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Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)
Israel Insider ^ | 3 July 2008 | Reuven Koret

Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom

Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.

The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.

The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.

Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.

McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.

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To: DrC

>>>vital records are much simpler and in Hawaii’s case appear to have been digitized long ago.

I think they are still new to the digitalization. Hawaii mistakeningly forwarded a database of marijuana users to the local paper back in June.

Which is why I doubt they have all their archives transferred to digital format. That is usually done last, once the current patient files are up and running.


4,581 posted on 08/09/2008 10:43:42 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: DrC
I think you fundamentally misunderstand who was angry with whom: “Stanley Ann’s prospective father-in-law was furious. He wrote the Dunhams “this long, nasty letter saying that he didn’t approve of the marriage,” Obama recounted his mother telling him in “Dreams.” “He didn’t want the Obama blood sullied by a white woman.” http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-0703270151mar27,0,1310554.story?page=3

In light of the foregoing, your account of them leaving Hawaii to face the wrath of Senior’s father in Africa makes no sense.

Ummmmm, wrong. Besides blacks being incapable of racism (does that really need a < /sarc> tag?) it is in direct conflict with what his Kenyan relatives say:

"The marriage later broke up after Anna's father opposed it, according to Mama Sarah.

"Anna's father was furious about the marriage and threatened to have Obama Snr expelled from the university. Our son sent us letters, pleading that we intervene to save the marriage," remembers Sarah."

Source here

If link doesn't work cut and paste http://allafrica.com/stories/200408160533.html?page=2

4,582 posted on 08/09/2008 11:33:05 AM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: bvw

Like the music, but what does it have to do with anything?


4,583 posted on 08/09/2008 11:52:48 AM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: All

Gateway Pundit has picked up on the Rocky Mountain News tidbit about Kenyan citizenship. He also links to a report from 2007 which says this:

ANNOUNCEMENT OF BLOCKBUSTER CHICAGO NEWS CONFERENCE DISCLOSING THAT UNDER KENYAN CONSTITUTIONAL LAW, BARACK OBAMA IS A KENYAN CITIZEN:

(CHICAGO)(February 8, 2007) Chicago-based Internet journalist, broadcaster and critic Andy Martin will hold a news conference Friday, February 9th at 11:00 A.M. to announce that U. S. Senator Barack Obama is a citizen of Kenya and became a citizen of Kenya under the Independence Constitution of Kenya in 1963. Obama has never renounced his Kenyan citizenship. He is also a U. S. Citizen.

http://www.politicalgateway.com/main/columns/read.html?col=731

There’s more to this a GP.

This is from that guy Andy Martin and is dated right back to the time Obama announced his candidancy. He indicates that there is more to the story that will be revealed. Did he ever do this? I checked his site ContrarianCommentary.com and there are no archives for Feb. 2007. At the link I’ve provided there is his email address. Should we contact him and ask him questions about this? Also could this be the source of the Rocky article?


4,584 posted on 08/09/2008 12:01:50 PM PDT by Albertafriend
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To: OldEagle
So I doubt that they were married.

According to Michelle Obama, "His (Obama's) own mother was very young and very single when she had him."
4,585 posted on 08/09/2008 12:13:44 PM PDT by Beckwith ('Typical White Person')
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To: Calpernia

“I doubt they have all their archives transferred to digital format.”

I’m not claiming every field in every birth certificate has been digitized, but their process for generating COLBs clearly is drawing from a digitized database, as opposed to having a clerk pull an original, signed certificate from a file, and either photocopy or transcribe the info in order to fill requests for COLBs etc., which I assume was the approach used decades ago. So if anyone searches for a particular name, certificate number and/or especially if they print a copy, “the system” I would think would have some means of keeping track of this.


4,586 posted on 08/09/2008 12:17:07 PM PDT by DrC
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To: DrC
as opposed to having a clerk pull an original, signed certificate from a file, and either photocopy or transcribe the info in order to fill requests for COLBs etc., which I assume was the approach used decades ago.

Still is here. The certified copy of mine I got last month (or was it the month before?) is a photocopy/print of the microfilm more-or-less centered on the modern high security paper form.

4,587 posted on 08/09/2008 12:25:16 PM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: Albertafriend; David; potlatch; devolve; Rushmore Rocks; FARS; Jeff Head; MeekOneGOP; Lady Jag; ...
Ping to #4,584

According to the Rocky Mountain News, Obama holds both American and Kenyan (since 1963) citizenship.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/aug/06/things-you-might-not-know-about-barack-obama/

4,588 posted on 08/09/2008 12:27:16 PM PDT by LucyT (What happens in Denver....is anyone's guess....August 25 - 28, 2008)
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To: null and void

OK, who are we to believe? Obama himself or his step-grandmother? Maybe both dads were furious for different reasons. Or maybe each side of the story has painted in the most favorable light.

Regardless of whether both, neither, or only one of the accounts is true, notice that Sarah alludes to LETTERS from Senior pleading for help. She in no way says Senior fled with his new wife to Africa to seek refuge from the wrath of Ann’s father about the marriage.

Thus, I view this account as indirect confirmatory evidence that Senior must have been in Hawaii—not Africa—during the period Feb. through July 1961. Once Ann’s pregnancy became obvious (it’s not clear when either set of parents were made aware of this), any concerns about marriage presumably were displaced by much more immediate and practical concerns.


4,589 posted on 08/09/2008 12:31:20 PM PDT by DrC
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To: LucyT
According to the Rocky Mountain News, Obama holds both American and Kenyan (since 1963) citizenship.

Kenya does not recognize dual citizenship. Plus, by the Kenyan constitution, his Kenyan citizenship would be valid only if he's renounced his US citizenship...which nobody, to my knowledge, is claiming he has done.

4,590 posted on 08/09/2008 12:39:58 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: LucyT

And the reason they say “since 1963” is that is the year of Kenyan independence, whereby his father’s Kenyan birth could convey Kenyan citizenship upon him (see the Kenyan constitution). It doesn’t mean he was born there.


4,591 posted on 08/09/2008 12:42:00 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: LucyT; All; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; 1035rep; 1curiousmind; 4woodenboats; 2ndDivisionVet; 5Madman2; ...

SIDEBAR: our possible future with an Obama Marxist-Islamist presidency.

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2008/08/britains-new-name-islamistan.html


4,592 posted on 08/09/2008 12:42:44 PM PDT by FARS
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To: Albertafriend
97. Dual citizenship
  1. A person who, upon the attainment of the age of twenty-one years, is a citizen of Kenya and also a citizen of some country other than Kenya shall, subject to subsection (7), cease to be a citizen of Kenya upon the specified date unless he has renounced his citizenship of that other country, taken the oath of allegiance and, in the case of a person who was born outside Kenya, made and registered such declaration of his intentions concerning residence as may be prescribed by or under an Act of Parliament.
  2. * A person who
    1. has attained the age of twenty-one years before 12th December, 1963; and
    2. becomes a citizen of Kenya on that day by virtue of section 87; and
    3. is immediately after that day also a citizen of some country other than Kenya.
    shall subiect to subsection (7), cease to be a citizen of Kenya upon the specified date unless he has renounced his citizenship of that other country. taken the oath of allegiance and. in the case of a person who is a citizen of Kenya by virtue of section 87 (2), made and registered such decIaration of his intentions concerning residence as may be prescribed by or under an Act of Parliament.
  3. A citizen of Kcnya shall, subject to subsection (7). cease to be such a citizen if-
    1. having attained the age of twenty-one years, he acquires the citizenship of some country other than Kenya by voluntary act (other than marriage); or
    2. having attained the age of twenty-one years. hc otherwise acquires the dtizenship of some country other than Kenya and has not. by the specified date. renounced his citizenship of that other country, taken the oath of allegiance and made and registered such declaration of his intentions concerning residence as may be prescribed by or under an Act of Parliament.

4,593 posted on 08/09/2008 12:49:08 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: LucyT
See #4593...from the Kenyan Constitution.
4,594 posted on 08/09/2008 12:50:31 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: LucyT; FARS

Waitin’ for Hitlery to drop ‘da bomb...


4,595 posted on 08/09/2008 1:00:16 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: DrC; David; Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer); Canadian Outrage
Thus, I view this account as indirect confirmatory evidence that Senior must have been in Hawaii—not Africa—

ALMOST Bingo.

It indicates he wasn't in Kenya, but it doesn't demonstrate he was in Hawaii, either

It's interesting that this article dates back to when Obama was running for senator.

Since foreign birth does not impact one's ability to be a senator, there was no compelling reason to lie about his being born locally.

ASSUMING the allafrica.com archives haven't been altered, this is very strong evidence that we can put the out-of-Africa theory to rest.

Still doesn't rule out Canadian birth (Birth in Kenya or Canada would mean he would be a British subject, like his father). A Canadian birth would cover why the first reported itty-bitty baby Barak sighting was in Mercer Island, WA, and how that could be so soon after his birth that Susan Blake felt compelled to show Stanley Ann how to change a diaper.

Still, if there isn't a fatal flaw in his background, why take the legal and political risks of publishing such a poor copy of his BC?

4,596 posted on 08/09/2008 1:01:09 PM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


4,597 posted on 08/09/2008 1:02:27 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Gondring

Irrelevant.

In the first place, we are operating under US laws and the US constitution.

In the second place, we don’t know that Barak was born in Kenya (or anywhere else for that matter!)


4,598 posted on 08/09/2008 1:04:38 PM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: null and void

90,957 hits on this thread so far...


4,599 posted on 08/09/2008 1:10:37 PM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: null and void

Follow the thread back...you’ve been here long enough to know how. ;-)

But if you don’t care to do so, your post is redundant, since it simply confirms the point of my post. I was pointing out that the claim of dual citizenship was not possible, and that even Kenyan citizenship doesn’t necessarily indicate a Kenyan birth.


4,600 posted on 08/09/2008 1:13:30 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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