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Live Thread: Ben Barnes and CBS Attempt Another Bush Smear (60 Minutes)
www.freerepublic.com | September 8, 2004

Posted on 09/08/2004 4:39:18 PM PDT by Howlin

Have at him!


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To: jhouston

I was also stationed at Ellington in the mid 60's after serving at Buckly in Denver after serving in Iowa. I missed so many meetings it was like a joke. When I was doing my yearly two weeks active duty I told my leader my wife was due any time. He said go home and don't come back till she delivers. Record keeping not good and I never had anyone looking for me.


321 posted on 09/08/2004 6:55:02 PM PDT by Mr Cobol (Berry AuH2O464 and conservative ever since!)
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To: Captain Peter Blood
"I think we need to see all those so called memos and I want to know exactly where they came from. "

I'd like to see the whole Killian collection to see how many other memos he wrote on other Guardsmen, how many other orders for physicals he sent out and how many other suspensions from flying he ordered. I'm sure there's more than just Bush's in that file collection.

The quotes used by CBS were only partial, so we have no idea in what context they were used in the memos. They were probably edited by CBS to get the most effect for the point they wanted to present.

322 posted on 09/08/2004 6:56:46 PM PDT by mass55th ( “Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings.”)
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To: mass55th

Two F-l02's with all the pilots coming back from Nam were not enough not to mention the F-102 was getting sent to the boneyard and being taken out of the inventory. As a member of the Guard, he could say he wouldn't want to transition to a new plane and he would be off flying status and the need for a flying physical was mute.


323 posted on 09/08/2004 6:57:01 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Oklahoma is Reagan Country and now Bush Country -- Kerry is DOOMED!)
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To: need_a_screen_name

Funny screen name! *L*


324 posted on 09/08/2004 6:58:53 PM PDT by AZamericonnie (need_a_tagline)
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To: Howlin

He's not doing enough, making the same mistakes his Father made during Andrew with aid coming to slow, showed one angry woman yelling, "where's the calvary".
Are you kidding?????


Not Kidding. He used the Hurricane to attack Bush in a few different ways. If I was a non-informed voter and I saw that story I would think Bush does not care for the people of Florida and was provideing aid way to slow, and he was just there to get on camera.


325 posted on 09/08/2004 6:58:54 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: DoughtyOne
I tend to doubt any national guard pilots served in Vietnam, but you never know where you might wind up should hostilities break out.

I thought I read somewhere recently that there were pilots from the President's ANG group who WERE sent to Vietnam.

326 posted on 09/08/2004 6:59:15 PM PDT by SuziQ (Bush in 2004-Because we MUST!!!)
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To: bitt

"It's not just the newly discovered memos causing trouble. There are new questions as to why, when he moved to Massachusetts to attend Harvard Business School, Mr. Bush did not sign up with a reserve unit there, as he promised in a letter when he left the Texas National Guard".

This was debunked by the White House today, citing Military records already in the hands of the media, proving that the President received legitimate early release to attend graduate school. The fact that the media had these records for sometime, and ignored them in their research, proves this is nothing but BULL$HIT!

It also proves that the rest of the story carries the same stench of LIES!

LLS


327 posted on 09/08/2004 6:59:33 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Continued Job creation will not matter, if kerry "Outsources" our National Defense!)
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To: All
Check out this on the MRC if you've not done so already.

60 Minutes Tonight to Air 4th Anti-Bush Hit Job So Far This Year

328 posted on 09/08/2004 6:59:59 PM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge (A proud member of the self-preservation society)
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To: Dog

".....and insist....NO DEMAND they ask Kerry to file a FORM 180."

I am so sick of the MSM BS ..

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329 posted on 09/08/2004 7:00:47 PM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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To: BamaDi
who is ben barnes? a texas jacka$$! and a lying one at that! when you got lloyd bentsen's son saying he's a liar, then his credibility dried up and went away!

It's even worse than that. Few people outside of Texas know why Ben Barnes got the boot from office. They kicked him out because he was an unindicted coconspirator in the Sharpstown Stock Scandal - basically a huge financial scandal involving kickbacks and bribes where the Governor, Speaker of the House, and Lt. Governor (Barnes) ramrodded a banking bill favor through the legislature for businessman Frank Sharp, who then lined their pockets with a huge loan to buy his own company's stock, which in turn served as colateral for the loan. This artificially drove up the value of Sharps' stock until they bilked it off at inflated prices onto the endowment of a private high school in Houston then took the money and ran, leaving now worthless stock behind. Barnes essentially got the boot because he helped a crony businessman cheat a bunch of kids out of their education money.

330 posted on 09/08/2004 7:01:29 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist ("Can Lincoln expect to subjugate a people thus resolved? No!" - Sam Houston, 3/1863)
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To: Howlin; watsonfellow
Absolutely not; nor did they mention that he said he got Lloyd Benson's son into the Guard, too, a claim that Benson has vehemently denied.

They did mention that he is a big Kerry supporter. They did not mention Benston...when Barnes said that he helped many people get into the Guard, a REAL journalist would have asked who else......Blather did not ask.

331 posted on 09/08/2004 7:02:34 PM PDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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To: Barlowmaker

thanks....i praying for andre


332 posted on 09/08/2004 7:02:56 PM PDT by BamaDi
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To: GOPcapitalist

i didn't move to houston until 1993 but this guy is notorious for being a crook....then first he says the bush family didn't asked for help with the ANG and then, now that he's prominent with the skerry campaign, says they did....this guy has no credibility...


333 posted on 09/08/2004 7:05:03 PM PDT by BamaDi
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To: Darkwolf377
Did this guy say he got Bush into the NG while he was Lt. Gov?

No...now they are claiming that it was when he was Speaker of the TX House.

334 posted on 09/08/2004 7:05:22 PM PDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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To: A Citizen Reporter
I found this while Googling around. I'll bet they started sifting through Killian's files to see what they could find months ago.

I am not one who thinks they faked documents. However, I have seen the media time and again misrepresent and distort the contents of documents:

New Evidence Supports Bush Military Service (Mostly)

February 2004

excerpt:

The Boston Globe reported Feb. 12 that Bush’s suspension from flight duty while he was in Alabama “should have prompted an investigation by his commander” in Houston under Air Force regulations in effect at the time. The Globe also said “It is unclear whether Bush's commander, Lieutenant Colonel Jerry B. Killian, ordered any inquiry, as required.” Killian is deceased.

~snip~

335 posted on 09/08/2004 7:05:55 PM PDT by cyncooper (We're mad as Zell and we're not going to take it anymore!)
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To: Mo1
Something doesn't smell right

It never does when a rat is involved, and Rather is a rat by no other name. The first President Bush nailed him in an interview in 1988, and it has been pay back time ever since.(by the way it was a sight to behold)

336 posted on 09/08/2004 7:06:36 PM PDT by woodyinscc
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To: Howlin
The lunatic fringe we call the mainstream media dismissed the Swift Boat Vet's as partisan hacks and used the Navy records as evidence of Kerry's heroism. Now they offer a partisan hack liar and a dead man's personal notes as the truth of Bush's service?

Here is what really matters, John Kerry met with Communists and lied to the Senate of the United States. The real question, in my mind, is can these issues make it to the national debate and how much of a pass will the country give Kerry on his post-war activities because he actually was in Viet Nam.
337 posted on 09/08/2004 7:07:24 PM PDT by Dolphy (Support swiftvets.com)
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To: Howlin
"Essentially, Bush gamed the system to avoid serving his country the way that most of his contemporaries had to."

"most of his contemporaries? MOST men of sevice age at that time DID NOT enter the service . Of those of us who did, MOST of us did NOT go to Vietnam.

--US Army, 3rd Med Bn, 3rd ID 1971-1973

338 posted on 09/08/2004 7:08:02 PM PDT by cookcounty (The NY TIMES: "All the 'Sissy News' That's Unfit to Print")
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To: pacocat
What it leaves you wondering is why a commanding officer would take and leave personal notes on a Guardsman. I would ask Killian, if he was alive "Why would you take home personal memos like that?" The inference is not good.

Where did Dan say these memos were found?

339 posted on 09/08/2004 7:08:50 PM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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To: WashStateGirl

Vietnam Veterans are accusing Kerry of legal TREASON over on Hannity and Coomes on FOX news right now, tee hee

What did they say on H&C? How did Colmes react?


340 posted on 09/08/2004 7:09:00 PM PDT by hansel
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