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Did Nick ever have a job? I’ve seen mention of multiple stints in rehab but no mention of any serious employment. That raises the question of how his drug habit was financed. Did it come from Daddy’s “allowance”? Was the murder provoked by the parents finally turning off the spigot?

Cut and paste any "assertions" I've made. The assertions are all yours. Assertion #1 was that the CIA was definitely not involved. Now you've back-tracked a little (wisely) and said ...."One does not need to assume a CIA conspiracy". There's a difference...a big one......between saying the CIA had no involvement (implying knowledge of what the CIA is/was doing) and saying one can propose a theory to explain what happened without invoking the CIA. That's true but that's not your actual position, is it?

My point (not an assertion), made in response to your dogmatic claim of CIA non-involvement, is simply this; "popular outrage" is often the seed for external meddling and interference. The two, in fact, go hand in hand, historically. One does not exclude the other. Exhibit A is the communist method of initiating revolution. Ergo, your claim of "popular outrage" in no way excludes the possibility of CIA involvement. Those who have an agenda and wish to see a particular outcome in a certain country, will see discontent as an opportunity to further the agenda.

So no sale for your claim that the CIA had nothing to do with the current situation.

You are the one making claims about what the CIA has been doing and not doing. Yet you have no idea, do you?

By the way, you have not disputed that this all started with the pressure that Russia put on Yanukovych to renege on the EU economic agreement. This is what started this whole mess.

Why should I "dispute it"? It's a false dichotomy. Discontent with a government is not mutually exclusive with Western involvement in fomenting color revolutions. The whole modus operandi of communist revolutionary action during the Cold War was to feed off poor living conditions, misery and discontent to initiate communist uprisings. The communists, like you here, told us that this was all "spontaneous" and there was no hidden agenda.

Oh please, stop that nonsense. You have no idea what the CIA has been up to.

EU + Britain = speech and thought police. The same folks who talk about “freedom” for Ukraine then arrest a woman for praying silently outside an abortuary.