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London - Red hair may be the genetic legacy of Neanderthals...
Planet Save.com ^ | 1/14/05 | Planet Save.com

Posted on 01/16/2005 12:47:07 PM PST by IGBT

London - Red hair may be the genetic legacy of Neanderthals, according to a new study by British scientists.

Researchers at the John Radcliffe Institute of Molecular Medicine in Oxford were quoted by The Times as saying the so-called "ginger gene" which gives people red hair, fair skin and freckles could be up to 100 000 years old.

They claim that their discovery points to the gene having originated in Neanderthal man who lived in Europe for 200 000 years before Homo sapien settlers, the ancestors of modern man, arrived from Africa about 40 000 years ago.

Rosalind Harding, the research team leader, told The Times: "The gene is certainly older than 50 000 years and it could be as old as 100 000 years.

"An explanation is that it comes from Neanderthals." It is estimated that at least 10 percent of Scots have red hair and a further 40 percent carry the gene responsible, which could account for their once fearsome reputation as fighters.

Neanderthals have been characterised as migrant hunters and violent cannibals who probably ate most of their meat raw. They were taller and stockier than Homo sapiens, but with shorter limbs, bigger faces and noses, receding chins and low foreheads.

The two species overlapped for a period of time and the Oxford research appears to suggests that they must have successfully interbred for the "ginger gene" to survive. Neanderthals became extinct about 28 000 years ago, the last dying out in southern Spain and southwest France. - Sapa-DPA


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To: blam
"Exactly what I was thinking. I love red hair!" I Love redheads myself
181 posted on 01/16/2005 7:05:09 PM PST by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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To: Charlespg

neanderthals may have had red hair, but most experts beleive they were a different species and unable to interbreed with modern humans.


182 posted on 01/16/2005 7:09:03 PM PST by avitot
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To: Charlespg

neanderthals may have had red hair, but most experts beleive they were a different species and unable to interbreed with modern humans.


183 posted on 01/16/2005 7:09:03 PM PST by avitot
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To: avitot

never heard that before


184 posted on 01/16/2005 7:16:03 PM PST by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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To: TheLionessRN
Where are all the redheaded men out there? I know there have to be famous handsome men with red hair but I can't think of any.

Genghis Khan.

185 posted on 01/16/2005 7:24:39 PM PST by judywillow
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To: Charlespg
>never heard that before

I have. DNA studies pretty much indicated that the neanderthal was a glorified chimpanzee.

186 posted on 01/16/2005 7:28:44 PM PST by judywillow
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To: Red Sea Swimmer; blam

LOL!


187 posted on 01/16/2005 7:31:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on January 13, 2005)
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To: ValerieUSA

['Civ immediately checks his mail]


188 posted on 01/16/2005 7:37:51 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on January 13, 2005)
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To: Red Sea Swimmer
I must have met the cute cousins of the species on my visit to Van Diemens Land.

There could also be a difference in taste or view or mood.

As a rule I like marsupials but the Devil has such a screech I can't stand it. Watching and listening to them fight over food is memorable.

189 posted on 01/16/2005 7:44:04 PM PST by Lady Jag (All I want is a kind word, a warm bed, and unlimited power)
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To: BenLurkin
Oh yeah? Now that you've told us THAT choice tidbit, we own you. ;')
No soup for you!

190 posted on 01/16/2005 7:44:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on January 13, 2005)
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To: ORECON
Studies have shown that redheads feel 20% more pain and need 20% more anesthetic.

My doctor gave me the whole rundown on redhead peculiarities. I have pretty much all of them.
191 posted on 01/16/2005 7:45:23 PM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (There are 2 types of people in this world: those who like Neil Diamond and those who don't.)
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To: Lady Jag
Is that your helmet?

I'm not sure what you're refering to.

192 posted on 01/16/2005 7:49:03 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Have sliderule, will calculate.)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

"Studies have shown that redheads feel 20% more pain and need 20% more anesthetic."

It has been my experience as a nurse and as a patient that redheads don't have good veins for IVs. Aren't we just so speshul?


193 posted on 01/16/2005 7:55:32 PM PST by TheLionessRN
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To: Professional Engineer

On your head with the sword.


194 posted on 01/16/2005 7:56:25 PM PST by Lady Jag (All I want is a kind word, a warm bed, and unlimited power)
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To: ValerieUSA

I'm not positive, but I think this one was the first FR topic you ever emailed to me:

Redheads 'are neanderthal'
Culture/Society News
Source: Times UK
Posted on 04/17/2001 07:38:43 PDT by sirgawain
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3adc5573604d.htm

Could be wrong. Now, I regard Neandertal ancestry as a given for most European descent folks, but you expressed dismay. Lucky for you that...

Gene for Red Hair May Help Suppress Pain in Women
Reuters via Yahoo ^ | March 24, 2003 | Linda Carroll
Posted on 03/25/2003 5:57:32 AM PST by Pharmboy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/874932/posts


195 posted on 01/16/2005 7:57:05 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on January 13, 2005)
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To: Lady Jag

ROFL That's another boat hanging on the wall.


196 posted on 01/16/2005 8:01:15 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Have sliderule, will calculate.)
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To: judywillow
Looks like you’re right… Google Search results
197 posted on 01/16/2005 8:11:53 PM PST by elfman2
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To: Alkhin

Wiltshire is in the southwest of England and was the site of battles between the Anglo-Saxons and the Britons and between the English and the Vikings. English of North German and Danish heritage can be found here but so can other populations. The further East you go in England, the more likely the Nordic type will dominate. East Anglia, Yorkshire, and the Midlands are more likely to have the English types you picture.


198 posted on 01/16/2005 8:18:25 PM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Professional Engineer
ROFL That's another boat hanging on the wall.

I knew that. I just thought it made a nifty helmet in that picture.

I've been meaning to talk to you about all those boats. How far do you plan to go with this?

199 posted on 01/16/2005 8:33:18 PM PST by Lady Jag (All I want is a kind word, a warm bed, and unlimited power)
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To: SunkenCiv

Oops --- I fell asleep at the wheel. No showing off by me when I'm snoozing.
http://images8.fotki.com/v148/photos/3/34603/664064/face-vi.jpg


200 posted on 01/16/2005 8:35:13 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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