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TERRI SCHINDLER SCHIAVO CALLING ALL FREEPERS Pt2 Disabled FL woman given Death Sentence by FL Courts
09-21-03 | pc93

Posted on 09/21/2003 12:13:53 PM PDT by pc93

Terri's Call to Action Part 1 is over 5000 posts. If you don't want to get caught up to speed at Part 1:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/971896/posts?q=1&&page=5167#5167

Simply visit Terri's official web site at:

http://www.terrisfight.org

There are contact numbers at her web site for her core media team, legislators, media and for press updates.

See flash movies of Terri interacting with her mother, responding to a physician and see for yourself that she's not in PVS "persistant vegetative state").

In addition to access a text file with a lot of information see:

http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/FedCourtDktCaseNo8_03-cv-1860-T-26TGW.txt

If you want to join Terri's fight, it's important for us to CONTACT BUREAUCRATS, THE MEDIA and also your friends and family. It's up to you how you choose to Help Terri.

Pinellas Pasco Judge Greer set October 15, 2003 at 2:00 p.m. for her feeding tube to be removed. There's something wrong with Florida's exit protocols and the way the courts handle new information re: criminality (misrepresentation, attempted murder, etc.) affecting a case. There was no living will, only the assertion of a very suspect, so-called husband, his brother, etc. that Terri would not want to live on life support. Terri is not on life support, she is not comatose or PVS and she is not living "artificially". She does get sustenance from a feeding tube but only because she has been denied rehabilitation by her so-called husband after he won a malpratice lawsuit three years after her collapse (cause unknown but probably due to strangulation or physical abuse, or both) which is why Terri needs an army of supporters to spread her story from coast to coast. Terri has retained rights that are being sidestepped because she is disabled and has been denied rehabilitation! The technologies of rehabilitation have greatly improved exponentially yet Judge Greer has not let Terri have a chance to learn to eat or to be able to learn to speak/communicate again. Also new information bearing on the case which shows criminality on husband's side has not been considered by the 2nd District Court of Appeals who handed down Mandate for termination of Terri's feeding based upon testimony of criminal husband and brother as above stated. Who is next?

Let's make a difference! Thank you for your efforts.


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To: Pegita
Your prayers are so beautiful...are you clergy?
2,281 posted on 10/14/2003 12:26:51 PM PDT by sfRummygirl (SAVE TERRI SHINDLER SCHIAVO...www.terrisfight.org)
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To: iowamomforfreedom; All
MATTERS OF LIFE AND DEATH
Terri Schiavo wants to live
Family reveals secret therapy sessions held for brain-disabled woman scheduled to die



http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35077
Posted: October 14, 2003
2:50 p.m. Eastern


By Sarah Foster
© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

Terri Schindler-Schiavo does not want to die. She would like to go home. And she tried to convey this to her father in no uncertain terms by sitting bolt upright and trying to get out of her chair when told she might be killed, her family has revealed.

The stunning news was released at noon Eastern today by Terri's father, Robert Schindler, at the 'round-the-clock vigil outside the Woodside Hospice facility in Pinellas Park, Fla., where his daughter's court-ordered death by starvation is scheduled to begin tomorrow at 2 p.m. Eastern. At that time, her husband and legal guardian Michael Schiavo is scheduled to give the order to disconnect the 39-year-old brain-disabled woman's feeding tube that has provided her with sustenance for the past 13 years.

In an interview a few hours earlier, Schindler described the incident to WorldNetDaily. He said he was holding a cell phone to Terri's ear as she listened intently to the speaker, propped in her jerry-chair at about a 30-degree angle. Suddenly she sat up straight and tried to get out of her chair, despite her weak legs and muscles that were slack from lack of exercise.

His daughter's response stunned Schindler, who grabbed the phone and asked, "My God, what did you tell her?"

The speaker said he had warned, "If you don't get up and get out of there, you're going to die there."

"He was ecstatic when I told him what Terri had tried to do," Schindler said.

And so was Schindler. It was part of a covert rehabilitation program the desperate father and Galaxy Wave Group – a therapeutic company on the cutting-edge of medical technology – devised for Terri in a bold attempt to bring her to a point of recovery where even Florida judges would realize they could not allow her to be starved.

Beginning in late November last year and continuing until the end of February, Terri received daily, hour-long therapy sessions by telephone with company president Dr. Joe Champion or one of his therapists.

While Schindler held the phone to his daughter's ear, they would talk with her, giving her instructions and tasks: move your left arm, move your hand, and so on.

"We started right around Thanksgiving," Schindler recalled. "The first day Dr. Champion listened to the sounds she was making and said he felt it wouldn't be long before she was talking. That was the objective."

The therapy sessions lasted through February, but were interrupted by bouts of flu and other illnesses. One particularly severe illness caused her to relapse.

The "tough love" of telling Terri what lies in store for her was tried several times to stimulate her to work hard.

In a signed affidavit read at the press conference Champion described one of the sessions.

"In December of 2002, I confronted Ms. Schindler with the 'truth' and told her that unless she helped me in returning her from the comatose state that she was in that she was going to die a horrid death," he wrote. "I explained in detail that they would remove the single tube that was providing her nutrition and she would slowly die of starvation. At this point, it was reported by her father that she sat up in bed and became teary eyed."

That Terri understands her own mortality and reacts so strongly when threatened runs counter to the official notion that she is oblivious to her surroundings and will not even know she is being dehydrated and starved to death.

Shiavo's attorney, George Felos, a well-known "right-to-die" advocate, said the claims of improvement that the Schindlers have been making in the last few weeks are impossible.

"There is no cognition, no consciousness," he told the Tampa Tribune.

He further explained why no effort was made to spoon-feed her.

"She simply does not have the ability to take food or water by mouth," he said. "If they tried that, she would aspirate it and suffer an infection that would likely prove fatal."

To corroborate Schindler's account and for further details, WorldNetDaily contacted the person who worked with Terri via telephone. He agreed to be interviewed, but requested his name not be used.

According to "Mr. Smith," Terri was able to move her hand, her arm, her leg on command. She couldn't speak, but she followed instructions.

"The bottom line is she is not vegetative, the way the husband and the side the court has gone with want to portray her," Smith said. "She definitely has some brain damage and severe problems, but she is not a vegetable."

"The problem for Terri is that she can do things, but not on a consistent basis. One day she couldn't, another day she couldn't or wouldn't," he explained. "I can't tell you the reasons, but Terri has her good days and bad days. On a good day she can respond appropriately with no problems. She understands."

Some days are extremely good – like the day she tried to get out of her chair.

"The way Bob [Schindler] described it to you is exactly correct," Smith said. "She just about got out of that chair."

As he tells it: "I was telling her she has to work with us. I couldn't tell you my exact words now; it's been a year. But I was explaining to her that she needed to work with me, that if we could get her to the point to where she could prove to people that she understood, she could get out of there and go home with her parents. I was explaining to her that she had to work with us and respond or they were going to let her die. That's when she tried to get out of the chair."

Smith said they stopped the sessions when he had to leave the area for a couple of months and were not resumed on his return.

It is clear to Schindler that the therapy was working, but until now he has not wanted to talk about it. He could not even bring it up in court as evidence, because it possibly violated a court order.

The Schindlers had reason to suspect that their efforts to help Terri would not be appreciated and that Schiavo might even obtain a court order banning them from her room, as he had done in the past. At one point, he banned Terri's brother and sister from her room for five months simply because they asked the nurse to try and give her some pudding. But there were other instances.

At the initial trial in January 2000, the Schindlers' attorney at the time, Pamela Campbell, introduced into evidence a video of Terri made by a friend of her sister, Suzanne Schindler. It was shown on television news, and three doctors who saw it contacted Robert Schindler saying that they did not believe his daughter was in a persistent vegetative state, but that they wanted to examine her to be sure.

Schindler said he took each of them into her room, and they tested her reactions to stimuli. They found she was definitely not in a persistent vegetative state, that she was cognizant and could recognize her family, because when she saw members of her family she would smile and showed signs of recognition.

All three said they believed Terri had the ability to swallow because she was not drooling. The affidavits were sent to probate Judge George Greer requesting him to allow a swallowing test, which he summarily denied.

Greer accepted the affidavits but did not change his mind.

Schiavo was furious that a video had been made of Terri and doctors had been taken to visit her. In response to his demands, Greer issued an order banning further videotaping and any still photography, and a list of "approved" visitors was drawn up. The list was relatively long – over 40 names – but there was a catch. Visitors could only see Terri if accompanied by a family member. This meant even Terri's priest, Monsignor Thaddeus Malanowski, did not have normal access to her.

Schiavo and attorney Felos decided that greater controls were needed. In April 2000, they moved Terri surreptitiously from the nursing home that had been her home for six years to the Hospice of the Florida Sun Coast, a place intended for people in the last stages of an illness.

Regulations generally prohibit a hospice from taking a patient who is not terminally ill and expected to live longer than six months to a year. But Felos was chairman of the board of directors of the hospice and was able to arrange for her admission. He resigned his position shortly thereafter.

A year later, in April 2001, her death by dehydration was ordered to begin, and the day her feeding was stopped her brother and sister came by with a spoon and a cup of pudding, asking a nurse to try to feed her by mouth. The nurse refused and reported the request to others. When Schiavo found out he demanded that Bobby and Suzanne be removed from the list of approved visitors, and Greer rubberstamped his request.

"We were trying to play by the rules," Bobby told WorldNetDaily. "But that didn't matter. We were kicked off the list anyway."

Terri was 60 hours without food or water before a different judge issued an emergency stay because new evidence had come to light, and her feeding was resumed.

The evidence was strong enough for a stay, but not strong enough to end Schiavo's efforts. A series of appeals followed, and in November 2001, the 2nd District Court of Appeals ordered an evidentiary hearing held in the fall of 2002.

Five months following their banishment from the Hospice, Bobby and Suzanne Schindler had their visiting rights restored, but only on condition that they not attempt any spoon-feeding.

"I don't want anyone trying to feed that girl," Greer thundered.

Greer did not specifically placed audio-taping and therapy-by-telephone on the list of banned activities, but experience had taught the Schindler family that it was best to keep such efforts to themselves rather than run the risk of angering Schiavo and having their visiting rights suspended.

As WorldNetDaily reported, the Schindlers have been fighting with their son-in-law for 10 years over the lack of care and therapy Schiavo provided for their daughter, who suffered massive brain damage when she collapsed at her home 13 years ago under mysterious circumstances at the age of 26.

The contentious family dispute escalated into a major euthanasia battle in May 1998, when Schiavo petitioned the Florida courts for permission to end his wife's life by disconnecting her feeding tube, insisting she is in a "persistent vegetative state" and that in casual conversations she had told him she would not want to be kept alive "artificially." Although Terri breathes on her on and maintains her own blood pressure, she requires a simple tube into her abdomen to her stomach for nourishment and hydration.

Although Terri's parents and siblings have claimed for years that she recognizes them and tries to talk, and over a dozen prominent doctors and therapists have stated under oath that she is not in a persistent vegetative state and with therapy could be rehabilitated, a handful of doctors have testified she is "vegetative." They claim her expressions and vocalizations are simply reflex actions and she will never regain consciousness. Despite a scarcity of expert testimony and evidence for Schiavo's position, the Florida courts have consistently sided with him and Felos.

When the seven-member Florida Supreme Court in August turned down an petition by the Schindlers to review the case, the way was clear for Schiavo to order his wife starved to death.

On Sept. 17, Greer, of the Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Court, scheduled Oct. 15 as the day Terri's feeding tube would be removed.

Operation Rescue founder Randall Terry is coordinating the vigil. He advises anyone who wants to help Terri to telephone Gov. Jeb Bush and urge him to instruct the Department of Children and Families, which enforces standards of hospice care, to do their own investigation to see if she has been getting proper care and rehabilitation.

"Which we know she has not and will not if they take her tube away," said Terry. "And when they find she has not, then Bush can order them to assume guardianship. They must take the guardianship away from the husband."

Jeb Bush's e-mail is jeb@jeb.org. His telephone is (850) 488-4441.

Legal documents and information on Terri's fight for life are posted on the family's website.

2,282 posted on 10/14/2003 12:27:23 PM PDT by Velveeta (PROOF!!!!! TERRI SCHIAVO WANTS TO LIVE!!!!)
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To: iowamomforfreedom


Call Jeb's Office at 850-488-4441 and ask to speak to Lauren O'Conner (Aide to Governor Bush).
Let her know that by Jeb's own admission in his Amicus Memorandum that Terri is being denied due process.
Let her know that Jeb as Governor has an obligation to step in and bring a halt to Terri's execution. Do not stop calling.

Please spread the message!

P.S. Please do the same asking to speak to Christa Calamas.

1. MICHAEL SCHIAVO HAS FAILED TO PROVIDE REHABILITATIVE SERVICES FOR TERRY
SCHIAVO.

2. TERRY SCHIAVO DID NOT HAVE LEGAL REPRESENTATION IN COURT WHILE THE
PROCEEDINGS WERE GOING ON. HER PARENTS HAD LEGAL REPRESENTATION, HER HUSBAND
HAD LEGAL REPRESENTATION BUT TERRY DID NOT.

3. THE BASIS OF REMOVAL OF THE FEEDING TUBE WAS SOLELY ON THE
RECOMMENDATION OF THE PHYSICIAN APPOINTED BY THE COURT. HOWEVER, PHYSICIANS
DO NOT HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE OR EXPERTISE TO DIAGNOSE REHABILITATIVE PROBLEMS
NOR DO MANY OF THEM EVEN UNDERSTAND HANDICAPPED CONDITIONS. AT NO TIME WAS A
REHABILITATIVE TEAM APPOINTED TO DIAGNOSE OR ASSESS TERRI'S SITUATION.

4. LEGAL REPRESENTATION SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE HUSBAND AND AWARDED TO
THE STATE OF FLORIDA OR A THIRD PARTY.

5. ALL LEGAL PROCEEDINGS SHOULD BE SQUASHED AND RENDERED NULL AND VOID.
2,283 posted on 10/14/2003 12:34:24 PM PDT by sfRummygirl (SAVE TERRI SHINDLER SCHIAVO...www.terrisfight.org)
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To: sfRummygirl
bttt
2,284 posted on 10/14/2003 12:35:05 PM PDT by sfRummygirl (SAVE TERRI SHINDLER SCHIAVO...www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Tammy8
I agree....Jeb, if you aren't going to even light a candle for her.....
2,285 posted on 10/14/2003 12:35:43 PM PDT by sfRummygirl (SAVE TERRI SHINDLER SCHIAVO...www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Velveeta
Wonderful! Thank you for posting this Velvetta!
2,286 posted on 10/14/2003 12:37:36 PM PDT by iowamomforfreedom (Why is it illegal to starve an animal but not a human being?)
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To: Velveeta
"urge him to instruct the Dept. of Children and Families, wich enforces standards of hospice care, to do thier own investigation"

GGGGGGGGGGGGRRRrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!! She shouldn't even be in hospice care in the 1st place! SHE'S NOT TERMINALLY ILL!!! (but if it they can help, let them)

IS EVERONE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDUUUUUUUUUHHHHHH JUDICIAL SYSTEM A COMPLETE, UTTER, EFN, MORON?!!!!

Sorry for the screaming rant but this is just unfreakinbeleivable. Can they file in another State to help Terri, since the entire state of Floriduh is brain dead? The entire Floriduh judicial system is in a "persistent vegatative state" , we should cut off their food and water!

2,287 posted on 10/14/2003 1:11:12 PM PDT by fly_so_free (Never underestimate the treachery of the democratic party. Save the USA-Vote a democrat out of offic)
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To: fly_so_free
You are soooooo right!

This is why people believe she is really in a coma and Michael is being "compassionate". When I try to tell people about all of this incompetence and collusion and lying and corruption, it is just too unbelievable to them. No way could this really be happening. The courts wouldn't allow it.

yes, unfreakingbelievable.
2,288 posted on 10/14/2003 1:19:49 PM PDT by iowamomforfreedom (Why is it illegal to starve an animal but not a human being?)
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To: sfRummygirl
Thanks for such a kind thought, sfRummygirl ... but, no ... a wayward sinner, like the rest, saved by the Grace of God ... + continued prayer for Terri ...
2,289 posted on 10/14/2003 1:44:24 PM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: Pegita
Now the Schindlers can only visit Terri if they are accompanied by Michael - because of the new evidence and the videotape that Bob released at the news conference today.
CRUEL
2,290 posted on 10/14/2003 2:06:50 PM PDT by yesnettv (We need to decide to save Terri's life. I did.)
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To: pbmaltzman
"I don't understand why Terry's parents can't be made her legal guardians. I haven't read the whole story, but it seems to me that if the man wants so badly to be her "ex-husband," why can't he get a divorce but give up custody to her parents"

IMHO, I think the creep put her in the condition she is in today, and is sorely afraid she will get better and tell the world what a lowlife, scumsucking a**hole he really is!
2,291 posted on 10/14/2003 2:12:45 PM PDT by hunyb
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To: Ethan_Allen
Jeb Bush's respect for the independence of the courts and the law as it has unfolded, strikes me as honorable as Adolf Eichmann's respect for his laws and the orders he was just following.
2,292 posted on 10/14/2003 2:14:44 PM PDT by Graymatter
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To: yesnettv
Michael's cruelty is on display for the world to see ... perhaps the mother of his children will have a change of heart and leave ... may the Lord protect her and the children ... born and yet to be born. The Schindlers have sacrificed all for their child ... I pray Michael has nothing he desires and that the Schindlers have everything they desire, in the name of Jesus ...

What a stark picture of the forces of good and evil ... both wanting the same child ... only one wishes death, the other wishes life. Heavenly Father, prevail here, I pray, that Terri would live ... in the name of Jesus, Amen ...

2,293 posted on 10/14/2003 2:21:30 PM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: hunyb
Of all the words written about this, hunyb ... your opinion is the only one that makes any sense whatsoever ... that's also my thought ...
2,294 posted on 10/14/2003 2:25:13 PM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: yesnettv
I've also tried contacting AG Ashcroft. The only email I could find was AskDOJ@usdoj.gov. Anyone got a better addy?

His phone # is 202-514-2001 or 202-353-1555 acc to the website http://www.usdoj.gov/contact-us.html
2,295 posted on 10/14/2003 2:30:54 PM PDT by Graymatter
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To: Pegita
Everybody donate!
We need bigger high power attorneys and more attorneys and Pat needs to get paid something!
2,296 posted on 10/14/2003 2:36:30 PM PDT by yesnettv (We need to decide to save Terri's life. I did.)
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To: yesnettv
Bob Schindler on Hannity again tonite!
Also watch www.terrisfight.org for the new video which caused the Schindlers to have their visitation of Terri curtailed.
2,297 posted on 10/14/2003 2:58:30 PM PDT by yesnettv (We need to decide to save Terri's life. I did.)
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To: Simcha7
Here's my question...Why Does her husband want her DEAD?

Because he wants to keep what remains of the 1 million + malpractice settlement that they won and run off and marry the woman to whom he fathered two children in the last 10 years.

2,298 posted on 10/14/2003 3:05:29 PM PDT by peteram
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To: Pegita
I have .mov file of Terri if there is a way to get it out or to host please let me know.
2,299 posted on 10/14/2003 3:09:48 PM PDT by pc93 (A good site to visit is http://www.terrisfight.org . Oct. 15th 2pm death order must be stopped)
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To: pc93; TheMom
Send me a FReep mail.

Or to:

me@tomeaker.com

2,300 posted on 10/14/2003 3:11:54 PM PDT by Eaker (Amateurs built the Ark, professionals built the Titanic.............hmmmmmmmmm ;<)
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