me tell you,
    ‘I am going away and I will come
    back to you.’
    If you loved me,
    you would rejoice that I am going to the Father;
    for the Father is greater than I.
    And now I have told you this before
    it happens,
    so that when it happens you may believe.”+++

  • Marjorie Taylor Greene: I Was Raised Catholic, but Wicked Bishops Have ‘Driven Me Away’ from the Church

    05/21/2022 10:06:13 PM PDT · 608 of 681
    MurphsLaw to MHGinTN
    Listened to it today...
    Mondo is a cool... I like saying his name... mondo...

    Liked the Johnson video more...
    But question for you... serious - not trying to tick you off... as the DSS community writings are not Gospel anyway...
    This one dealt with more calendar/ time related issues...
    But is, or how much of, your pre-trib doctrine found in the DSS writings as related to calendar or year prophesy?

    Does the community writings use Malachi in a prophetic way?
  • Marjorie Taylor Greene: I Was Raised Catholic, but Wicked Bishops Have ‘Driven Me Away’ from the Church

    05/21/2022 9:50:15 PM PDT · 607 of 681
    MurphsLaw to MHGinTN
    Has it ever occurred to you that your claim of eating the soul and deity of Jesus does not work with your denial of our spiritual realm current existence? The flawed reasoning is scattered all through catholicism, like this error: you claim you can eat the soul and divinity -that is spirit, Murph- but are denying we are spiritual beings while we are in the physical body!

    No.
    But staying with the Garden Theme for a sec..
    There were TWO trees that God had in the heart of his Garden.
    They could eat from the one The Tree of Life- and never die.
    The fruit of that Tree had to be pretty awesomely divine, Given by God,
    to never die- and to live forever with Him...
    But then sin entered the world and the Tree of Life was lost to his creatures- and the Garden was then inaccessible to man.

    Fast forward to another Tree God gave us.
    Although this Tree would have his only begotten son, hung on it.
    And this Son would be sent into this world,, to be sacrificed for us,
    As so to take away the sin of the world.

    And the Fruit of THIS New Covenant Tree- when eaten -
    Will once again... Give us everlasting life.

    Plausible?

  • Marjorie Taylor Greene: I Was Raised Catholic, but Wicked Bishops Have ‘Driven Me Away’ from the Church

    05/21/2022 9:30:55 PM PDT · 605 of 681
    MurphsLaw to Seven_0
    Just checking...
    But is your position that had Adam and Eve
    NOT disobeyed God-
    They would have eventually been put out of the Garden anyway,
    and still have died just the same?
  • Marjorie Taylor Greene: I Was Raised Catholic, but Wicked Bishops Have ‘Driven Me Away’ from the Church

    05/21/2022 9:24:10 PM PDT · 604 of 681
    MurphsLaw to metmom
    Well, I'm sure my spirit is willing, somehwow...

    Though We are body and spirit...
    If you were just all spirit-
    God would have no need to be incarnate.

    " There is no good trying to be more spiritual than God. God never meant man to be a purely spiritual creature. That is why He uses material things like bread and wine to put the new life into us. We may think this rather crude and unspiritual. God does not: He invented eating. He likes matter. He invented it..."
    (CSL)

    As the adage goes...

    That which is saved,
    must be like that which saves...
  • Learning from the Early Church: It is necessary for us to undergo many hardships to enter the kingdom of God

    05/21/2022 9:05:28 PM PDT · 28 of 34
    MurphsLaw to Bob434
    Bob, Please.
    Stop with your false Gospel, false notion crapola.
    You didn't even read the essay... did you?
    Your mischaracterizing just to make a point- so you just fire away - without thinking. "+100... "We don't earn eternity..."
    Where did the post, or does it, say anything about "earning"?
    Pelagianism was a heresy that said one can "earn" Heaven- and the Church condemned it. The Church teaches we cannot earn Salvation.
    Ive told you that before - and you ignore me.
    So anytime you want to keep pushing a false position like that - you hopefully will hear from me.
    It's something I must do.
    And so you become foolish in your critique, which maybe we can avoid.
    This title of the post that scandalized you comes DIrectly from the Gospel- Acts... HOW CAN IT BE FALSE Gospel then?

    21 They preached the gospel in that city and won a large number of disciples. Then they returned to Lystra, Iconium and Antioch,
    22 strengthening the disciples and encouraging them to remain true to the faith. “We must go through many hardships to enter the kingdom of God,” they said.
    23 Paul and Barnabas appointed elders[a] for them in each church and, with prayer and fasting, committed them to the Lord, in whom they had put their trust.


    This was just after Paul almost got stoned to death.
    Read up on the martyrs and how they died for their Faith in Christ. Hardship? Yeah maybe a bit.

    You may think the path to eternal life is gonna be an easy one...
    but the minute you genuinely say "I Do" to Christ-your road to eternity will have plenty of hardship...
    If done right...
  • Daily Mass Gospel Reflection-Divine Protection

    05/21/2022 3:18:16 PM PDT · 3 of 5
    MurphsLaw to ebb tide
    HOW CLUELESS and self UNAWARE
    of an Anti- Catholic can you possibly be?

    You owe Not-Catholics an apology...

    You deceptively and covertly trash the Church 24/7 here on FR
    of which your deception is every bit worthy of being censored as a false flag;

    THEN you try to call out - an intelligent Bishop who has mucho success in his Evangelizing mission- who rightly wants to limit those usurping Church position to sow division within the Church;

    All the while you have personally engage in an UN-Christian smear campaign of this man-
    With NON-STOP attacks to CENSOR, AND CANCEL - THIS SAME BISHOP of the Church!!!

    THINK.
    Hypocritical Irony Alert...


    Too bad about pelosi, huh?
  • Daily Mass Gospel Reflection-Divine Protection

    05/21/2022 2:13:35 PM PDT · 1 of 5
    MurphsLaw
    +++Jesus said to his disciples:
    “If the world hates you, realize
    that it hated me first.
    If you belonged to the world, the
    world would love its own;
    but because you do not belong to the world,
    and I have chosen you out of the world,
    the world hates you.
    Remember the word I spoke to you,
    ‘No slave is greater than his master.’
    If they persecuted me, they will
    also persecute you.
    If they kept my word, they will also
    keep yours.
    And they will do all these things to
    you on account of my name,
    because they do not know the one who sent me.”+++

  • Denver Archbishop: Cordileone 'Made Every Attempt' to Avoid Barring Pelosi from Communion

    05/21/2022 8:16:14 AM PDT · 10 of 11
    MurphsLaw to MDLION
    Good Catch LION on that 3pm Firday timing...!!
    Ooof... thats gonna leave a mark!!

    It was A Good Friday for sure!

    (And boo to the naysayers who complained nothing was being said about a Pelosi at Communion- and so now complain that its... "too little, too late")
  • Learning from the Early Church: It is necessary for us to undergo many hardships to enter the kingdom of God

    05/21/2022 7:57:42 AM PDT · 22 of 34
    MurphsLaw to Bob434
    Thats NOT what the title says- it is NOT about Salvation- but undergoing hardships as a "believer"....

    At a minimum you're shark jumping then..

    Judging..? lol

    I was referring to 93 deg forecast high for today, in mid May...
  • Learning from the Early Church: It is necessary for us to undergo many hardships to enter the kingdom of God

    05/21/2022 6:49:32 AM PDT · 20 of 34
    MurphsLaw to Bob434
    Bob, The post is about enduring,
    You're straw-manning Pelagianism again....

    It's gonna be a hot day for sure...
  • Learning from the Early Church: It is necessary for us to undergo many hardships to enter the kingdom of God

    05/21/2022 6:24:00 AM PDT · 17 of 34
    MurphsLaw to Bob434
    +100- We don’t earn eternity in heaven by enduring hardships-

    Bob, we've talked about this...
    It states very, very clearly in your Bible...
    many ways how, and why, WE must actively and purposefully
    work at enduring to the end...
    and how thats the danger of following an OSAS perspective...

    Revelation 2:3 and you have perseverance and have endured for My name’s sake, and have not grown weary.

      Matthew 10:22 You will be hated by all because of My name, but it is the one who has endured to the end who will be saved.

    Matthew 24:13 But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved.

    Luke 21:19 By your endurance you will gain your lives

    Romans 15:4 For whatever was written in earlier times was written for our instruction, so that through perseverance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.

    1 Corinthians 10:13 No temptation has overtaken you but such as is common to man; and God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will provide the way of escape also, so that you will be able to endure it.

    Remember the warning Bob, 
    For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching,
    but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers
    to suit their own passions



  • Marjorie Taylor Greene: I Was Raised Catholic, but Wicked Bishops Have ‘Driven Me Away’ from the Church

    05/20/2022 10:16:03 PM PDT · 559 of 681
    MurphsLaw to SouthernClaire
    Did you give a nice tithe so that they’d have money to spend on nicer things for their future communions?

    I was only visiting... it was a one time deal.
    And I was practically a “none” at the time - I wasn’t giving any money or anything to any church then.
    And though it was a strange thing for me to take part in... it can be assumed that everyone in attendance was fine with this communion they did-
    I was only relating my perspective of a snack break.
  • Marjorie Taylor Greene: I Was Raised Catholic, but Wicked Bishops Have ‘Driven Me Away’ from the Church

    05/20/2022 10:05:12 PM PDT · 557 of 681
    MurphsLaw to Elsie

    Honor just your Mother then....

  • Marjorie Taylor Greene: I Was Raised Catholic, but Wicked Bishops Have ‘Driven Me Away’ from the Church

    05/20/2022 10:02:29 PM PDT · 556 of 681
    MurphsLaw to MHGinTN
    
What did Jesus do with the two who were on their way to Damascus? He opened for their understanding the written scriptures which were sufficient to detail Him and His coming. THAT would be the kind of Bible study mankind needs so profoundly now ... and it is written before there was even a New Testament of Him and His Body of Believers (established int he same fashion as He explained to Nicodemus in John 3 and the brass snake raised up in the desert). It is by belief that salvation is obtained, not by any works we may or may not do. Jesus told you that blasphemies against Him, against His sacrifice for you can be forgiven, but blasphemies against the Holy Spirit WILL NOT be forgiven.

    Man you’re all over the place here...but I still see the Catholic view more than yours. I think you begin by mentioning the 2 disciples on the road to Emmaus... Your take is suppositional .... and attaching “sufficient” to the story is conjecture. Their ears were burning because Jesus was using scripture to show how Christ had to be crucified as foretold in this scriptures. They were defeated, despondent- !ost- when Christ met up with them, and he brought them to “see” him in a celebrated manner- by revealing himself in the breaking of the bread. This is what the scriptures do as accompaniment to the Eucharist- which is what occurs at every Mass- the Liturgy of the Word that builds to the Celebratory nature of the Resurrected Christ- and his victory over death- the Form of every Mass.

    We’ve talked about this before.... there was no purpose for Jesus to stay with these disciples at Emmaus and then just disappear on them - UNLESS he was teaching them that HE was the climax the scripture always pointed to- revealing himself to them , finally, in the bread that they shared and consumed. They were blind to Christ until the Bread was consumed...
    The brass snake or serpent was the result of Moses interceding (yes, Moses was an intercessor) on behalf of the Israelites who wanted relief from the snakes that they brought God’s wrath upon themselves for rejecting the Divine Manna he sent them to eat in the Desert. (The basis for Paul’s warning to the Corinthians about approaching the Real divine presence in the Bread of Life of Christ.)
    So I don’t see how this 1st paragraph makes your position stronger.

    
And finally, our friend Elsie made a most profound posting when he noted for us all that the proof of Jesus using simile is displayed on the night in which Jesus was betrayed, when He in person took bread and broke it and gave it to His disciples saying this is my body about to be sacrificed for you. Elsie noted that there would be two bodies there if the bread was really the body of the Christ breaking the bread!

    Two NATURES, not two bodies...

    Yes indeed... indeed, as they murmured....”How can this man give us his flesh to eat?

    Unfortunately the disciples who would leave, were convinced by the Jews this was not possible.- EITHER literally- OR Symbolically... or what it signified...
    they still could not grasp the lesson of the Manna in the desert. Since they could not understand the union of Christ’s two separate natures.... all they saw was his flesh...

    It is the spirit that gives life, the flesh is of no avail; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.+++

    we receive all of Christ in the Eucharist- Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity... and that’s what Christ was configuring at the Last Supper. I can’t speculate on Scared Mystery. Here’s a better idea of what is going on there.

    The simplest way to express what Christ asks us to believe about the Real Presence is that the Eucharist is really He. The Real Presence is the real Jesus. We are to believe that the Eucharist began in the womb of the Virgin Mary; that the flesh which the Son of God received from His Mother at the Incarnation is the same flesh into which He changed bread at the Last Supper; that the blood He received from His Mother is the same blood into which He changed wine at the Last Supper. Had she not given Him His flesh and blood there could not be a Eucharist. We are to believe that the Eucharist is Jesus Christ - simply, without qualification.
    It is God become man in the fullness of His divine nature, in the fullness of His human nature, in the fullness of His body and soul, in the fullness of everything that makes Jesus Jesus. He is in the Eucharist with His human mind and will united with the Divinity, with His hands and feet, His face and features, with His eyes and lips and ears and nostrils, with His affections and emotions and, with emphasis, with His living, pulsating, physical Sacred Heart. That is what our Catholic Faith demands of us that we believe. If we believe this, we are Catholic. If we do not, we are not, no matter what people may think we are.
    Father John A. Hardon S.J.

    * In that profound realization it is plain that Jesus was using the bread to SIGNIFY His body and the wine to SIGNIFY His blood. Jesus further poured out the last cup of wine, calling it wine, the last cup in the Passover ritual. And He referred to it as wine and further told His disciples that He would not drink that cup of wine until He dioes it with them in His Father's Kingdom ... we will have passover celebration during the millennial reign of Chrst!

    You can’t isolate scripture like that out of context. Now look at these words and see how they square with your Last Supper “signify”

    +++ “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.+++

    Now if you choose to isolate that verse- what do you signify that to mean on its own?

    
That juxtaposition of time should be the biggest clue to you that the remembrance is not an actual sacrifice byu a ritual for remembering the power in the Blood of Jesus, power which redeems me nit by drinking His blood but by believing His blood is the power I must have to be redeemed and only He can Grace me with that blood in the spiritual realm, not at a Catholic altar, in the spiritual realm, God is Spirit and MUST BE worshiped in spirit and truth.

    The Blood from the Passover Lambs was always sprayed onto the Altar in the Temple. The Altar has always been central to Gods need of Sacrifice, being the main purpose of the Temple - Sacrifice.
    We are not spirits... we are not in a spiritual realm.... we are in the flesh until we die, until our Resurrected bodies are in Christ.

    We still have not got to an understanding about all the talk about blood- when Blood was so taboo as you had shown in the Penta. Why blood... why all this talk about boood when Scripture said- stay away?

  • Marjorie Taylor Greene: I Was Raised Catholic, but Wicked Bishops Have ‘Driven Me Away’ from the Church

    05/20/2022 10:57:57 AM PDT · 541 of 681
    MurphsLaw to Elsie
    Why would St. Paul confuse his converts in this way?

    That's a darned good question!!
    ,br> 2 Peter 3:16 niv He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.


    Hmmm... Scripture... Hard to Understand? Easy to distort?

    Free for all !!!

    After re-reading the 2nd most famous 3:16….
    I would hope
    You should realize you are making an argument AGAINST sola scriptura.