Posted on 02/05/2009 7:52:01 PM PST by MindBender26
Obama Born In The U.S. ? New Facts Say; “Probably Not!”
Let me be the first to admit that I have been a constant debunker of the “Obama Born Overseas” stories. How could it be possible? How could the DNC, Hillary, Edwards, the RNC, McCain, Romney, AP, BBC, ABC, FNC, etc, (and every 100th listing in the DC phone book) not have checked this out to its last level of possibility?
Well, it appears that they didn’t! Everyone assumed “the other guy did it.”
Forget for the moment all the clues left by the high-priced Obama and DNC legal teams. They are huge.
Obama and the DNC always argue “standing.” They could eliminate every legal challenge in 5 minutes by simply producing a certified copy of the original long-form birth certificate. Throw in the testimony of the Hawaii Registrar of Documents, a few retired FBI chief document examiners, and the doctor who delivered him for good measure.
If they did that in two or three courts of record, in light of the obvious media coverage it would receive, every other court nationwide would accept the precedence and the cases would all be over.
But they don’t. They keep telling the courts, “please don’t hear this case.” No proof of any kind. Just the legalese argument that the plaintiffs have no standing before that court.
That’s so overreaching, it’s like buying a refinery to get a 3000 mile oil change! And one day, some court is going to say…. “Show me the money, er,. ah, I mean, Show me the documents!”
But there is a second, and perhaps new point!
Where is that doctor who delivered him, or the midwife?
Stop and think. The delivery of a half Negro – half Caucasian baby was rare anyhere in 1961. Oriental babies were common in Hawaii of course, but a half Negro-half Caucasian baby with the funny name of Barrack Obama, in Hawaii? In 1961?
Even of you were a Republican, if you delivered a future President of the United States, wouldn’t you call some newspaper somewhere with your story. Or if you were the assistant obstetrician, or the anesthesiologist, or the scrub nurse?
What about the circulating nurse, or the pediatrician, one of a dozen nurses on the 24 hour-a-day shifts in the nursery, one of many nurses on the ward where Mrs. Obama would have stayed for three days, a records registrar, a technician of any kind, hell, even the janitor!
What about the clerks, ambulance drivers….. somebody ?!?!?!
Anybody ?!?!?!
Wouldn’t someone have been yelling their “credit” for this from the rooftops???? The date when he was born is (supposedly) known. Certainly all these (supposed) people would know where they were working then!
Where is somebody, anybody, who was there or even remembers the birth?
Sherlock Holmes once solved a case by noticing the dog that DID NOT bark.
Is this the same situation?
Why Do I care?
Because 0bama is already a known liar, and there is definitely something that stinks about his birth.
Quoting some Washington Post’s journalist’s journalistic license as “fact” is beyond ridiculous.
Try some cold hard facts...
http://www.americanconservativedaily.com/2008/12/hawaiian-hospitals-obama-not-born-here/
See post #359. About late registration. According to the link, the baby was supposed to be born in HI but not registered until later, but who the heck would know. Just someone’s say-so.
What makes you think most people are like you?
"The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth program was established in 1911, during the territorial era, to register a person born in Hawaii who was one year old or older and whose birth had not been previously registered in Hawaii. The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth Program was terminated in 1972, during the statehood era."
The program is for people born in Hawaii, not for foreign born persons.
It is for people one year old or older. Obama's birth was registered within days.
It creates a "Certificate of Hawaiian Birth", not a "Certificate of Live Birth".
So how does this apply to Obama? Nothing here would indicate he could or did get his birth certificate through this program.
Then Paper Airplane Maker qualifies as a "profession?" :o)
Because foolish proclamations are the only reason for the obfuscators to be on these threads.
The first and most obvious division of the people is into aliens and natural-born subjects. Natural-born subjects are such as are born within the dominions of the crown of England, that is, within the ligeance, or as it is generally called, the allegiance of the king; and aliens, such as are born out of it.
FYI, he has, just like Obama did. McCain gave a copy of his long form to the media, and Obama the short form, but none of that is relevant.
It fact, I think it was at the Ohio State Annual Bar Association Dinner and Convocation in 1926 that he told another bright young man, bright just like you, “You don't have one half damned idea in Hell what the hell you are talking about,,, but, like the French, you pronounce your foolishness very well!”
The COLB is an official Hawaiian birth certificate. It carries the same legal weight as the original record.
"Backers of the idea that Mr. Obama isn't a natural-born citizen say Mr. Obama's certification of live birth doesn't quell the issue. They say a certification can be obtained after birth.""But the Hawaii State Department of Health said Monday that there is no difference between a certificate and a certification of live birth in the eyes of the state. For instance, either can be used to confirm U.S. citizenship to obtain a passport or state ID, said Alvin Onaka, a research and statistics officer at the Department of Health."
THE WASHINGTON TIMES Thursday, August 28, 2008
"The COLB has been widely discredited as a fraud by some."
No. Some guy on the internet says it is forged. That analysis is amateurish nonsense which has not been validated by any real expert.
"Does the COLB reflect the actual place of BIRTH or the place of REGISTRATION?"
The COLB clearly says place of birth. There is absolutely no reason to assume that the state of Hawaii would lie about it.
"The only definitive, authentic, document is the one that 0bama refuses to show."
In fact, as stated above, the COLB is definitive and authentic.
Thus Alliegiance is the standard, so parentage citizenship is the deciding factor.
Doctor Rodgers delivered me. I'm sure he is long gone too. But I remember him well, he was a Scot with a very educated Edinburgh accent.
Now gee, what did his aunt and his grandmother say..?
That he was born in a hospital in... Kenya.
Well, duh. Hospitals don't keep records for 48 years
I also find your website to be rather funny in that it fails to say who claimed Obama was born in Queen's Medical Center, or to provide any substantiation of that claim.
As far as I can tell, Obama has consistently said Kapiolani was his birthplace. If you have evidence to the contrary, please do provide it.
It would be great if you were to remove your head from your rectal cavity, so that you could stuff your irrelevant nonsense up there.
Was he your family doctor? If so, he probably got a lot of reinforcement. If the doctor hadn’t seen you since, it would be much harder for him to remember you.
That he was born in Hawaii.
That he was born in a hospital in... Kenya.
Another one of those "facts" made up by 9-11 truthers.
Why don’t the Kenyan relatives produce his Kenyan birth certificate if there is one?
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