TERRI SCHINDLER SCHIAVO CALLING ALL FREEPERS Pt2 Disabled FL woman given Death Sentence by FL Courts

09-21-03 | pc93

[pc93]

Terri's Call to Action Part 1 is over 5000 posts. If you don't want to get caught up to speed at Part 1:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/971896/posts?q=1&&page=5167#5167

Simply visit Terri's official web site at:

http://www.terrisfight.org

There are contact numbers at her web site for her core media team, legislators, media and for press updates.

See flash movies of Terri interacting with her mother, responding to a physician and see for yourself that she's not in PVS "persistant vegetative state").

In addition to access a text file with a lot of information see:

http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/FedCourtDktCaseNo8_03-cv-1860-T-26TGW.txt

If you want to join Terri's fight, it's important for us to CONTACT BUREAUCRATS, THE MEDIA and also your friends and family. It's up to you how you choose to Help Terri.

Pinellas Pasco Judge Greer set October 15, 2003 at 2:00 p.m. for her feeding tube to be removed. There's something wrong with Florida's exit protocols and the way the courts handle new information re: criminality (misrepresentation, attempted murder, etc.) affecting a case. There was no living will, only the assertion of a very suspect, so-called husband, his brother, etc. that Terri would not want to live on life support. Terri is not on life support, she is not comatose or PVS and she is not living "artificially". She does get sustenance from a feeding tube but only because she has been denied rehabilitation by her so-called husband after he won a malpratice lawsuit three years after her collapse (cause unknown but probably due to strangulation or physical abuse, or both) which is why Terri needs an army of supporters to spread her story from coast to coast. Terri has retained rights that are being sidestepped because she is disabled and has been denied rehabilitation! The technologies of rehabilitation have greatly improved exponentially yet Judge Greer has not let Terri have a chance to learn to eat or to be able to learn to speak/communicate again. Also new information bearing on the case which shows criminality on husband's side has not been considered by the 2nd District Court of Appeals who handed down Mandate for termination of Terri's feeding based upon testimony of criminal husband and brother as above stated. Who is next?

Let's make a difference! Thank you for your efforts.

[GWB and GOP Man]

I don't disagree with your statement. BUT, I think one...

A) must be pro-life and support pro life candidates.

or

B) must still vote for pro life political candidates even if they are not pro life.

...in order to be considered a true conservative.

There is no such animal as a Pro Choice Conservative in my opinion.

One can be a Pro Choice Moderate but not a Pro Choice Conservative.

AAAAHHHHHnolt. Is a pro choice moderate because he is a social liberal and a fiscal conservative. What do you think?

[sfRummygirl]

Yes, I know...this is so disgusting, that I believe many people will leave the party. The ones with heart beats, anyway.

[sfRummygirl]

Oh, I don't have the stormin' in me right now....I am beat, and really must go to church tomorrow, that's for sure....I am going to try to fast tomorrow, can't do it for more than one day though, or I pass out.....
I promise to make you laugh again, though.

[sfRummygirl]

I vote for Floriduh voter to be the leader...:-)

[sfRummygirl]

I need sleep...will check in later.....

[MarMema]

if you position this specific fight as a conservative versus liberal issue

It is not a conservative versus liberal issue. Wesley Smith has fought this tide far more than the rest of us, and is a self-proclaimed liberal. He says so in his book, Forced Exit.

[Ethan_Allen]

" Didn't that "woman" (we use that word too loosely these days) say she wished Hugh Finn would die?"

"if you position this specific fight as a conservative versus liberal issue"

"It is not a conservative versus liberal issue. Wesley Smith has fought this tide far more than the rest of us, and is a self-proclaimed liberal. He says so in his book, Forced Exit."

I honestly don't remember a lot of details about "her". She just hangs out there in my memory as one cold ____. Once again, I am humbled by the Finn's asking for her conversion, right after they asked for the repose of Hugh's soul. As the article MarMema linked to, "Under the Heaven Tree", pointed out, even Paul the apostle said, "I am the chief of the sinners", and since Jesus is the only Lawgiver, and the only Judge, we are not to judge. Furthermore, if we don't forgive, we will not be forgiven. HOWEVER, we are also to be discerning, so maybe we should concentrate not on attacking persons, or their political affiliation, etc., but their deeds.

I'm a partial preteristarchive. I believe the book of Revelation was written for the first century book. I believe most of it was fulfilled, EXCEPT for Rev. 20:7-10. I could be wrong, but I feel strongly that is where we are today. Look at the message a lot of the Church is preaching today. They have departed from the faith; the deception. Christians are being persecuted all over the world. The Bible says "fire came down from heaven and devoured them". You will want to read about the "beloved city" (IMO) in Galatians 4:19-31 (I think).

Then here: Jer 23:29 [Is] not my word like as a fire? saith the LORD; and like a hammer [that] breaketh the rock in pieces?
http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Jer/23/29.html

[I was just going to just post the above link and let you mosey around it if you wanted to, and I wish you would, because it gives the progression of the above thought, but I thought the next few words were too relevant, and the point where I left off gave me the chuckles. Don't ever let it be said God doesn't have a sense of humour (spelling for you Country Outrage!). Sometimes it's so dry you hardly pick up on it, like when he's talking about Hiram, king of Tyre, of the Tribe of Dan, BTW, 'loving David', so he proceeds to help Solomon build his temple. He loved David so much, he was very put out when Solomon didn't give him enough land. It 'didn't go out enough for him' I suppose. Typical for Dan. They don't want much land, all they want is what joins them; hence the Wildlands Project.]

Jer 23:30 Therefore, behold, I [am] against the prophets, saith the LORD, that steal my words every one from his neighbour.

Jer 23:31 Behold, I [am] against the prophets, saith the LORD, that use their tongues, and say, He saith.

Jer 23:32 Behold, I [am] against them that prophesy false dreams, saith the LORD, and do tell them, and cause my people to err by their lies, and by their lightness; yet I sent them not, nor commanded them: therefore they shall not profit this people at all, saith the LORD.

Jer 23:33 And when this people, or the prophet, or a priest, shall ask thee, saying, What [is] the burden of the LORD? thou shalt then say unto them, WHAT BURDEN? I WILL EVEN FORSAKE YOU, SAITH THE LORD. [ the rest http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Jer/Jer023.html#29 ]

I believe Christians are to be that devouring fire. That's why folks like Tim LaHaye are so dangerous. [I'm beginning to think I've been hacked, or is google gone? I cannot for the life of me get a search engine and I have rebooted. If you search 'fecundating cross and crown LaHaye', hopefully you will see what I mean.]

End of bible study. It goes back to my analogy to the jar with two substances in it, good and evil, [or those who God will call 'my people' and those He will call 'NOT my people']. The jar has been shaken, and the two substances are settling out. Like oil and water, like clay and iron, they do not mix. So we should probably not attack the person, but the deed. God DOES wish for ALL to be saved. It's just so hard to remember that in the presence of such evil.

[Ethan_Allen]

The Bible says "fire came down from heaven and devoured them".

Does not refer to Christians; refers to 'Gog and Magog'

[Hope you can figure out who they are. I did.]

[tutstar]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/999662/posts?page=13#13

could you give this one a bumP??

[Ethan_Allen]

ABSOLUTELY!!!! THANKS, GUYS!!!!


TO ALL:

PLEASE READ AND KEEP BUMPED ALL DAY!


FLASH CAMPAIGN - FOR TERRI SCHIAVO - PREPARE FOR MONDAY
Posted on 10/11/2003 8:17 PM PDT by conservative111

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/999662/posts?page=13#13

[Ethan_Allen]

FLASH CAMPAIGN - FOR TERRI SCHIAVO - PREPARE FOR MONDAY
Posted on 10/11/2003 8:17 PM PDT by conservative111


URGENT!!FLASH CAMPAIGN PLANNED FOR THIS MONDAY!!!EMAIL FAX AND PHONE CAMPAIGN -FAX GOVERNOR BUSH AND YOUR OTHER REPRESENTATIVES, SO THEY HAVE TO KNOW!!! FLASH ACTION ALERT CALL TO ACTION FOR THIS MONDAY!!!!!!!!!!!


Please take 1 or all of the following actions:

Scedule a time for Monday during the hours of 8 to 5 PM that you can either e-mail, fax or phone the following officials. If you can do all of the actions, do so.

YOU WILL BE AMAZED AT WHAT AN ORGANIZED GROUP ACTION CAN DO!!!

Be sure to be courteous in your tone, whether it is email, fax or phone. You want them to listen.

MESSAGE:

1. ASK THAT THEY INTERVENE IN THE TERRI SCHIAVO SITUATION. Ask them to give Terri a STAY of EXECUTION.

2. ADVISE THEM THAT YOU KNOW THAT MEDICAL EXPERTS HAVE STATED THAT TERRI IS NOT IN A PERSISTENT VEGETATIVE STATE.

3. ASK TO HAVE LAZARRA POSTPONE REMOVAL OF THE TUBE UNTIL TERRI IS GIVEN THERAPY TRAINING THAT WOULD ENABLE HER TO BE SPOON FED.

4. ASK FOR A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION

CONTACTS:

Jeb PH 850-488-7146 PH 850-488-4441 FX 850-488-9810

Sen graham PH813-224-2476 PH202-224-3041 FX202-224-2237

Sen Nelson PH850-942-8415 PH202-224-5274 FX850-942-8450

Rep M Bilirakis PH727-441-3721 PH202-225-5755 FX202-225-4085 FX727-442-8180

C.W.Bill Young PH727-893-3191 PH202-225-9764 FX202-225-9764

David Demers PH727-582-7882 FX727-582-7210 (Chief Judge 6th crct)

EMAILS: jeb@jeb.org, bob_graham@graham.senate.gov,ggreer@co.pinellas.fl.us, ddemers@co.pinellas.fl.us * EMAIL OF MEDIA: cvanwey@ix.netcom.com, drudge@drudgereport.com, email@tropicwaveradio.net, jeff.mcdonald@uniontrib.com, krugman@nytimes.com, letters@washpost.com, liberties@nytimes.com, ltimmerman@seattletimes.com, matierandross@sfchronicle.com, Oreilly@foxnews.com, news@worldnetdaily.com, levesque@sptimes.com, Letters@sptimes.com, dsommer@tampatrib.com, tribletters@tampatrib.com, news@970wfla.com, NOWWeb@thirteen.org,health@mpt.org,feedback@tbo.com, kmarma@aarp.org, media@aarp.org, david@david-sadler.org

Emails that you have to fill out a form for: For these, I take the same email pretty much, copy it and paste it to each different web-sites form. Volume volume volume. Let them know that Terri is not in a coma, and is not in a vegetative state.

CBS News Chicago: select reporter by name of: Jim Mullen (he is a quadraplegic) http://cbs2chicago.com/feedback/

CBS 60 Minutes - at the bottom of their page, click on comments and then fill out the form.Ask them to do an investigation.(They have done stories on Florida Hospice Illegal Euthanasia before) http://www.cbsnews.com


1 posted on 10/11/2003 8:17 PM PDT by conservative111


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/999662/posts?page=13#13

[Ethan_Allen]

BUMP! #1831

[cyn]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/998432/posts

last info on that thread is that PrepareToLeave will be at the hospice, perhaps w/others, at NOON TODAY (SUNDAY) in a sort of prayer vigil / protest for Terri. If that is true, that info should be posted to new thread

Has Terri's family planned such a thing themselves? I see no mention of it on their Terri website. But in catching up on previous threads, I see they are aware of FR via RadioFR and our ongoing threads.

[Ethan_Allen]

BUMP! #1831

[syriacus]

Thanks for the link to the other thread, Ethan_Allen!

[Ethan_Allen]

I haven't had my coffee yet. Can't think through what cyn is saying above! Wouldja have a look please?

[syriacus]

Does former Florida State Supreme Court Chief Justice Gerald Kogan have connections with any of our "bad actors"?

Though a search of Kogan and Felos does not bring up a connection, Felos was involved in the Browning Case and Kogan was, too.

Also, Gerald Kogan, who likes physician assisted suicide, now heads the Alliance for Ethical Government in Miami.

UM Law Welcomes Justice Kogan as Alliance President

Defining Tomorrow's World: ACLU Honors Kogan With Poynter Award

Annual ACLU banquet honors Justice Kogan

as Chief Justice of the Florida Supreme Court, Kogan dissented from the majority decision in Krischer v. McIver, the Florida test case on physician assistance in death brought by the ACLU

Few find clear-cut answers in assisted suicide debate ,

[snip]Like many Hemlock advocates, Robert Rivas sees no distinction between physician-assisted death and a doctor's legal right to cut off a dying patient's life support upon the family's consent.[snip

Retired Supreme Court Justice Gerald Kogan... agrees.

"The court should have been bolder," said Kogan. "We allow doctors to disconnect feeding tubes and respirators. It makes no sense to say there's a difference [from physician assisted suicide]. In both cases, the doctor is assisting in the patient's death."

[syriacus]

I'm not sure what you mean.

At http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/998432/posts?page=52 Cyn posts about rallying outside the hospice at Noon today.

Preparetoleave is on her way home.

[syriacus]

What is Sanders Sauls doing nowdays?

This is how Sauls treated his former nanny, Ruby Thomas

Judge in Case That Gore Lost Had Run-Ins With Justices (Sauls Background Info)

When Ms. Thomas was recently hospitalized, she said, Judge Sauls went to the hospital each morning, noon and night to help feed her, carefully cutting her food and feeding her. "There's a true love there between them," Mrs. Sauls said today.

[MarMema]

Alliance for ethical government.....now doesn't that fit ever so nicely into their play on words to make things sound like they want them to.

What does Kogan have to do with Terri? I must have missed it..