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Michigan: Hospitals require workers be smoke-free (More hard news for smokers)
woodtv.com ^ | Sep 28, 2006

Posted on 09/30/2006 8:41:28 AM PDT by SheLion

GRAND RAPIDS -- Spectrum Health and Saint Mary's Health Care will require all their employees to not use tobacco at any time during their work shift beginning January 1.

The staffs of both hospitals will need to arrive without smelling of smoke, and they can't use any tobacco products until they leave hospital property after their shift.

Metro Health is also joining in the Smoke-Free Work Day Every Day campaign.

In 2003, the Grand Rapids hospitals became the first in the country to jointly declare their hospital campuses smoke-free. Today, more than 30 Michigan hospitals have smoke-free campuses.

This takes it a step further.

The three hospitals are working together to help employees quit the habit between now and the first of the year. The hospitals said the main reason for making this decision was to improve patient care.

"Everyday our staff tell patients who use tobacco to quit," said Bill Rietscha, Vice President of Facilities for Spectrum Health. "We can't say that with credibility while smelling of tobacco ourselves."

Tom Karel, the Vice President of Human Resources for Saint Mary's, echoed that. "We have delivered this message to each person who walks in a door at Saint Mary's, and this is the next step in a long term effort to ensure the health of our employees, patients, visitors and our entire community."

Among the other reasons the hospitals cited were the health risks to their employees and the reduced productivity related to smoking.

Not everyone is thrilled with the plan. Midge Birdsall has worked in health care for more than 30 years. She knows smoking isn't good for her, but she said the decision to quit should be hers and hers alone.

"I'm not doing something illegal so I have a problem with them telling me how to run my lifestyle when it's not affecting my work," she said. "I'm not sure how they can tell me I can't go off campus on my break. I guess I'll find out January 1."

24 Hour News 8 talked with a local labor law attorney who said the hospitals can fire employees who disobey the rules.

It's a growing trend. In January 2005, KVCC banned smoking for all new full-time employees. Lansing-based Weyco, a company that administers health benefits, also went smoke-free. Several employees left who refused to take a test to determine if they're using tobacco.


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Are smokers tired of being controlled yet? Over a legal product????

1 posted on 09/30/2006 8:41:36 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: Just another Joe; Madame Dufarge; Cantiloper; metesky; Judith Anne; lockjaw02; Mears; CSM; ...

2 posted on 09/30/2006 8:42:18 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: SheLion

What is the position of the hospital with respect to AIDS? Can a doctor or nurse have HIV and still be employed?


3 posted on 09/30/2006 8:47:18 AM PDT by magoo70804
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To: SheLion
Michigan does not have enough problems with the highest unemployment rate in the country, let's make it harder to have jobs. Maybe they should worry about attracting jobs than more regulation.
4 posted on 09/30/2006 8:48:34 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: SheLion

Once they manage to force smokers to quit by way of taxation they'll simply turn their attention to something else.


5 posted on 09/30/2006 8:50:04 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: SheLion

Try requiring workers to be HIV free and watch how fast your ass gets sued.


6 posted on 09/30/2006 8:50:08 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (You can't defeat your enemy unless you are willing to get down in the mud with him.)
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To: SheLion

Fascist alert! Michiganistan moves up on my list of states to avoid. Just behind Mass. and California now, unfortunately I have to go to Boston on business often.

The legacy of decades of Democrat corruption and organized crime control of government in the 'common-wealth' (what a HUGE LIE that term is) of Massholia is awe inspiring. I imagine it's like visiting a Soviet republic at the hight of the Cold War.


7 posted on 09/30/2006 8:50:22 AM PDT by wvobiwan (BOYCOTT NYT, LAT, AP, Reuters, CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, BBC, WaPo, Haaretz, and ALL leftist rags!!!)
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To: nyconse

No kidding.


8 posted on 09/30/2006 8:51:45 AM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: cripplecreek

I hope it's all of the bicycles (the real expensive enthusiast ones). Add to that the cute little tight spandex pants and "Aliens" helmets all of these 'he-men' seem to want to wear when they "commune with nature" (actually, most times in the height of morning or afternoon traffic, it seems).


9 posted on 09/30/2006 8:53:32 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SheLion
Are smokers tired of being controlled yet?

Everybody must be controlled!!

"Everyday our staff tell patients who use tobacco to quit who are overweight to begin a diet and exercise program," said Bill Rietscha, Vice President of Facilities for Spectrum Health. "We can't say that with credibility while smelling of tobacco ourselves when our health care workers are waddling blobs of cellulite."

10 posted on 09/30/2006 8:56:50 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: wvobiwan
Why do the work rules of that a private employer negotiates with its employees have to do with Fascism?

Fascist alert!

11 posted on 09/30/2006 8:57:18 AM PDT by DManA
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To: SheLion
Al-Qaida chief asks nuclear experts to join jihad

Here's another existential threat to worry about while obsessing about health.

12 posted on 09/30/2006 8:57:43 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Gaffer

Over my dead body.


13 posted on 09/30/2006 9:02:18 AM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: DManA

There were negotiations? I didn't think so.

Sure, it's not pure Fascism but I'm not sure it's not something worse. You may think you are exempt because you don't smoke but all an organization has to do is determine there is a behavior you DO partaticipate in that they don't like and you are out on your butt, too.

Because someone has the right to do something doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. That runs both ways.


14 posted on 09/30/2006 9:03:18 AM PDT by L98Fiero (Evil is an exact science)
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To: wvobiwan

There's nothing wrong with Michigan...just stay out of the blue counties. Mainly Wayne, Washtenaw and now, whatever county Grand Rapids is in.

In the case of the Western side of Michigan: The morons have been moving up from Chicago and bringing their Liberal nonsense with them.


15 posted on 09/30/2006 9:06:40 AM PDT by madison10
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To: L98Fiero

Smokefree Michigan uber alles.


16 posted on 09/30/2006 9:07:03 AM PDT by kjo
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To: magoo70804
What is the position of the hospital with respect to AIDS? Can a doctor or nurse have HIV and still be employed?

Thank you!  But I guess you can't "smell" aids, so it isn't an issue.  ~/s

17 posted on 09/30/2006 9:08:47 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: SheLion

Heh! They also skrooed the non smokers with this.

They'll have to work longer shifts to accomodate the lack of personnel.


18 posted on 09/30/2006 9:11:11 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: nyconse
Michigan does not have enough problems with the highest unemployment rate in the country, let's make it harder to have jobs. Maybe they should worry about attracting jobs than more regulation.

This is really ridiculous.  What adult today needs more parental supervision?  Smoking isn't good for us, but it's legal.  These control freaks don't like the smell so they are forbidding their employees from smoking?  Trying to help them quit my butt!

When a smoker goes into a hospital in Maine, they are slapped with the PATCH!  Whether the smoker wants it or not!


19 posted on 09/30/2006 9:11:24 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: SheLion

Unlike Weyco and Scott's at least it is only during their shifts...........they are not being threatedned with being fired for what they do outside of work.

Additionally these are private employers, it is not the government doing it, so while I don't like such a policy, I have to respect their right to make the rules of employee conduct during working hours.


20 posted on 09/30/2006 9:11:46 AM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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