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London - Red hair may be the genetic legacy of Neanderthals...
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Posted on 01/16/2005 12:47:07 PM PST by IGBT

London - Red hair may be the genetic legacy of Neanderthals, according to a new study by British scientists.

Researchers at the John Radcliffe Institute of Molecular Medicine in Oxford were quoted by The Times as saying the so-called "ginger gene" which gives people red hair, fair skin and freckles could be up to 100 000 years old.

They claim that their discovery points to the gene having originated in Neanderthal man who lived in Europe for 200 000 years before Homo sapien settlers, the ancestors of modern man, arrived from Africa about 40 000 years ago.

Rosalind Harding, the research team leader, told The Times: "The gene is certainly older than 50 000 years and it could be as old as 100 000 years.

"An explanation is that it comes from Neanderthals." It is estimated that at least 10 percent of Scots have red hair and a further 40 percent carry the gene responsible, which could account for their once fearsome reputation as fighters.

Neanderthals have been characterised as migrant hunters and violent cannibals who probably ate most of their meat raw. They were taller and stockier than Homo sapiens, but with shorter limbs, bigger faces and noses, receding chins and low foreheads.

The two species overlapped for a period of time and the Oxford research appears to suggests that they must have successfully interbred for the "ginger gene" to survive. Neanderthals became extinct about 28 000 years ago, the last dying out in southern Spain and southwest France. - Sapa-DPA


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To: Floyd R Turbo

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1322131/posts was just recently posted. I think we have part of the answer of where those "millions of Celts" got the energy to just "pop up".


161 posted on 01/16/2005 5:57:08 PM PST by muawiyah (Egypt didn't invent civilization time)
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To: blam

My Mother is Black Irish, Ulster, looks Italian or Spanish, with out the nose, but with the temper. My Grandmother thought she was a throw back. All of my Irish relatives are dark haired or Blonds, with blue eyes and have that Raw Boned Northern Irish look.


162 posted on 01/16/2005 6:00:09 PM PST by Little Bill (A 37%'r, a Red Spot on a Blue State)
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To: IGBT

163 posted on 01/16/2005 6:01:39 PM PST by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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To: UnklGene
Danny Kaye was a red-haired Russian Jew:


164 posted on 01/16/2005 6:01:46 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: Sam Cree; snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; Valin; msdrby
Being 1/4 Irish, and some Scot, I figure I'm allowed to make rude remarks on this subject:-)

The old boy from Devon, sometimes known as Uncle Frank, could have said something along the lines of "To my relatives and their decendents, I bequeath my red hair and beard, and a love of boats and edged weaponry."

Red beard...

A love of boats...

and edged weaponry...

165 posted on 01/16/2005 6:03:47 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Have sliderule, will calculate.)
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To: xroadie

See #106


166 posted on 01/16/2005 6:08:54 PM PST by elfman2
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To: avitot

I wasn't aware of Grace Kelly's German maternal line. Thanks.


167 posted on 01/16/2005 6:15:00 PM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Red Sea Swimmer
That Tassie Devil needs some valium...

He always has.


168 posted on 01/16/2005 6:22:57 PM PST by Lady Jag (All I want is a kind word, a warm bed, and unlimited power)
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To: TheLionessRN

I heard Ian Paisley preach on a Web site a week ago. His speech pattern was neither typically British or Irish, and had more than a hint of Appalachia in it. Hard "r"'s, dipthongs, and other hints of the Eastern mountains of the United States. OTOH, Dolly Parton has expressed her feelings of kinship with the Ulster folks.


169 posted on 01/16/2005 6:24:05 PM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Lady Jag

Gene Simmons would be jealous of that tongue. Tassie devils are atually very cute in real life. They are misnamed, a bit like Iceland is.


170 posted on 01/16/2005 6:31:25 PM PST by Red Sea Swimmer (Tisha5765Bav)
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To: Wallace T.

Is a "dipthong" a type of footwear you dip in the water when at the beach ?


171 posted on 01/16/2005 6:33:02 PM PST by Red Sea Swimmer (Tisha5765Bav)
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To: TheLionessRN

"Where are all the redheaded men out there? I know there have to be famous handsome men with red hair but I can't think of any."


How about Bozo?


173 posted on 01/16/2005 6:47:37 PM PST by MoochPooch (A righteous person worries about his or her behavior, an extremist about everyone else's.)
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To: muir_redwoods

"Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, Leonardo DaVinci (yes, an Italian with red hair, rumored to be the most beautiful man in Florence in his youth), George Bernard Shaw and, I believe, Robert E Lee all had red hair."


What about Danny Kaye?


174 posted on 01/16/2005 6:50:48 PM PST by MoochPooch (A righteous person worries about his or her behavior, an extremist about everyone else's.)
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To: MoochPooch

Oh, I forgot.

The biblical King David was famously red-headed. (I think so was Esau -- maybe this explains the Neanderthal connection.)


175 posted on 01/16/2005 6:59:19 PM PST by MoochPooch (A righteous person worries about his or her behavior, an extremist about everyone else's.)
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To: angcat

Yes! Eric Stoltz! He is not a bad looking man and he is redheaded!


176 posted on 01/16/2005 6:59:54 PM PST by TheLionessRN
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To: IGBT

Redhead bump.


177 posted on 01/16/2005 7:02:37 PM PST by Ciexyz (I use the term Blue Cities, not Blue States. PA is red except for Philly, Pgh & Erie)
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To: Red Sea Swimmer
I always get Iceland and Greenland mixed up. What's with that? Did Neanderthals name 'em?

Right, Tasmanian Devils are cute. They are so cute they'll euthanize your cat for you by biting through its skull. Tell me another one why don't you?



178 posted on 01/16/2005 7:03:16 PM PST by Lady Jag (All I want is a kind word, a warm bed, and unlimited power)
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To: Professional Engineer

Is that your helmet?


179 posted on 01/16/2005 7:04:16 PM PST by Lady Jag (All I want is a kind word, a warm bed, and unlimited power)
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To: Lady Jag

I must have met the cute cousins of the species on my visit to Van Diemens Land.


180 posted on 01/16/2005 7:04:59 PM PST by Red Sea Swimmer (Tisha5765Bav)
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