Live Thread: Ben Barnes and CBS Attempt Another Bush Smear (60 Minutes)

www.freerepublic.com | September 8, 2004

[Howlin]

Have at him!

[Howlin]

Did you type that from the book???

If so, thanks a lot.

I love that woman.

[Mo1]

Barnes equates going into the National Guard with running away to Canada to escape the draft. I'm done!

Ummm didn't Kerry get in trouble for insulting the NG service ?

[mass55th]

"Did Bush sign one?"

I read that the reason the Globe was able to file suit for any remaining records was because Bush had previously signed Form 180.

Here's a link to NARA's page on FOIA & The Privacy Act as it pertains to military records.

There is no way that the Globe could successfully sue for Bush's records. If that was the case, I'd sue the government to get access to my dead uncle's records. I'm not allowed to see them because I'm not his widow, sister or daughter. If one could sue to view anybody's military records, the Swift Boat Vets, which is comprised of several lawyers, would have done it to get to Kerry's files.

I'm still not exactly sure how the Globe actually sued for the other files, seeing as the FOIA and The Privacy Act clearly state that nothing will be released unless it is approved by the individual. The process they used or how they went about it seems to be a big secret with them. But since they were able to access these newly discovered records, I'd say that Bush didn't fight it because he had signed Form 180. And if he didn't fight it, he wasn't afraid of anything damaging in them.

[jhouston]

I was in the AF Reserve in 72 stationed at Ellington AFB (same as Bush). I was a personal clerk and was responsible for cutting numerous orders (mostly TDA, short term activations and reassignments).

I cannot speak for procedures at the TANG, but I assume they followed the same procedures that we did.

All of the memos showed a centered TYPED heading instead of being typed on letterhead (yes we used letterhead or standardized forms back then).

ALL order were typed on a standardized form.

As a personel clerk I spent a good deal of my time re-assigning people for temporary duty so they could make up missed meetings. It was VERY common for us to miss meetings for various reasons.

Our C130 guys were called up for an airlift operation just as I was getting off my initial 6 months of active duty. My seargent asked me to stay an extra week to help prepare orders. He said they couldn't pay me for it but he would allow me to miss my first 3 months of meetings. This was VERY common. I missed most of my last 3 years of meetings (being in personel had it's benefits).

[BamaDi]

i didn't watch 60 minutes but you're exactly right about the signature blocks....goodness, i should know, i was a secretary for the DAF from 1969 to 1991 when i left the pentagon to work for the navy and the signature block was ALWAYS on the left hand margin....I HATE CBS!

[Howlin]

Hannity just said he did.

[GOPcapitalist]

Did you or anybody tape the Rather clip? I don't have VCR access right now so I couldn't make one. I want a transcript of everything he said though to deconstruct its lies - esp. the stuff by Barnes. Ben Barnes is a cancer upon my state and has been for the last 40 years. It's time to squash the cockroach once and for all.

[NavyCanDo]

GOOD LORD! Now I remember why we blocked CBS from our Direct TV. Dan Rather on the news did nothing but attack. Bush. The first 20 minutes were nothing but attacks. Except for a short update on how Clinton is pulling through beyond everyones expectations.

Attack Stories were:
• Bush's National Guard record. (first story)
• Campaign trail shots of Kerry trashing Bush.
• Hurricane damage in FL, Yes he attacked Bush on it to. He's not doing enough, making the same mistakes his Father made during Andrew with aid coming to slow, showed one angry woman yelling, "where's the calvary".
• 1000 dead in Iraq, They showed the same anti-war Mother they always drag out who's Son has been killed, and she wore a shirt saying, "President Bush killed my Son".

That's all I could take. Back to FNC.

[Victoria]

No I just copied it from the internet, but I did read it first in her book. I love her too. She tells it like it is.

Notice she said George is very forgiving, I think GW takes after his dad more than mom.

CBS and Rather sure have a history of attacking the Bush family.

[altura]

Oh, my gosh.

Is that him? Boy has he aged badly. I remember when he was the Dem's golden boy here in Texas.

Turned out to be fool's gold, but he was nice looking back in the day.

[Mo1]

Don't you like the way all these "new papers" come from a dead man?

The guy is no longer alive???

Papers just showed up after all these years??

Something doesn't smell right

[mass55th]

"and there were not enough planes to go around so if you were not transitioning, you were removed from flying status. "

Didn't the Globe story today say that Bush's ANG unit had only two F-102's left? If so, that doesn't sound like enough to go around for all the guys who were trained to only fly that specific plane.

[BamaDi]

I KNOW THIS IS NOT THAT SUBJECT BUT I'M SITTING HERE (oops didn't mean to use caps) listening to that jacka$$ colmes trying to justify skerry and trashing W. i'm discussed....then on top of it i was over at a friend's house for dinner and her idiot daughter (who had probably never voted in her life) was trashing W and it gave me great satisfaction to chop her off at the knees.....ain't life grand!

[Howlin]

He's not doing enough, making the same mistakes his Father made during Andrew with aid coming to slow, showed one angry woman yelling, "where's the calvary".

Are you kidding?????

[Dog]

Here is what we need to do....tomorrow morning we need to call CBSNBCABCCNNCNBCMSNBC and every liberal media outlet we can think of.....and insist....NO DEMAND they ask Kerry to file a FORM 180.

[BamaDi]

who is ben barnes? a texas jacka$$! and a lying one at that! when you got lloyd bentsen's son saying he's a liar, then his credibility dried up and went away!

[Barlowmaker]

They just went into a rain delay with Federer up two sets to one and Andre serving in the first game of the fourth set.

[CedarDave]

Apparently the Rats have attached a Democratic pop-up to the Swift Boats site that has a donation form that goes to the DNC!!!

BE AWARE OF WHO YOU ARE DONATING TO!!

BEWARE of SCAM- money to DNC thinking I was donating to Swift Boat Veterans

[Mo1]

Can we get a copy of those memos?

Is CBS going to release them to the public?

[CedarDave]

Sent Brit my first ever e-mail with a copy of a FReeper analysis regarding the Bush AWOL smears. Will not see the program until later -- hope Brit handed their heads to them.